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digitall.doc 03-15-2004 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilu
Ora temos mais um aportuguesado! :D

Pelo menos até o 50% :lol:

kwag 03-15-2004 05:09 PM

This thread has really gone haywire :lol:

rds_correia 03-15-2004 05:11 PM

Darn!
I sweared I wouldn't post here anymore because of the subject but with so many important
guys starting to speak Portuguese in 10 minutes I really couldn't stop myself from doing it.
@Jorel
Aí Jorel,
A galera tá esperando seu PM pró Karl em Português mesmo.
Não esquenta que a gente traduz tudinho pró povão.
[]'s

@all
:lol:
What do you all think of my Portuguese Brasilien impression :?: :lol:
Cheers guys

bilu 03-15-2004 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia
@all
:lol:
What do you all think of my Portuguese Brasilien impression :?: :lol:

I would like to have Incredible's opinion on that :lol: ;)


Bilu

kwag 03-15-2004 05:17 PM

Hello,

Pues como no entiendo un pepino, voy a postear algo en español, para asi sentirme un poco mas alegre :mrgreen:
Por lo menos se que los que hablan portugues, me pueden entender bastante, ya que los dos idiomas se parecen mucho.

And ahora, we'll talk un poquito of spanglish para complicate more the asunto. And that way podemos crear a caos in this hilo :rotf:

I think it's time to change the subject of this thread :lol:

-kwag

bilu 03-15-2004 05:20 PM

@Kwag

What about Jorel's PM?

Bilu

rds_correia 03-15-2004 05:23 PM

Dear me!
Am I going nuts already or English is starting to seam a lot like Spanish these days? :lol:
Maybe it's the beer I've been drinking lately :mrgreen:
Or maybe I could stop smoking these things...
Of course we podiemos siempre hablar a little Spanish in the mientras we're speaking Ingles here en lo foro 8)

kwag 03-15-2004 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilu
@Kwag

What about Jorel's PM?

Bilu

I'll make a quick review of his PM.

Case 1:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...threadid=72691
How many reads and posts there :?: A lot, right :?: And a program that is not even close to vmesquitas DIKO.
But then vmesquita posted his announcement on that forum some time ago, and there were hardly any replies.

Case 2:
jorel spots a problem with the FuPPscrip.
Hours later, the new script appears here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...p&pagenumber=9
but no mention about jorel's findings :?: :roll:

Funny, isn't it :?:

-kwag

bilu 03-15-2004 05:47 PM

Pretty normal these days, I guess :roll:

rds_correia 03-15-2004 06:03 PM

Ok Kwag,
Now I'm a bit lost...
Can you put it plain and simple on what you just posted?
Have we got any reasons for suspect on anybody's behaviour at doom9 or maybe already
here at kvcd.net lately :?:
I followed bilu's thread at doom9 and couldn't stop noticing how Avalon was trying to
make friends with bilu.
I wanted to warn bilu but I thought he already had seen this thread here so he was already
waiting for it to happen anytime.
But if I already know what to think about Avalon I cannot say the same on some guys at
doom9 not to say that some are already registered here as well.
So let's go for it: any new rats around???
C ya

bilu 03-15-2004 06:08 PM

Users browse, users post :)

If they find info here and post it to their friends in another forum, they should have posted links so that others can check for themselves, not limit the truth for them. But unfortunately some want to be "The Source" or as Avalon says "THE MAN": it's kind of a "I need to be a religious leader" :twisted:


Bilu

vmesquita 03-15-2004 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
How many reads and posts there :?: A lot, right :?: And a program that is not even close to vmesquitas DIKO.
But then vmesquita posted his announcement on that forum some time ago, and there were hardly any replies.

Actually when I was releasing the first DIKO, I PMed doom9 about where could I post an announcement about this. He ignored my first PM. Then I asked again and got this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by doom9
I think the one click forum would be appropriate for it though it might get a rather critical exception. Why? The K before DVD. Breaking established standards is imho most definitely not the way to go and most people here are rather laughing about kvcd than taking it seriously (me included).

