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kwag 07-21-2003 03:04 AM

CQMatic Suggestion Box
 
Suggestions here.

-kwag

telemike 07-21-2003 06:52 AM

Support for CCE 2.50 pleeez :?

kwag 07-21-2003 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telemike
Support for CCE 2.50 pleeez :?

As soon as it's bullet proof and working flawlessly, you bet :)
( See the CCE and MCE options already there, but grayed out ;) )

-kwag

telemike 07-21-2003 07:01 AM

Cool. I am looking for amore robust way to estimate and use CCE. I amusing Tylo's Robshot/bach program http://home.no.net/tylo/
with dvd2svcd. The Autoit script stuff is buggy at times.

Is there any possible way of making a version of CQmatic into a plugin for DVD2SVCD? That would be cool. One shot program to do it all withsuperior file prediction!!!!!!! :lightbulb:

kwag 07-21-2003 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telemike

Is there any possible way of making a version of CQmatic into a plugin for DVD2SVCD?

Hi telemike,

I don''t think so. I've taken a complete different approach to other tools available. Instead of trying to put many options in the program, I rely on the robustness and flexibility of the encoder. This is the case with TMPEG. For CCE and MCE, I still have to read and learn the capabilities they provide for automation. For MCE and CCE, I'm pretty sure it will be similar to control as TMPEG. The only thing I'm not sure is if I'll be able to do prediction the way I have implemented it now. Right now, I'm controling the time slices completely in TMPEG. That is, I don't use any AviSynth functions at all. No "Sampler()", no SelectRangeEvery(), etc.

Hey :!:, don't expect too much :lol: This is my first real Windows (GUI) program I've ever done :!: ( I'm a U*IX programmer ), so all I've ever done is what I call "Programming behind the scenes". That is, background programs (daemons), low level serial communications, etc. So if CQMatic blows up in your face, I'm not responsible :!: It's free, so if it doesn't work, there's no refund :mrgreen:
Just give the program some time to grow ( a couple of days in KVCD's time frame ;) )

-kwag

NismoSX 07-21-2003 08:26 AM

Option to shutdown computer when finished encoding, please. :)

kwag 07-21-2003 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoSX
Option to shutdown computer when finished encoding, please. :)

Yep, it's already on the list ;)

-kwag

rhino 07-21-2003 08:41 AM

Can you make this option so that you have to explicitly set it each time as with Tok i sometimes forget i have the flag turned on and when I am working at the computer, the machine powers down,

cheers,

kwag 07-21-2003 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhino
Can you make this option so that you have to explicitly set it each time as with Tok i sometimes forget i have the flag turned on and when I am working at the computer, the machine powers down,

cheers,

Oh yes. The default will always be OFF (No shutdown).
And if you turn it on, next time you run the program, it will be off, so you have to turn it back ON if you want the PC to shutdown ;)
The only thing that is "persistent" is the path to the encoder. That is saved after you select the encoder, and you don't have to set it again, unless you move the CQMatic executable to some other directory.

Edit: I'll probably do it even better. I'll bring up a countdown timer window with a "Shutdown in X seconds", so you have the option to continue or abort shutdown ;)
This way, it you forgot that you set "Shutdown after encode", and you're working on the computer, you'll be notified


-kwag

Avalon 07-21-2003 09:38 AM

Year this sounds very good ... go on...

Avalon 07-21-2003 10:32 AM

Can You give me a short list of very good MPEG-calculator?

So I link them to the guide...

kwag 07-21-2003 10:59 AM

MovieStacker, FitCD, BitrateViewer(Registered version) ( www.tecoltd.com )
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/tools
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/do...c.html#bitrate

-kwag

Racer99 07-21-2003 11:51 AM

How about the ability to batch "predict / encode"?

Racer99

kwag 07-21-2003 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer99
How about the ability to batch "predict / encode"?

Racer99

Noted. It's on the wish list ;)

-kwag

black prince 07-21-2003 01:08 PM

@Kwag,

I noticed the number of target CDs is missing and their size???
How is this being done by CQmatic :?:

Thanks

-bp

Krassi 07-21-2003 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black prince
@Kwag,

I noticed the number of target CDs is missing and their size???
How is this being done by CQmatic :?:

Thanks

-bp

AFAIK this is done by Moviestackers Average Bitrate and the movie time 8) :?:

Kwag, how about multiplexing final file with bbmpeg :?:

Avalon 07-21-2003 01:47 PM

I found one in HTML. I add it to the guide. So can every one calculate with the Guide...

kwag 07-21-2003 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black prince
@Kwag,

I noticed the number of target CDs is missing and their size???
How is this being done by CQmatic :?:

Thanks

-bp

In MovieStacker ;)
Once you set what you want, I'll use the average bitrate :)

-kwag

rendalunit 07-22-2003 02:16 PM

hey kwag,

Any plans to integrate a faster pre-full sample prediction algorithm (such as Tenra's) to zero in on the approximate CQ? It took ~1 1/2 hrs to find the cq (six samples each 15 min to encode). I'll let you know in about eight hours how the filesize turns out :wink:

keep up the great work :!:
ren

Avalon 07-22-2003 02:22 PM

The same happend to me too!
It's happend with the resolutions 352x288, 352x240, 352x576 and 352x480.
In the resolutions 528x480/576 and 704x480/576 it will work.
I'm encode TombRaider now and I got the wanted CQ in beta2 in 10 min.
With beta2a in 9 min. I encode now the movie in CQ 48,15.

