KVCD.Org hosting transfer
 

Hi all :)

This should be transparent, and nobody should notice when it happens, and that is that I am transfering KVCD.org from the current SHITTY provider "ipowerweb.com", to a new provider "www.canaca.com"
Because the portal (kvcd.net) doesn't need a database (it uses the file system as database), I can go for the best offer at canaca.com, which is $3.95 per month (Bronze plan) :D
Look :!:
https://www.canaca.com/virtual.html

Also, I'm dropping the developer's forum as I see that now, with FreeEnc, things are moving a little better and we really don't need that forum. There's not much activity there either, so that forum will no longer exist when the transfer is done.

If the new provider works as advertized, and because I've had good references from other people, related to canaca.com, when the KVCD.Net is close to expire, I will also move it to canaca, with the "Silver" plan.

My current provider wants to charge me for a database backup :!: :evil: :x
The current KVCD.Net MySQL database is so big, that it's impossible to do any backups via HTTP (due to timeouts), so they won't "Zip" if for free :x :x
This means that the day I decide to move KVCD.Net to the new provider, I must shut down the forum for some hours, call the provider and pay a fee for the database backup, and then get the database via FTP and send it to the new provider.
It really sucks :!:
Anyway, that's the latest news, so KVCD.Org will be soon transfered to the new site. Let's see how it behaves :roll:

-Karl

Hi Karl :D,
Hope it (canaca) works as they claim and that it goes as smoothly as possible.
3.95$/month?
Man, even I can host a site (not that I want to) :D
One issue, though:
I am aware that we haven't been using the advanced forum lately and that it does make sense shuting it down.
But where will we post anything related to mencoder?
I know we're all (most of us anyway) very excited with FreeEnc.
But some of us (a minority for sure) are already very tied to mencoder.
Re-opening the old mencoder forum doesn't seem to make sense too :roll:.
Does it mean we will "shutdown" mencoder for good at KVCD :?:
Cheers buddy

EDIT: If we want to keep testing it we'll need later builds.
So what if we open a thread at FF forum and make it a locked sticky with a small statement like:

I think we shouldnt reakt to fast by imideately deleting the dev.area, also the hold mencoder forum part as you never now what will soonly happen at mplayerhq.

If it doesnt push up Karls costs, so why deleting it.

Right here in the moderator's forum :) Not at all!
Let's talk about it here ;)

-Karl

That is exactly the problem :!:
The reason for the move to the other provider is the price.
I'm already up to around ~30GB of transfer per month on KVCD.Net.
KVCD.Org is around 15+GB per month.
Soon, we'll go over the limit of traffic, and if I don't move the forum, they will shut down the site when it reaches 40GB :!:
Each month, traffic is increasing more and more.
The prices at canaca are just excelent, and the second plan includes 80GB transfer per month, so that's where KVCD.Net will go.
BTW, in a couple of months, I'll have cable modem with a bandwidth of ~3Mbps peak. So I might just move kvcd.net (the portal) to my own server, and then move kvcd.net to canaca.com.
THEN, I can re-open the developer's forum (and who knows what else!), and it will be hosted on my own FreeBSD server :)
Or, wait, actually because dev.kdvd.net is low traffic, I could install it right now on my server :idea:
I have DSL (128/256), but the developer's forum is low bandwidth, so I might just do that :D
I'll take a look tonight, and I'll install Apache/MySQL and the forum. If it looks good locally, then I'll post a message here ;)

-Karl

I'm uploading the portal to the new provider right now :)
It will be several hours before the name servers get updated, but by tomorrow night, anyone browsing www.kvcd.net, will be hitting the new site hosted at canaca.com :D
When the upload is done, I'll post a temporary link here so everyone can check it out, and see if it's ok.
Uploading ............................................