I answered explaining that KDVD is not actually non-standard, but got no reply.
So I posted about the tool anyway, and almost anyone got interested. It's interesting to note doom9 never mentioned in its news page. I felt like "We don't want/need you here, don't you see?".
The treatment was so much different here at KVCD.net where DIKO now has its own forum and Kwag itself helped by making a mpeg splitting tool. And even in DVDRHELP.COM, Baldrick (or other admin, not sure now) recommended my tool to a newbie at least once, and always adds new version information very fast when I ask.
So what I have to say is: I don't know why they act like that. I am not ashame to say that I learned a lot at doom9. But it seems that they became very arrogant and self-righteous. :(
Anyway, we don't need them for anything, we got briliant minds here in this forum. But of course, it would be much better if they acted differently.
:D

rds_correia 03-15-2004 06:22 PM

I agree bilu.
Though I don't find any problem on sharing knowledge everywhere.
I can't remember but I may have posted some procedure I use to overcome a problem
that I may have seen written in another forum.
Shame on me if I didn't warn you where I learnt of it.
But then I may have done it not on purpose.
Not that this way I should be excused but sometimes we just forget to mention something.
I guess that's quite normal.
What I find very unusual is having some guys surfing every forum they can gathering info
from everybody so that they can build a nice homepage saying how they are THE MAN,
how they came up with nice matrices or nice GUIs for some free tools and how their
revolutionary method is going to change the world.
Just can't find any reason for this kind of behaviour.
I just think that sharing is what it's all about, here and everywhere.
It just doesn't matter who found it first...
C ya

kwag 03-15-2004 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmesquita
Actually when I was releasing the first DIKO, I PMed doom9 about where could I post an announcement about this. He ignored my first PM. Then I asked again and got this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by doom9
I think the one click forum would be appropriate for it though it might get a rather critical exception. Why? The K before DVD. Breaking established standards is imho most definitely not the way to go and most people here are rather laughing about kvcd than taking it seriously (me included).


So that's why doom9 never answered my PM's :!:
It's funny, that we have always announced some of their developments here, but they have NEVER announced any of our developments there :!:
Arrogancy, or afraid :?:
Maybe they are afraid that they are slowly growing, but we are outgrowing them at a rocket speed :!:
I think I posted the statistics once, where the "on line" ratio of users to the "user base", is far greater here than at the "other site(s)" :!:
Even though there are ~3,400 users registered here, there is an average of 25 to 30 users on line. They have an average of close to 200 users on line, but their user base is over 50,000 :!:
Quote:

I answered explaining that KDVD is not actually non-standard, but got no reply.
So I posted about the tool anyway, and almost anyone got interested. It's interesting to note doom9 never mentioned in its news page. I felt like "We don't want/need you here, don't you see?".
The treatment was so much different here at KVCD.net where DIKO now has its own forum and Kwag itself helped by making a mpeg splitting tool.
That's because at doom9, they want to be "The God" of video web sites. I think everyone here are more open minded, and that's what makes this site more friendly ;)
Quote:

. And even in DVDRHELP.COM, Baldrick (or other admin, not sure now) recommended my tool to a newbie at least once, and always adds new version information very fast when I ask.
So what I have to say is: I don't know why they act like that. I am not ashame to say that I learned a lot at doom9. But it seems that they became very arrogant and self-righteous. :(
Anyway, we don't need them for anything, we got briliant minds here in this forum. But of course, it would be much better if they acted differently.
:D
I agree :D
There are many bright people here, and more come every day. As a matter of fact, there are many users from doom9 that go back and forth between doom9 and this site. The ones that "blind" themselves, and stay there, and don't want to look elsewhere, they don't know what they're missing.
Remember the China wall ;)

-kwag

kwag 03-15-2004 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmesquita
Quote:

Originally Posted by doom9
Why? The K before DVD. Breaking established standards is imho most definitely not the way to go and most people here are rather laughing about kvcd than taking it seriously (me included).


