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hi totonho03,
Sorry, I lost my connect (sys crash) :!: Quote:
and when the SaveAs box comes up, just give it an .rar extention in place of the .mpeg one. For the life of me, I don't know why it comes up that way though. But, I speculate, that it as something to do w/ the archieve being an .m2v file (inside) Just rename .mpeg to an .rar and you will be fine. -vhelp |
Here are my results w/ CQM v1.1.07 thus far:
I just got finished w/ TWO "predicts" w/ v1.1.07 and I was amazed at how much faster it was w/ a complete "predict" of: * Project type: MPEG-2 w/ 16:9 output for true widescreen viewing * Movie: "Dogma" * Length: 128 min - - - (used no seconds here) * bitrate: 741 - - - - - - (based off, Form: Bearson calc mode, in vcalc) * MIN: 423 * Last CQ: 49.152 * FileSize: 11.122mb And, remember, "predict" was run TWICE, cause I coudln't believe it, and thought that either my system would crash on the 2nd test, or give me a complete set of different numbers. But, it game me the SAME :!: Deffinate improvements !! 8) !! see both LOG's 1 and 2 results below. -vhelp ---------------------------------------- http://www.kvcd.net CQMatic Version 1.1.07 Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003. All rights reserved. Time: 17:26:05 Date: 08/10/2003 Ready! Project: H:\en\v2.520-dogma.128x741x423.cqm(v1.1.07).tpr Creating: CQMatic.tpr H:\dogma.hq.01.m2v Project resolution: 704x480 Execute. Movie Time: 128 Average Bitrate: 741 Prediction Only mode Executing Prediction Phase... Process started at 17:27:02 On 08/10/2003 CQ set for prediction Setting up initial sampling. Using CQ of 60.0000 Prediction cycle #1 Encoder started... Process time: 6.15 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.819213 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 60.000000 Last CQ = 60.0000 Current CQ = 49.1528 CQ difference = 10.847233 Using CQ of 49.1528 Prediction cycle #2 Encoder started... Process time: 6.08 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.999408 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 49.152767 Last CQ = 49.1528 Current CQ = 49.1236 CQ difference = 0.029118 CQMatic complete! Total minutes of process: 12.23 Process ended at 17:39:16 On 08/10/2003 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- LOG #2 - 2nd test run -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- http://www.kvcd.net CQMatic Version 1.1.07 Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003. All rights reserved. Time: 17:03:00 Date: 08/10/2003 Ready! Project: H:\en\v2.520-dogma.128x741x423.cqm(v1.1.07).tpr Creating: CQMatic.tpr H:\dogma.hq.01.m2v Project resolution: 704x480 Execute. Movie Time: 128 Average Bitrate: 741 Prediction Only mode Executing Prediction Phase... Process started at 17:03:19 On 08/10/2003 CQ set for prediction Setting up initial sampling. Using CQ of 60.0000 Prediction cycle #1 Encoder started... Process time: 6.15 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.819213 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 60.000000 Last CQ = 60.0000 Current CQ = 49.1528 CQ difference = 10.847233 Using CQ of 49.1528 Prediction cycle #2 Encoder started... Process time: 6.05 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.999408 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 49.152767 Last CQ = 49.1528 Current CQ = 49.1236 CQ difference = 0.029118 CQMatic complete! Total minutes of process: 12.20 Process ended at 17:15:31 On 08/10/2003 note, it was actually 3 times, but the first time, my sys crashed after, but the last value of was 49.152 ..see snip below -- -- -- -- actual first pass (before sys crashed) -- -- -- -- just the tail end is all you need here :) File size difference = 0.999407 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 49.152996 Last CQ = 49.1530 Current CQ = 49.1238 CQ difference = 0.029160 CQMatic complete! Total minutes of process: 13.45 Process ended at 16:42:02 On 08/10/2003 |
ok,
I'm on test testing v1.1.08 for consisency, per Kwagowsky :roll: Same setup as before.. oh, and I think I have the perfect setup for getting the "predict" testing to start the first time w/out issues :confused: finally.. and I wrote the steps down this time.. will test it out again, for the umpteenth time :wink: See you all in 12+ minutes be C8)8)L -vhelp |
CQMatic 1108 resuts