.............. DONE :!:
Enjoy ;)

Temporary link: http://66.49.186.233/portal/index.php

-Karl

Errmm,
Hi Karl :)
You didn't tell us how it went :lol:
What are the chances with the advanced forum?
Cheers

Hi Rui,

It went well :)
kvcd.net is already up and runnning on the new site.
Sadly, I have to renew kvcd.net before the 9'th of next month, and due to the database size, I must renew in the same hosting (ipowerweb) for another 1 year term :x
This will be the last term on Ipowerweb, as next year, kvcd.net and kvcd.net will be consolidated on a single site at canaca.
For the price there, I can host the portal and the forums on the same place, and I have secure shell access, so database backups won't be a problem.
Right now, I don't have control over the database, and that worries me.
So before september next year, I will transfer kvcd.net over to canaca, and of course, the idiots at ipowerweb will charge me for a database backup, so I can access it via FTP, but that will be the last business I do with ipowerweb.com :!:
As to the development forum, I backed it up completely, but I haven't had a chance to install it.
I might just hold back a couple of months, and when I get my cable modem set up, I will install it AND the portal on my BSD machine.
As a matter of fact, I will probably call canaca and ask them to upgrade my kvcd.net account, and rename it to kvcd.net, and then I can transfer kvcd.net to them.
I'm also considering If the cable provider (Adelphia) proves to be reliable, I might even host all the forums on a local box, because the local cable provider's bandwidth is ~3Mbps, and that's good enough for a forum. I'll just clean up all downloads, etc., and put them off site (free servers), and that way I don't need to pay for any hosting at all. Just my local cable company, which is a fixed fee.

-Karl

That would be nice.
I got very attached to it, you know?
And I really don't think that using the Mods forum for mencoder related issues is appropriate.
Besides that I even would like you to consider the possibility to move the kvcd.net forum from phpBB to SMF ;-)
Uau. That was too confusing to me :lol: :confused:
Uaaaauuuu :!:
3Mb/s :?: Talk about broadband :!: I wish my cable provider would have such a product too :D

I already thought about that, and if indeed I could import the phpBB database into SMF (there's a program to do the translation :) ), it WILL be a go :D
I too like SMF MUCH better than phpBB :cool:
Let's see what happens.
I might surprise you all ;)

Note: I'm still evaluation if I have time to "SEND IPOWERWEB.NET TO HELL" :lol:
and set up the KVCD.Net at canaca.com.
You know that this will require that I shut down the forum for at least one day, in order to ask the damn provider to ZIP the database, so I can FTP (download) to myself, and then FTP it (upload) to canaca.com :x
There's no way around that.
But once on the new hosting, the account does include secure shell, so I can do whatever I want with the MySQL database :)
So I can actually install SMF, import the database, and test it.
If it doesn't work (highly unlikely :cool:), I can always fall back to phpBB :twisted:

Stay tunned...

Edit: http://www.simplemachines.org/download.php?converters :mrgreen:

-Karl

Even without the shell access you should be able to do it. Most hosts allow the MySQL data to be downloaded as a file. You could then run the converter locally, and upload it to the new server as SQL. Most of the hosts I've seen allow this kind of thing...

Hi Ross,

Actually, it's not possible when large databases are used, because of timeouts.
Most (all?) php executing functions on a server are limited to 30 seconds, so you can't make a backup of more than 5 to 10MB or so.
Anyway, we're up and running now, as the current provider supplies SSH, and I was able to FTP the ~300MB database :lol: plus another 100MB of site data, and everything should be fine.
It will be some hours before the name servers replicate around the world, but I've redirected the old site to this IP address, until the name "kvcd.net" is visible on everyone's DNS's.

-Karl

@Rui,

I imported the complete database on SMF, and it was a success and a total disaster in a way :lol:

The import process went 100% without errors, but then, the complete forum was visible, even the Moderator's forum 8O
Also, all "moderator" atributes didn't get imported, so it was going to be a big task manually changing privileges, etc.
So, I just did a complete full backup of all directories on the old kvcd.net site, and uploaded the complete tree to this new provider.
The only problem we have is with latin character set. Glanzend can't log in now :lol: :mrgreen:
Look at the French and Portuguese forums, and you'll see what I mean :!:
It's a PHP problem on this site. I've opened a service ticket, and I hope they fix it soon.