And the joke is actually on themselves, just like what I think of standards: They are good, for some time. Then, they suck, and hold back on technology developments.
That's why we like to break the standards, and I love it :mrgreen:

-kwag

Dialhot 03-15-2004 07:02 PM

What *I* think is if that so called Doom9 didn't catch that KDVD ARE standard compliants he should stop doing video and try something a little less complicate for him. But not cooking, is too dangerous. Pearl collars may be ? ;-)

I know, I love pushing this very far, but I mean it.

marcellus 03-15-2004 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
That's because at doom9, they want to be "The God" of video web sites. I think everyone here are more open minded, and that's what makes this site more friendly

Now I remember that at some point I wondered why is no mention of the unmatched (IMHO) notch matrix in their download section, since for me that one was mandatory for a good quality encoding at low bitrates, (before ffvfw got in the picture).
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
As a matter of fact, there are many users from doom9 that go back and forth between doom9 and this site.

You were talking about me? :D :D :D

kwag 03-15-2004 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcellus
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
As a matter of fact, there are many users from doom9 that go back and forth between doom9 and this site.

You were talking about me? :D :D :D

Well, if you browse there, and of course here too, then you're one of them :D
But see, that makes you an open minded person, because you don't lock up yourself on one site.
I myself browse many sites, but KVCD is, of course, my home page.
But you should see my bookmarks :lol:

-kwag

jorel 03-15-2004 07:43 PM

a long time ago in a far, far distant galaxy:

do you all remember this?
lots of bla bla blas, better is don't read!
:lol:
it happen a long time and still:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3850

read only the title, you will remember!

the thing still alive... :lol: :lol: :lol:

kwag 03-15-2004 08:02 PM

WOW, I forgot all about that thread jorel :D
Thanks for bringing back memories, specially to refresh people minds about the manner of some users there :hihi:

Here's another one for the board: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...threadid=25301
And this one is really hilarious. Search for "kwag" on this page, and there's where the fun begins: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...threadid=17260

-kwag

bilu 03-15-2004 08:06 PM

Do you really want to remind this? :roll:

Bilu

jorel 03-15-2004 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonny
Avalon is a strange guy.
There is a sort of black and white in him.
There are no doubts that he try to make everything to bring traffic and credits to his site.

:roll: (he is surely a bit crazy ^^)

"black and white in him." ???

maybe avalon is Mich. Jackson in desguise singing (a bit crazy):
"you know i'm bad,i'm bad,you know it!"

:lol:

kwag 03-15-2004 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorel
maybe avalon is Mich. Jackson in desguise singing (a bit crazy):
"you know i'm bad,i'm bad,you know it!"

:lol:

:rotf:

jorel 03-15-2004 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilu
Do you really want to remind this? :roll:

Bilu

no bilu, really don't!
me and neuron don't have more problems and i think that
this is the normal comportament of lots of members there
but not of all members, i have good friends there and call lots to came here!

yesterday i was thinking in post this in d9 forum:
where is neuron2 ?
i will ask in d9 forum but i'm afraid that don't get any answer,
no answers is normal in d9....or they send links,rules to read or complete silence!
if you want(but i don't think you will want it),
i can send to you by pm lots of links showing bad treatment that i had
and in some of them they call me "an idiot"!
i have tons of thread (pages) saved and i send the bach pages(remember)
when he delete "everything" in d9!
i have the "originals"!!!!
bach, brasilian like me, help me when somebody (wa not neuron2) treat me bad!

do you understand me now ?

:wink:

bilu 03-16-2004 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorel
Quote:

Originally Posted by bilu
Do you really want to remind this? :roll:

Bilu

yesterday i was thinking in post this in d9 forum:
where is neuron2 ?
i will ask in d9 forum but i'm afraid that don't get any answer,
no answers is normal in d9....or they send links,rules to read or complete silence!

He's on sabbatical.
http://neuron2.net/ipw-web/bulletin/...hp?p=2452#2452


Bilu

jorel 03-16-2004 03:18 AM

thanks for that bilu!
i don't knew about neuron2 "sabbatical".

like i told you, we don't have problems no more.
neuron2 have only one post in kvcd forum,(but we all want lots posts from he)
that was posted after all problems is gone, take a look please:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6097

and his work still very cool !
:wink:

bilu 03-17-2004 09:02 AM

I'm impressed with the attitude :)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...920#post459920


Bilu

vmesquita 03-17-2004 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnon82
Nic released today his new QuEnc
It based on the same codecsource like MEncoder. Nic is on the beginning. I'm far away. So You have still more options in MEncoder. But Nic will work hard, and maybe his encoder will be better. Try it out.