http://www.kvcd.net CQMatic Version 1.1.08 Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003. All rights reserved. Time: 18:56:23 Date: 08/10/2003 Ready! Project: C:\CQMatic\1106.tpr Creating: CQMatic.tpr D:\La Luna\ToK\2\VIDEOKwagPhilpred2.m2v Project resolution: 480x480 Execute. Movie Time: 31 Average Bitrate: 1074 Prediction Only mode Executing Prediction Phase... Process started at 18:56:35 On 08/10/2003 CQ set for prediction Setting up initial sampling. Using CQ of 60.0 Prediction cycle #1 Encoder started... Process time: 6.58 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 1.078562 Low fence: 60.000000 High fence: 90.000000 Last CQ = 60.0 Current CQ = 64.7 CQ difference = 4.713707 Using CQ of 64.7 Prediction cycle #2 Encoder started... Process time: 6.88 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.965236 Low fence: 60.000000 High fence: 64.713707 Last CQ = 64.7 Current CQ = 62.4 CQ difference = 2.356853 Using CQ of 62.4 Prediction cycle #3 Encoder started... Process time: 6.37 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 1.076374 Low fence: 62.356853 High fence: 64.713707 Last CQ = 62.4 Current CQ = 63.5 CQ difference = 1.178425 Using CQ of 63.5 Prediction cycle #4 Encoder started... Process time: 6.17 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.992652 Low fence: 62.356853 High fence: 63.535278 Last CQ = 63.5 Current CQ = 62.9 CQ difference = 0.589211 Using CQ of 62.9 Prediction cycle #5 Encoder started... Process time: 6.53 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 1.033386 Low fence: 62.946068 High fence: 63.535278 Last CQ = 62.9 Current CQ = 63.2 CQ difference = 0.294605 Using CQ of 63.2 Prediction cycle #6 Encoder started... Process time: 6.43 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 1.011382 Low fence: 63.240673 High fence: 63.535278 Last CQ = 63.2 Current CQ = 63.4 CQ difference = 0.147305 CQMatic complete! Total minutes of process: 38.98 Process ended at 19:35:34 On 08/10/2003 :arrow: CQ63,2 is perfect for my target! :D testing now the 1108a version! :wink: |
:hopline:
SUCCESS AGAIN !! Ok, here are my results from v1.1.08 today: Everything stays the same here, as before. * Project type: MPEG-2 w/ 16:9 output for true widescreen viewing * Movie: "Dogma" * Length: 128 min - - - (used no seconds here) * bitrate: 741 - - - - - - (based off, Form: Bearson calc mode, in vcalc) * MIN: 423 * Last CQ: 49.2 - - - - - (from prev. CQ 49.152) * FileSize: 11.123mb (from prev. 11.122mb) -------------------------------------------------- http://www.kvcd.net CQMatic Version 1.1.08 Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003. All rights reserved. Time: 18:16:52 Date: 08/10/2003 Ready! Project: H:\en\v2.520-dogma.128x741x423.cqm(v1.1.07).tpr Creating: CQMatic.tpr H:\dogma.hq.01e.m2v Project resolution: 704x480 Execute. Movie Time: 128 Average Bitrate: 741 Prediction Only mode Executing Prediction Phase... Process started at 18:17:49 On 08/10/2003 CQ set for prediction Setting up initial sampling. Using CQ of 60.0 Prediction cycle #1 Encoder started... Process time: 6.52 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.819213 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 60.000000 Last CQ = 60.0 Current CQ = 49.2 CQ difference = 10.847233 Using CQ of 49.2 Prediction cycle #2 Encoder started... Process time: 6.50 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.999345 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 49.152767 Last CQ = 49.2 Current CQ = 49.1 CQ difference = 0.032185 CQMatic complete! Total minutes of process: 13.03 Process ended at 18:30:51 On 08/10/2003 |
That's great :D , but use 1.1.08a, because I've seen file size differences from x.15 to x.20 CQ values 8O
So it's better to play it safer on precision :cool: -kwag |
:hopline:
Ok, results are in: No change. All is a-ok STILL !! Mind you, these are results based off a "prediction" not a full encode. I'm not yet ready for that. That will prove for sure, weather CQM STANDS up, or sits down hehe to my expectatioins. I'm thinking of setting it up on my 2nd pc and let it necode "Dogma" complete, for this test, but I fear that my 2nd pc will not perform the same or give poor results based off of some strangeness of my 2nd pc. But, that's me going :confused: I'll think about it. Anyways, here are my "prediction" for same material: Everything stays the same here, as before, again. * Project type: MPEG-2 w/ 16:9 output for true widescreen viewing * Movie: "Dogma" * Length: 128 min - - - (used no seconds here) * bitrate: 741 - - - - - - (based off, Form: Bearson calc mode, in vcalc) * MIN: 423 * Last CQ: 49.15 - - - - - (from prev. CQ 49.2, and 49.152) * FileSize: 11.122 - - - - -(prev. 11.123mb and 11.122mb) :!: Note, I used vcalc for all my calcs above, w/ their respective settings. yet another --> C8)8)L -vhelp -- -- -- -- -- http://www.kvcd.net CQMatic Version 1.1.08a Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003. All rights reserved. Time: 18:46:13 Date: 08/10/2003 Ready! Project: H:\en\v2.520-dogma.128x741x423.cqm(v1.1.07).tpr Creating: CQMatic.tpr H:\dogma.hq.01e.m2v Project resolution: 704x480 Execute. Movie Time: 128 Average Bitrate: 741 Prediction Only mode Executing Prediction Phase... Process started at 18:46:43 On 08/10/2003 CQ set for prediction Setting up initial sampling. Using CQ of 60.00 Prediction cycle #1 Encoder started... Process time: 6.63 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.819213 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 60.000000 Last CQ = 60.00 Current CQ = 49.15 CQ difference = 10.847233 Using CQ of 49.15 Prediction cycle #2 Encoder started... Process time: 6.77 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.999407 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 49.152767 Last CQ = 49.15 Current CQ = 49.12 CQ difference = 0.029133 CQMatic complete! Total minutes of process: 13.40 Process ended at 19:00:07 On 08/10/2003 |
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this thread got too big size! this is the last time that i paste the full log...don't need no more. before all,some explanations: athlon xp2000+ but adjusted the bios to 1800 cos here is too hot today, it turn the pc slow but decrease the temper too! the final time will be short when i adjust to 2000 again! ok? results from CQMatic 1108a: http://www.kvcd.net CQMatic Version 1.1.08a Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003. All rights reserved. Time: 19:42:40 Date: 08/10/2003 Ready! Project: C:\CQMatic\1106.tpr Creating: CQMatic.tpr D:\La Luna\ToK\2\VIDEOKwagPhilpred2.m2v Project resolution: 480x480 Execute. Movie Time: 31 Average Bitrate: 1074 Prediction Only mode Executing Prediction Phase... Process started at 19:42:53 On 08/10/2003 CQ set for prediction Setting up initial sampling. Using CQ of 60.00 Prediction cycle #1 Encoder started... Process time: 6.73 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 1.078562 Low fence: 60.000000 High fence: 90.000000 Last CQ = 60.0 Current CQ = 64.7 CQ difference = 4.713699 Using CQ of 64.71 Prediction cycle #2 Encoder started... Process time: 6.62 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.965298 Low fence: 60.000000 High fence: 64.713699 Last CQ = 64.7 Current CQ = 62.4 CQ difference = 2.356850 Using CQ of 62.36 Prediction cycle #3 Encoder started... Process time: 6.87 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 1.076409 Low fence: 62.356850 High fence: 64.713699 Last CQ = 62.4 Current CQ = 63.5 CQ difference = 1.178425 Using CQ of 63.54 Prediction cycle #4 Encoder started... Process time: 6.38 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.990764 Low fence: 62.356850 High fence: 63.535275 Last CQ = 63.5 Current CQ = 62.9 CQ difference = 0.589214 Using CQ of 62.95 Prediction cycle #5 Encoder started... Process time: 6.45 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 1.029363 Low fence: 62.946060 High fence: 63.535275 Last CQ = 62.9 Current CQ = 63.2 CQ difference = 0.294609 Using CQ of 63.24 Prediction cycle #6 Encoder started... Process time: 6.37 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 1.008766 Low fence: 63.240669 High fence: 63.535275 Last CQ = 63.2 Current CQ = 63.4 CQ difference = 0.147301 CQMatic complete! Total minutes of process: 39.42 Process ended at 20:22:18 On 08/10/2003 :arrow: final CQ63,24...perfect AGAIN to my target! :D no more words my dears.....don't need! 8) :hopline: :yippie: :drunkard: |
Just a thought for your next version Kwag.. when you run the program and just click cancel straight out it asks you if you want to abort the process when no process is running.. Perhaps this cancel button could be disabled for when no process is running. Just a thought.