Code:

TombRaider:

Res: 704x576
Min: 97
AR: 16:9 small
AvB: 870
MPG: 2
Au1: 128 Stereo
Au2: 128 Stereo
wSi: 800 MB

BTW: DVD2SVCD wanted to encode this movie in CQ 50

kwag 07-22-2003 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendalunit
hey kwag,

Any plans to integrate a faster pre-full sample prediction algorithm (such as Tenra's) to zero in on the approximate CQ? It took ~1 1/2 hrs to find the cq (six samples each 15 min to encode). I'll let you know in about eight hours how the filesize turns out :wink:

keep up the great work :!:
ren

Hi ren,

Did you try the BETA 2a
That should be faster :!:
I'll probably add faster prediction, but that will be for version 2.0, because I think we're pretty close now to Version 1.0 BETA 1 ;)
I just need more reports, before I release as version 1.0.

kwag

Peter1234 07-22-2003 02:28 PM

Suggestions for CQMatic
 
Kwag,

I think it would be easier to enter the length and fps instead of the average frame rate (average frame rate = length in sec / fps) since these are almost always known whereas average frame rate requires using a calculator.

When I use the large fonts display option the entry box titles are truncated. Placing the titles after the boxes, instead of before them, would allow both normal and large fonts to be used.

kwag 07-22-2003 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avalon

BTW: DVD2SVCD wanted to encode this movie in CQ 50

Let us know the final file size, so we can compare the accuracy ;)

-kwag

kwag 07-22-2003 02:36 PM

Re: Suggestions for CQMatic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter1234
Kwag,

I think it would be easier to enter the length and fps instead of the average frame rate (average frame rate = length in sec / fps) since these are almost always known whereas average frame rate requires using a calculator.

You still need a calculator, because CQMatic needs to know the file size to encode, and that is only known with Moviestacker, FitCD, or other calculators that take into consideration the video size, number of CDs, etc.
Quote:


When I use the large fonts display option the entry box titles are truncated. Placing the titles after the boxes, instead of before them, would allow both normal and large fonts to be used.
I haven't tried that :!:

-kwag

Avalon 07-22-2003 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Quote:

Originally Posted by Avalon

BTW: DVD2SVCD wanted to encode this movie in CQ 50

Let us know the final file size, so we can compare the accuracy ;)

-kwag

I give CQMatic a try :wink:

I encode now the movie in CQ: 48,15

vhelp 07-22-2003 07:23 PM

Hi Kwag.. :)

I have a suggestion w/ reference to that suggest for a
dump of the LOG's contents, which was mentioned earlier.

I agree, there should be a feature for this, so that we
can help eather other out in determining the issues that
tapes place when using CQMatic :)

I don't think that its totally necessary to save it to a file,
unless really needed, or if CQMatic becomes more "meaty", but
it doesn't hurt to add in a feature, (a button) for this.

But, since we're all using this app, and in the testing stage,
as with all yours and other peoples "apps in development", it
would be more beneficial to add a dump of the listbox contents
to the CLIPBOARD, so that we can just PASTE it into our posts.
Actually, it's rediculously easy to implement :)

Please add this (right away) into your NEXT update (beta 3) you said ?? ( C++, Delphi, MSVC, C++ Builder ?? you didn't say)
Yeah, don't go another step w/out this. Don't have us all type
blindly, those lines :( ..as I said, it's rediculously easy to implement :)

Much needed feature !! hear, hear!!

Thanks,
-vhelp

kwag 07-23-2003 12:17 AM

Question:
How about a built-in average bitrate calculator :?:
-----------------------------------------------------------
Answer:
Expect that for version 2 ;)
-----------------------------------------------------------

:lol: Nobody suggested it, so I did :mrgreen:

-kwag

kwag 07-23-2003 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vhelp

Please add this (right away) into your NEXT update (beta 3)

That will go on version 1.1
I just want to make version 1.0 as perfect as possible, before adding anything else :!:
First priority is to verify that prediction is correct, then I'll add features :)

-kwag

vhelp 07-23-2003 02:07 AM

>> Please add this (right away) into your NEXT update (beta 3)

Quote:

That will go on version 1.1
I just want to make version 1.0 as perfect as possible, before adding anything else
First priority is to verify that prediction is correct, then I'll add features
OK pal, :)
-vhelp

nicksteel 07-26-2003 08:10 PM

KDVD and CQMatic
 
I hope the final version of CQMatic and its planned bitrate calculator include functions for KDVD output into sized output files (i.e., 1400 as well as 1600).

totonho03 07-26-2003 08:36 PM

Maestro kwag:

I believe that I have placed this request someplace else, so forgive for duplicatinf, but this is the right place for it:

Is it possible to place date and time for the encoding functions? That is the starting and ending time for such functions.