-Karl

Hi Karl,
Damn, I wish it would work :sad:
But the good thing is we're back up on a new provider that will cost you cheaper.
And phpBB is not so bad either :D

8O If you ask me I see it more like a feature :mrgreen:
Just kidding, of course :lol:

Hope they can help us ASAP.
Thanks for all the info you've given us in this process.
Cheers

There's something wrong here :roll:
Although I have already opened all my unreaded posts, they still have the yellow dot as if they weren't read yet.
Can somebody else double check this?
Cheers

HAHAHA LMAO :rotf:
Wait till she reads this HAHAHAHA :lol:

(BTW, the character problem has been fixed :D )

Yes, I'm aware of that, and it's related to cookies.
Because I'm forcing the forum to operate on a fixed IP, instead of a name (kvcd.net) :)
I'm just waiting another 3 or 4 hours, and when I start seeing the name kvcd.net point to canaca's DNS's instead of ipowerweb, then I'll change the domain name from 66.49.189.7 to www.kvcd.net, and that should fix the problem.
Also E-Mail notifications should start to work, once I make the change.

-Karl

:jawdrop: Does that mean you don't like me anymore? :bawl:

But of course not my dearest :oops:.
As I've said I was only kidding with Karl and you.
I'm not the charming guy sending you flowers and all, but I am very fond of you and I've always liked your presence :).
You see it kinda give us more confidence on the legal matters and makes us laugh like hell in the jokes forum.
So, of course I'd like you to be able to log everytime you want.
Please disregard all my nonsense posts.
You'll know when you read one: as always those have a lot of :lol: and :rotf: and :mrgreen: around ;-)
Cheers

:bouncy: Nice to hear that, thank you very much! :bouncy:

And as soon as you have a chance take a walk down the joke forum, I posted some new ones

ciao
Glänzend

Yes :) I have read a couple already :).
And I'm saving some for tomorrow ;-)
Hope everything is ok with that hurricane alert.
Cheers

Karl,

This is the third time since you moved the site that i receive this page just when I want to post a message :
--
Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, karl@softronex.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
--

Not really a problem, just have to do a "back" then post again.

EDIT: a fourth time right now when I tried to retrieve the list of last posts :-(
(http://www.kvcd.net/forum/search.php?search_id=newposts)

Hi Karl,
This "Internal error" thing happened to me last night.
But I was logged on for a big amount of time: maybe it happened to me a dozen times and it's right when
you ask to submit a post.
At least to me it seemed like a pattern.
Also the forum was down for ~1hour at 5 or 6 am here, but maybe it was backing up or something?
Cheers

Hi guys,

Thanks for the reports.
Yes, I've seen the internal error (too many times too!), and I'm filling a report on the hosting.
Today, I haven't seen it yet, but it's beginning to worry me.
As I posted on another thread, this provider gives 30 days guaranteed money back, if the customer is not satisfied.
So in a three week time, if these problems continue on a daily basis, I'll make arrangements to move to another hosting.
I really hope this doesn't happen, because the tools/price/features at canaca are just perfect for the job.
But hey, maybe it's because their servers run Linux and not *BSD :twisted:
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/...www.canaca.com
Please keep me informed of any anomalies you see, so I can document them.

Thanks,
-Karl

Internal Server Error twice the last hour. No big deal, refresh fixed it.
Earlier today I wasn't able to connect to the forum though (Connection Time-Out)... :roll:

Bah!

This people at canaca.com S U C K :!:
DO NOT GET A HOSTING THERE :!:
They had the site shut down due to PHP overload :!: :!:

Sorry, but I have to express myself.

THIS IS **B U L L S H I T**

I told them that we have a MAX of ~20GB of traffic per month, and they sell their account for 80GB per month, and NOWHERE in the site policy says anything about simultaneous users/resources, which is what they are complaining.