Thanks. |
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http://www.kvcd.net/CQMatic-1.1.08b.exe Thanks, -kwag |
results with 1108b:
http://www.kvcd.net CQMatic Version 1.1.08b Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003. All rights reserved. Time: 23:42:39 Date: 08/10/2003 Ready! Project: C:\CQMatic\1106.tpr Creating: CQMatic.tpr D:\La Luna\ToK\2\VIDEOKwagPhilpred2.m2v Project resolution: 480x480 Execute. Movie Time: 31 Average Bitrate: 1074 Prediction Only mode Executing Prediction Phase... Process started at 23:42:55 On 08/10/2003 CQ set for prediction Setting up initial sampling. Using CQ of 60.00 Prediction cycle #1 ... ... Low fence: 63.240669 High fence: 63.535275 Last CQ = 63.24 Current CQ = 63.39 CQ difference = 0.147301 CQMatic complete! Total minutes of process: 57.38 Process ended at 00:40:18 On 08/11/2003 :arrow: CQ63,24.....ok again! ...and cancel button is ok too,like desired! :bruce: :lol: 8) :ole: |
Well, I just finished doing Full 107min prediction for "Red Planet" ...
* 800 MB CDR * Project type: MPEG-2 w/ 16:9 output for true widescreen viewing * Movie: "Red Planet" * Audio: 112 kbits * Length: 107 min - - - -- (used no seconds here) * bitrate: 909 - - - - - - (based off, Form: Bearson calc mode, in vcalc) * MIN: 518 - - - - - - - - (0.57 * aveBitrate) * Last CQ: 51.26 * Process time: 39.52 minutes * FileSize: 13.604mb @ 2min sample Note, imo, anytime CQ is 50 or greater, expect decent quality or better. 2 minute sample looked good in my opinion for a 1 CDR project !! :hopline: Now, on to the "Matrix" ... -vhelp ----------------- first test run http://www.kvcd.net CQMatic Version 1.1.08a Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003. All rights reserved. Time: 00:28:44 Date: 08/11/2003 Ready! Project: H:\en\v2.520-redplanet.107x909x518.cqm(v1.1.08a).tpr Creating: CQMatic.tpr H:\redplanet.hq.01e.07.m2v Project resolution: 704x480 Execute. Movie Time: 107 Average Bitrate: 909 Prediction Only mode Executing Prediction Phase... Process started at 00:29:13 On 08/11/2003 CQ set for prediction Setting up initial sampling. Using CQ of 60.00 Prediction cycle #1 Encoder started... Process time: 6.53 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.890518 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 60.000000 Last CQ = 60.00 Current CQ = 53.43 CQ difference = 6.568932 Using CQ of 53.43 Prediction cycle #2 Encoder started... Process time: 6.50 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.987020 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 53.431068 Last CQ = 53.43 Current CQ = 52.74 CQ difference = 0.693542 Using CQ of 52.74 Prediction cycle #3 Encoder started... Process time: 6.90 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.988249 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 52.737526 Last CQ = 52.74 Current CQ = 52.12 CQ difference = 0.619709 Using CQ of 52.12 Prediction cycle #4 Encoder started... Process time: 6.40 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.990206 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 52.117817 Last CQ = 52.12 Current CQ = 51.61 CQ difference = 0.510422 Using CQ of 51.61 Prediction cycle #5 Encoder started... Process time: 6.67 minutes. Encoder end. File size difference = 0.993301 Low fence: 2.000000 High fence: 51.607395 Last CQ = 51.61 Current CQ = 51.26 CQ difference = 0.345737 Using CQ of 51.26 Prediction cycle #6 Encoder started... Process time: 6.52 minutes. Encoder end. CQMatic complete! Total minutes of process: 39.52 Process ended at 01:08:44 On 08/11/2003 |
Well, not so good this time around.
Well, I'm still "predicting" the Full 136min for "Matrix" ... and it's sucking bigtime (the movie, that is) It's on it's 10th pass, wow. And, CQ seems to be decrementing by sigle digits like a count down timer . That just suck for me ("matrix" that is) cause I'm waiting and waiting ta go ta bed, and it's STILL going at it.. now down to CQ 23.21. But, I don't get it this time. "Dogma" is a 128min and it only took 2 passes and CQ'ed at 51 !! Must be something to do w/ the source :roll: * 800 MB CDR * Project type: MPEG-2 w/ 16:9 output for true widescreen viewing * Movie: "Matrix" * Audio: 112 kbits * Length: 136 min - - - -- (used no seconds here) * bitrate: 691 - - - - - - (based off, Form: Bearson calc mode, in vcalc) * MIN: 394 - - - - - - - - (0.57 * aveBitrate) * Last CQ: * Process time: * FileSize: @ 2min sample And it's STILL going at it.. :( -vhelp |
Update...