Thanks

Otto

jorel 07-26-2003 08:37 PM

:roll:

maybe ice beers, whiskey(jack d.) and blondes?

kwag 07-26-2003 09:14 PM

Re: KDVD and CQMatic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicksteel
I hope the final version of CQMatic and its planned bitrate calculator include functions for KDVD output into sized output files (i.e., 1400 as well as 1600).

It is, but for version 2 :) I just want version 1 to be as bug free as possible ;)

Edit: I had posted that it would be in version 1.1, but because it will be a major revision, there probably won't be a version 1.1

-kwag

kwag 07-26-2003 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totonho03
Maestro kwag:

I believe that I have placed this request someplace else, so forgive for duplicatinf, but this is the right place for it:

Is it possible to place date and time for the encoding functions? That is the starting and ending time for such functions.

Thanks

Otto

Hi Otto,

I'm testing that right now, for RC-3 ;)
I'm adding that, because it's no big deal, and it won't break any other code :lol:

-kwag

totonho03 07-26-2003 09:42 PM

gracias Dom Kwag

totonho03 07-30-2003 10:48 AM

Kwag:

I have a request, and this request is based on either my quick fingers (read anxiety to see what I had encoded), or stupidity on my part.
I encoded a movie last nght, it took about 7 hours to do, which is great, unfortunatelly it is over 1.1 gig without audio.(will post about it later on), but prior to checking everything, I did not save CQmatic's log. :oops: (I had just waken up and.. excuses, excuses eh?) Double :oops:
My request:
Is it possible to save the log automatically when CQmatic is turned off? Or perhaps trigger a "Would you like to save the log? type of question?
Sorry if this request is silly, I have read before that you are applying the KISS rule, well, in my case, it would be OPF (Operate properly fool)

Thanks

Totonho03

kwag 07-30-2003 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totonho03
Kwag:

I have a request, and this request is based on either my quick fingers (read anxiety to see what I had encoded), or stupidity on my part.
I encoded a movie last nght, it took about 7 hours to do, which is great, unfortunatelly it is over 1.1 gig without audio.(will post about it later on),

But that was not with 1.0 or 1.01 Release, right :?:
Quote:

but prior to checking everything, I did not save CQmatic's log. :oops: (I had just waken up and.. excuses, excuses eh?) Double :oops:
My request:
Is it possible to save the log automatically when CQmatic is turned off? Or perhaps trigger a "Would you like to save the log? type of question?
I'll do better than that. I'll save it to "CQMatic.[date+time here].log" when you double click to copy it to Clipboard, OR automatically when the process is done ;)
This way, I'll never overwrite a log, and you can fill your disk with a log history :mrgreen:
Quote:

Sorry if this request is silly
It's not :!: :D
Quote:

I have read before that you are applying the KISS rule, well, in my case, it would be OPF (Operate properly fool)
:lol: :mrgreen:

-kwag

audi2honda 07-30-2003 12:33 PM

Hey Kwag would it be to much trouble to make the CQMatic window resizable or bigger?

That log area is pretty tiny and after a few sample runs the scroll list gets pretty long. I'd really like to use more screen real estate.

Thanks for all the hard work!! :D

kwag 07-30-2003 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audi2honda
Hey Kwag would it be to much trouble to make the CQMatic window resizable or bigger?

That log area is pretty tiny and after a few sample runs the scroll list gets pretty long. I'd really like to use more screen real estate.

Thanks for all the hard work!! :D

For version 2, which will integrate the bitrate calculator, I'll widen the log window ;)

-kwag

totonho03 07-30-2003 01:06 PM

Hello kwag.

Quote:

Quote:

(Totonho03)I encoded a movie last nght, it took about 7 hours to do, which is great, unfortunatelly it is over 1.1 gig without audio.(will post about it later on),
Quote:

(kwag)But that was not with 1.0 or 1.01 Release, right

Sorry about this, here is the beginning of this morning's log, which is the same version as used last night:

Quote:

http://www.kvcd.net
CQMatic Version 1.0 RC-5
Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003.
All rights reserved.
Time: 11:05:22 Date: 07/30/2003
Ready!
Project: F:\DVDProjects\CQMATIC\tmpgenc\Output\pinochiootto .tpr

Creating: CQMatic.tpr

F:\DVDProjects\CQMATIC\tmpgenc\Output\pinochiootto .m1v
Execute.
Movie Time: 72
Average Bitrate: 1397
Prediction Only mode
Executing Prediction Phase...
Using CQ of 60.00
and the end:
Quote:

Last CQ = 80.924927
Current CQ = 81.090996
CQ difference = 0.166069
CQMatic complete!
Total minutes of process: 69.05
Process ended at 12:14:52
On 07/30/2003
Perhaps I did something wrong last night while trying to fix the stretched output, but I am not sure that one is related to the other.

Thank you for your quick response.

Totonho03

Edit: Sorry Kwag, I should have posted this one in the "bug" thread


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