So, back to work and evaluating another hosting, as probably by tomorrow they will shut us down again, and it they do, I will secure shell into the system, make a full database backup, and move it to another hosting immediately.
Sorry for all the hassle people :roll:

-Karl

I just talked to a technical representative at www.bluehost.com ( this site has excelent reviews) and I asked SPECIFICALLY about their system resources, secure shell, etc., and he was actually amazed at what canaca did to us, after I explained the problem.
He guaranted that those issues are NOT going to happen at that hosting, so it seems that I'll probably be shutting the forum tomorrow night for a full backup, and then transfering all data to bluehost.com.
The price is about the same, with slightly less bandwidth per month ( 70Gigs instead of 80 gigs), and that's not an issue.
So, that's it for now.
Remember, if you see the forum down, check www.kvcd.net for any news.
As I see it, I'm getting to be an expert doing backup/restore and moving web sites around the world :twisted:

-Karl

:lol:
But not kidding :!:
All of canaca.com runs on Linux :!:

Account opened at bluehost.com :!:
:arrow: Currently ftp'ing (uploading) full site.
Tomorrow I'll lock the forum, so I can make a backup, and then I'll transfer to the new host.

The temporary address will be: http://209.63.57.146/~kvcdnet
I will hard link that address on the portal, until the name servers update (which usually take 24-36 hours)

So that's it :!:
Bye www.canaca.com, it was a very unpleasant 3 day stay :? :roll:

-Karl

I've administered plenty of Linux systems that never went down. Ever. No matter what the system load. They obviously need to upgrade their servers...

Yes, I know :)
These people definitely have a problem :!:
I mean, if they can't handle a load of ~60 to ~80 users on line, that's pretty weak :!:
What pisses me off is that there's no mention about system resources on their agreement. Just plain 80GB of transfer per month.
Which means that it's a false advertisement, because if they have limited resources, then nobody can ever reach the 80Gigs a month.
I asked that specific question at bluehost.com, and they assured me that this is not a problem on their site, and as a matter of fact, they are getting many users from ipowerweb.com (the site where kvcd.net was previously hosted), just because of limited tools, like secure shell which is a must for kvcd.net.
I'm sure that canaca will again shut the site tomorrow, so I'm not going to give them any chances now.
I've started the ftp upload, and tomorrow I'll close the forum and close the canaca account.
I should have read the reviews, before taking someone's word for it.
canaca was recommended by someone where I'm doing some work during the week. I'll have some news for him tomorrow :twisted:

But I still like *BSD anytime, before any Linux distro :mrgreen:
~10 years with FreeBSD wears very well :cool:

-Karl

I bet they have a "we reserve the right to shut down your site at any time" clause though. If they don't, we'll all file a class-action lawsuit! ;)

And I also have the "Reserved right to shut down the site at any time and at any hosting, without notification", and move quickly to another host :D
We are now running on bluehost.com ;)
Hopefully, I'll be able to get some sleep now 8O

-Karl

Forum stable now :?: :?: :?: :?:

It's working great now, errors are gone and the forum is fast as ever! :D 8)

Thanks Vinucius :D
The hell with canaca.com :twisted:
That's the worst hosting I've ever seen :!:
I'm also closing the kvcd.net with them tonight :!:
I'm already uploading the portal (kvcd.net) to the same host on bluehost.com, where KVCD.Net is now hosted, and then I'll do a forwarding to "cloak" www.kvcd.net :arrow: www.kvcd.net/portal ;)

-Karl

Development forum is now back up :!:

http://www.kvcd.net/smf/

And later today, same old addresses: http://dev.kdvd.net or http://development.kdvd.net

-kwag

Grrrrreat :D
Just posted there on the Mencoders forum.
Thank you so much for hopening it again Karl.
BTW this new provider seems to be very good in terms of speed/reliability.
Just hope it's as cheap as canaca ;-).
Thanks for all the hard work you've been going through on the last week, Karl.
You're, really, da man 8)
Cheers