still not so good w/ "matix" its still predicting "Matrix" (see above) * 800 MB CDR * Project type: MPEG-2 w/ 16:9 output for true widescreen viewing * Movie: "Matrix" * Audio: 112 kbits * Length: 136 min - --- (used no seconds here) * bitrate: 691 - - - - - - (based off, Form: Bearson calc mode, in vcalc) * MIN: 394 - - - - - - - - (0.57 * aveBitrate) * Last CQ: * Process time: * FileSize: @ 2min sample 15 passes, and still going at it.. . . and still going.. I'm finished ..w/ "matrix" this time around :roll: -vhelp |
@vhelp,
Don't try to put a movie like "The Matrix" at 704x480 on one CD. I did mention earlier that the CQ curve below ~50 will take a long time to predict, because of TMPEG. Not because of CQMatic :!: Either lower your resolution to 528x480 ( Will look way better than 704x480 anyway :!: ) or put it on 2 CDs, if you insist on that resolution :roll: -kwag |
Hay Kwag,
sorry, I was just trying to see if it would prove just as well, as "Dogma" did, but it didn't. It finally stopped at 173.95minutes after 26 passes. pfew!! I was hopping "Matrix" would work, but I was dissapointed at "Matrix" for now - (not at CQM) :) Anyways, there are other movies to test (later on) getting ready for work :) Have a great day all, -vhelp |
Gentlemen:
A FIRST ONE FOR ME!!!!! I finally completed my first kvcd!!!!!!!!!! :yippie: I know, I know, most of you are way ahead of me but watch out, The Peruvian is running faster than un burro veloz, ja. Burros are notorious for being slow, a few will gallop, but most all of them just walk, they can carry a heavy load, but........ Anyway, the kvcd was not perfect. (Operator error) The size of the file was 799.692 MB, the audio is out of sync, but the video is great!!!!!!, and I was not using any filters at all!!!!!!!!!!!. And of course the only machine that played it was the Cyberhome 60 dollars player. Now I have to do a lot of reading in order for me to be able to have synchronized audio, subtittles and a second languaje. Oh well, this is certainly not a boring hobbie. Well, what can I say but to thank kwag, jorel, vhelp, black prince, red-m, vmesquita, new_bee, dialhot and many others that posted questions similar to the ones I had, as well as the folks who out of the goodness of their hearts took the time to write their guides, vmesquita, black prince, red m, Avalon, and the Spanish guides. To all of you: :drink: in your name with a big THANK YOU, ans a special :ole: to EL MAESTRO KWAG!!!!!!! Totonho03 P.S.- Please do not get mad at you if I keep on posting what may seem silly questions to you...... :D |
Hay toots..
FWIW.. one word, color-space. eliminate the steps in between, that causes the issues with, and you have as good as quality you'll get. Course, theres a few tip'n techneque one keeps to him/her self :wink: Listen, I'm glad you made it, pal :lol: I've ben working w/ the "Matrix" predition, and have had nothing but poor results, which I believe to be the source itself. I have a few hunches, but I need the time to debug them ( which I'm doing now, sort of :) ) Keep up the good work. -vhelp |
Hello vhelp:
Thank you for your help. Just for my clarification, what did you mean by: Quote:
I was going to buy the Matrix and The Red Planet today, but run into virus issues in my computer and expended most of the day correcting it. I ewill more than likely do that tomorrow. Best regards Totonho or Toots, as my friends now call me :D |
hi toots,
Sorry for the confusion :oops: I was on a role. Anyways, fwiw, there are many factors that taint the color space to a degree. In my experience, and imo, I feel that the more one uses filters (filter items) the more of a chance you ARE tainting your sources color space. But, depends on a number of factors. ie, how many filter items you have in your script, ie, ConvertToYUV and ConvertToYV12 etc as examples. Just using them once (IMO) is enough to make me wonder. But, as long as you don't notice anything, then it's safe to not worry about it :) Quote:
and still enjoy it. IMO, it's an original piece. I just hope that the Sequal hasn't spoiled it. The Red Planet is another great movie.. worthy of a Sequal too. |
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