Ok this is funny... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I can't stop laughthing... :mrgreen: :mnkypile:

kwag 03-17-2004 09:14 AM

Now just watch for a "QuEncCOCOCValonDCD" "branded" encoder :mrgreen: :rotf:

-kwag

vmesquita 03-17-2004 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Now just watch for a "QuEncCOCOCValonDCD" "branded" encoder

:lol: :lol: :lol: :rotf: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

incredible 03-17-2004 09:48 AM

He just tries do do advertising for the stuff which is hosted on his page, ... no matter what it costs. Thats all. And if he would have a bit more "understatement" in his doings he wouldn't directly compare with other products/doings.

vmesquita 03-17-2004 09:53 AM

Yes, it's like he's saying: "Nice try Nick, but my great encoder is much better, maybe one day you'll get there. Now everyone, look at my much better results comparing to Nick's encoder and go check it!"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
He has done it so many times that now it looks very funny to me! :lol:

bilu 03-18-2004 04:00 AM

Now that's something different:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...078#post460078

:roll:


Bilu

bilu 03-18-2004 04:06 AM

Argh 8O

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...141#post460141

Quote:

Hi itcth why You post things of DRPEnc into QuEnc? I think You bother Nic in his thread! Read again the rules of this forum!

So what is exactly Your problem? I see Your using 1Pass encoding with MP2 Audio. When did it stoppes exactly? After the encode or in the encode pass. I seems fine. As I see You found Your mistake in the second post in the QuEnc thread. Once again: Itcth if You want realy quick help go to my page and use ICQ. My number is on the DRPEnc page. And please apologize Your self by Nic. I don't want to run a battle with nic! THX You
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...471#post460471

Quote:

ARRRGGHHH! Wrong thread!!!!

Man itcth! What is the problem with You? Read the titles of the threads!
Is there written 'DRPEnc - GUI for MEncoder'? Or is this the thread where we talk about my new MEncoder builds?

Bilu

incredible 03-18-2004 06:00 AM

I agree with the others like rds_c. etc. some posts before ....

I think these quotes now are a specific problem between doom9.org and avalon/amnon and do not have something to do with our work here. ;-)

No offense Bilu :) ! but ...
We begin to start behaving like he did ... and that should not be the way ;-)

Let him develope .... let them fight there ... he's banned from here as he behaved yery bad in here (as I know that very well ;-) ) and according to avalon at Doom9.org: Real knowledged people do know his history and copy-strategies.

jorel 03-18-2004 06:10 AM

8O
oh my God!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
i only read the last 9 posts now (and the links)!

dr.jack and mr.hide or mic.Jackson in desguise?!?!?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

bilu 03-18-2004 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
No offense Bilu :) ! but ...
We begin to start behaving like he did ... and that should not be the way ;-)

You know you're right :)

Bilu

rds_correia 03-18-2004 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
Let him develope .... let them fight there ...

That's the spirit Inc.
Even if we can't stop him from coming here we can stop advertising him.
Instead we should focus on the libavcodec scene.
How good, how fast and how small our backups should be!
That's probably what I/we should be looking for.
I have to condemn myself because I haven't had the time to test/post lately for
professional reasons but I'll try to do some work this weekend.
I once wrote that I would stop posting in this thread.
I even once posted that on kvcd.net's best interest, this thread should be closed.
The reason is simple: he's looking for popularity and he comes here anonimously.
For him this is evidence as he can drive us crazy.
I decline that possibility, so once more I will stop posting here.
Cheers

kwag 03-18-2004 04:39 PM

I agree with you Rui.
Let's close this thread, and keep it for posterity ( and amusement :lol: ) ;)
We all know what what the guy did (and keeps doing!).
He'll just get burned again and again everywhere he goes.
Let's not "advertize" him anymore.

-kwag


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