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a better question is how big is your TV?

I progressive scan player will not magically remove compression artificats

Unless Jellygoose's DVD player has a built in "Faroudja" video processor, and then it does indeed remove artifacts in real time from the picture.

-kwag

I have a Faroudja processor in my panasonic player, but I still see artifacts in low detail areas or maybe I'm confusing artifacts with dct blocks?

Yes, me too!. I use the progressive output from the Panasonic into a Samsung 32" HDTV, and I can see DCT blocks even on DVDs :lol:

Edit: I mean I use "Component" output to the HDTV :roll:

-kwag

Yup. Funny you should mention that. In some ways HDTV is bad because combined with a good progressive player you even see flaws in real DVDs and it enhances those on our compressed KVCDs.

On another note a brief story from last night. I have a 50" widescreen which shows lots of detail and I told my girlfriend I her to watch this KVCD encode of Arlington Road I did to see what she thought about the quality.

Well I put it in (it was a 2CD encode of 117 minutes 704_480 that came out to 79CQ)

About 5 minutes into it she said.. "So when are you going to put your encoded copy in so I can compare?"

I said "This is the encoded and compressed copy!!!". She didn't even notice although my overly critical eyes saw the dct blocks and some banding :D :D :D

I have a Cyberhome ADL-528 Player, and a 74cm regular TV set. We use the metric system, so don't know how many inches...
Here's the script I used:

Code:

## DLL Section ## 

# 

LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\MPEG2Dec3.dll") 

LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\STMedianFilter.dll") 

LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\asharp.dll")

LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\undot.dll")

LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\vsfilter.dll")

LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\blockbuster.dll")

# 



## Defined Variables and Constants ## 

# 

MaxTreshold = 1.55 

scd_trigger = 30 # Scene change trigger value. 

nf =  0 # Current frame. 

# 

#### 



Mpeg2Source("E:\HERR DER RINGE 2\hdr2.d2v") 



Undot()

Limiter() 

asharp(1.5,4)



BilinearResize(352,224,0,0,720,576)

STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0 ) 



MergeChroma(blur(1.55)) 

MergeLuma(blur(0.025))



## Dynamic Linear Adaptive Filtering and Scene Change Detection ## 

# 

# ( Portions from AviSynth's manual ) - This will apply temporalsoften to 

# very static scenes, and apply variable blur on moving scenes. 

# We also assign a variable - and this is why a line break is inserted: 



ScriptClip("nf = YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+ "nf > 2.5 ? asharp( -(fmin((nf/30), 1)), 0 ) : \ 

TemporalSoften(2,7,7,5,2) ") 



# 

# Scene change detection ( kwag ) - If a scene change is detected, we 

# blur heavily. This affects the scene before and the one after the 

# scene change, thus providing a softer transition for the encoder instead 

# of a sharp "spike". 

# If it's not a scene change, then we just blur dynamically, depending on 

# the action. 



ScriptClip("nf > scd_trigger ? asharp( -2,0) : asharp(0,0) ") 



# 

# 

# 

BlockBuster(method="noise", detail_min=1, detail_max=10, variance=0.6, seed=5823 ) 



Letterbox(0,0,14,14)

AddBorders(0, 32, 0, 32) # Depends on situation. Use MovieStacker! 



Limiter() 

VobSub("E:\HERR DER RINGE 2\Neuer Ordner\vts_01_0")



# 

# 

## Functions ### 



function fmin(float f1, float f2) { 

  return (f1<f2) ? f1 : f2 

} 



# 

####

You guys still have to explain to me what a HDTV is... :oops: I'm sure I know it, but don't recognize it by the english term. 8)

High Definition Television. Capable of accepting digital and progressive scan content.

how would I know if I had a HDTV, or my dvd player has a Faroudja processor?

Checkout these forums for tons of info.

www.hometheaterspot.com

www.avsforum.com

@Jellygoose
How did you manage to get such a high CQ value? When I runs ToK prediction the CQ lands somewhere between 4 and 5 8O !!! And how did you fix the subs? I want subs in my encode too but I haven't got a clue on how to pull it off since the movie lies on 2 DVD's... Help me out, please.

u got a cq of 4 or 5 8O I could only get a cq of 0.956, jelly pls do share with us how u got subs.

8O 8O
Yu guys must be doing something wrong then I'm sure. There's no magic or something with the CQ. I used 352x288 resolution, Bilinear Resize, and Letterbox(0,0,16,16). CQ was around 70 as I recall... That was with Minimum Bitrate 0 and Max Bitrate 1900kb/sec I suppose. Also the audio was only at 96kb/sec to save some bits.
Well as for the subs, I used the simple way. :wink:
I ripped both DVDs and made 2 d2v files. After that I extracted the Subs from both DVDs with VobSub, and encoded both parts with Subs seperately. I used ToK to calculate the right CQ. I just used half the factor I usually use, and finally aimed for a slightly larger size for the first CD.
After that I muxed both files seperately and joined the 2 files in TMPGEnc.
:roll:
Simple, but it worked. :D

ah right, I processed ripped vob files through dvd2svcd got it rto extract subs, then I got the avs script and took out the bits for subs and it didn't work for some reason. I have done this before and it has worked in the past but for some reason now its now.

@Jellygoose,
Okay, I'll give it a shot again! With the latest script of course! :D

(This surely got wierd. I mean having to jump back and forth between these two threads. But, I'm to blame :oops: since I posted the same question as you... :? Sorry for that...

No problem, it's hard to read every single thread here... 8)