That's why I do all my KDVD in anamorphic and my KVCD in non-anamorphic. On a KDVD we have all the space wanted to "waste" a little the bitrate with an anamorphic image. As my TV is 16:9 compliant, the qualitty is far better.

I did a miniKDVD with 352x288 res and 16:9 flags.
Just to fit the surround audio line on a 80min CDR

It was a backup of my Linkin Park - Live in Texas btw, so video quality didn't matter that much to me.
Bitrate was about 850, and video looked kinda creepy. =)

But it was fun.

???

As I know, 352x288 is not supported in anamorph said in 16:9 flagged mode.

Hmm... I got no probs playing either in PowerDVD or two different standalones tested (don't remember models though).

Try it yourself ;)

On DVDMaestro for example you can set as anamorphic ANY DVD compliant source, even MPG1 ! It worked, I've done it.

I encoded everything in 4:3 stretched, not as anamorphic, and just put the anamorphic flag when authoring.

You are all right.

Anamorphic flag is (as pulldown ;-)) a MPEG2 feature only. But... there is also such a flag in DVD header.

Thus you can do 4:3 DVD with a 16:9 video stream or the opposite (for sure, the A/R will be completely wrong).
I just did it on my first attempt with DVDMaestro (imported a 16:9 m2v but didn't cxhange the project to 16:9 :-().

Alright, just wanted to warm this up again...

what filter combinations is everyone using currently to make KDVDs from commercial DVDs... I'm talking about average quality DVDs, with not much noise. The goal would be fitting 2-3 movies on one DVD Anamorphic Output. The script I'm currently using is:

I'm actually quite satisfied with the results, although sometimes low detail areas tend to look a bit plain...
Please everybody post your favorite script, and I can do some benchmarks... hehe! :lol:

This is mine :
Note that the "72_72" means that this lien has to be used in case of movie with 72 pixels wide top/bottom borders. These are actually 2.35:1 movies.
16_16 is for 1.85:1 movies. You can check the width of the borders in DVD2AVI.
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hy all !

i use this script for 2 movies with ~4 hours in cce (Q=20),
muxed with the ac3-5.1 or 2.0 channels .
if the final size is too big, i re encode only the audio with softencode.
the good is that i don't need to do prediction!
Brasil is too hot and if i use more time, the media can damage( and maybe the player)
remember what i posted here:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9242

this script is called "mixed emotions" :

mpeg2source("D:\kdvd\x.D2V")

Undot()
Asharp(2,4) # do a sample, if needed change to (1,4)
Levels(0,1.15,255,0,255) # all vobs encoded loose some bright

GripCrop(720,480,overscan=1,source_anamorphic=true ,dest_anamorphic=false)
# atention with true or false,depend of the source(moviestacker help a lot)

BicubicResize(GripFit_resize_width,GripFit_resize_ height,0,0.6) # big thanks to fabrice
# - it don't loose (cut) the scenes on the sides like crop
# and/or GripSize(resizer="BiCubicResize") that give strange anamorphics sometimes

deen("a3d",3,4,1,4) # light cleaning

DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)
GripBorders()

ConvertToYUY2() # if needed change to (Interlaced=true)

Trim(0,-1).FadeOut(150) # use for better transition between the movies and soft end !

that's all ! :wink:

0.15 in gamma is more than "a little". But if you like it this way...

You should go to 704*480 and use overscan=2. You won't see the difference but your file will bit a lot smaller.

New or old version of deen ? If you used old one, try the new :
http://atlas2.tgv.net/~media-video/f...c9c1b3be9b4655

Use it withou any parameters first as I didn't try with the ones you like so much.

Note: why don't you don't dest in anamorphic ? You will probably have a widescreen TV a day and you will regret to have done all your KDVD in 4:3.

Phil wrote:
"0.15 in gamma is more than "a little"
i know Phil but just a little,the recommendation is 1.3 !

"You should go to 704*480 and use overscan=2. You won't see the difference but your file will bit a lot smaller."
i knew too...like i posted, size isn't a problem for my target (~ 4 hours)!

"New or old version of deen ?"
is the old version.
i got the new in the link that you posted in another thread
(seems the same link here) but don't did tests !

"You will probably have a widescreen TV a day ..."
like i posted..."you're a joker",
i don't have money for that!
:lol: :lol:

thanks for all recomendations!
:wink:

Hey Phil!

Thanks for the script I love it!! :D
I thought it would be a little too much temporal filtering, but it's really great. Thanks... :wink:

Phil and Jell,
please explain and help me:

no matter if using the script that Phil posted
(i know is for PAL, i change the values for NTSC)
or any other script using crop and letterbox:

:arrow: i loose part of the scene in the picture!

i use the script posted and loose part of the scene in
top,bottom,left and right.

if i am not clear, "copy source to the clipboard" in vdub,
using any script with crop/letterbox (all possibles and combinations)
paste that picture in paint!

do the same with another script without crop/letterbox
(using any other resize like bicubic,lanczos...)
and paste that picture i (open another Paint)
and compare the sizes and the scenes from the first image and the second.

please, answer if only i see it or if i did something wrong!
thanks in advance!
:)

Jorel ? To crop in english actually means "remove / cut / erase".
So all scripts that have a Crop line remove some parts of the picture !

Moreover, with letterbox you paint black border ON the picture, so you also lose the image that is normally under the border.

That is different with an addborders which adds a border ARROUND a picture (arround is not "onto", do you understand the difference ?)

So all what you describe is normal.

Phil wrote:
"That is different with an addborders which adds a border ARROUND a picture
(arround is not "onto", do you understand the difference ?)

very very clear my friend :!:

then.....why use crop if you
:arrow: remove some parts of the picture !?!?!
:?

and why use letterbox if you
:arrow: paint black border ON the picture?!?!
:?

the 2 situations loose part of the pictures!
i only want "resize" the picture without "loose" anything :!:

then.......why use crop/letterbox?!?!?
:arrow: this is unclear for me :!:
:?

Because :
1/ it's faster
2/ it doesnt hurt the rest of the image. A resize does affect the WHOLE image and if the resizer is bad, all the picture is screwed up.
3/ I crop 8 pixels. That is under the normal overscan of my TV that means that the part I crop, I do not see it when I whatch the original DVD. So it's not a problem if I loose it also on my KDVD backup ;-)

See reason 1 and 3 above. Just replace the word "crop" by "paint".

I never said you won't loose anything by using this :!: But as I just told, what you lose with this method is what you already lose when you watch your original DVD and you don't cry about it, do you ? :-)

By the way you can also ask to Moviestacker to give you correct parameters for resizing but for the reason #2 I enumerated above, I find this is a bad idea.

@Jelly
You're welcome. In fact I wonder recently why I put 3 filters but I think that there are too much spatial filtering, not temporal. In other words I would try without undot.
Now if you rather to have a little less temporal, you can change temporalcleaner for temporalsoften. It is lighter.

Many times I was read in this forum that speed makes no sense.
In many other scripts you trust in resize, why you don't in this one?
I think if you resize and then addborders, you don't loose any part of the image, only it will loose just these borders. In other words, you will see more than in the original DVD.

yes Phil,
i had understood it all! :wink:

this is what i mean too (Prodater64 post):
"I think if you resize and then addborders, you don't loose any part of the image,
only it will loose just these borders.

:arrow: In other words, you will see more than in the original DVD. "

true, all my encodes and samples show that :!:

you found the right words Prodater64 :!:
:D

Because it doesn''t. But here speed comes in common with both other 2 reasons. And you are right, the order wasn't correct : the first reason in word of importance should have been the #2. The #1 comes in last position.

You are talking about scripts to make KVCD where i MUST resize !
Here I'm doing DVD. Did you see any script of mine for DVD where I use resize ? ;-)

But I what I will see would have been screwed up by the resizer. I'd rather to lose 1% of the image than to look at 100% of it distorted by a mathematical interpolation. FYI "bilinear" and "bicubic" stand for "bilinear interpolation" and "bicubic interpolation". Interpolation means rounding/averaging/guessing of pixel values.

Think about that... You too Jorel :-D

Note: Prodater, if you want to fight with me ask yourself why I didn't post yet my results about MCE... :wink:

1 - I understand that like a joke (for the smile)
2 - Anyway, I don't want to fight with nobody at all!
3 - I'm here learning (¡you are a professor!), i'm an "asker", sorry.
4 - You can see I learn (see point 1 and this one too) :)
5 - BTW, since you mention it, I cannot stay waiting for, Phil!!!! 8O

Edited: I forget it, finally I agree with you, I prefer too, croping than resizing, as you explained.