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el_mero_zooter 04-29-2002 04:32 PM

Apex, Panasonic Mpg1VBR and SVCD
 
For the Apex's with audio trouble=
bman, suggested a method to get mpg1 vbr, kwag, to play on some audio-skippin' apex's. Demultiplex and ReMultiplex with bbmpg 1.8 as an SVCD.
Myself , Apex 1500, and other users are reporting that this method works. I did have some hiccups on some divx to kwag'd mpg1. Hey, maybe that should be a guide Divx ;) to kwag, a sort of DivK(w) if u would.


Panasonic Mpg1 and SVCD=
As earlier reported, some Panasonic DVD-RV31 will play Kwag'd mpg1-VBR natively at 352x480, mine does anyhow, no probs.

However, it does not play svcd. Or so went the reports even from panasonic, {according to some users over at vcdhelp}.


On da flipside, though=

Playing around with different settings to get SVCD to play on my DVD-RV31, I accidentally popped in an svcd, fully compliant, one cdr, that I had created to play on my Apex 1500 into the RV-31. And it worked! It played flawlessly. Upon analysing the settings I noticed that I had enable {using VCDEasy, but nero may have the same setting for it}, the old MPGAV trick instead of mpg2. I believe it basically tweaks the entry folder and file name.
"Use MPEGAV/ENTRYSVD instead of MPEG2/ENTRYVCD (for non-complaint DVD Players)".

It may or may not help with your RV-31. It did mine. Bought the unit in december 2001, so I'm not sure if it's on the newer models, or all.

Zooter

bman 04-30-2002 07:57 AM

Re: Apex, Panasonic Mpg1VBR and SVCD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by el_mero_zooter
For the Apex's with audio trouble=
bman, suggested a method to get mpg1 vbr, kwag, to play on some audio-skippin' apex's. Demultiplex and ReMultiplex with bbmpg 1.8 as an SVCD.
Myself , Apex 1500, and other users are reporting that this method works. I did have some hiccups on some divx to kwag'd mpg1. Hey, maybe that should be a guide Divx ;) to kwag, a sort of DivK(w) if u would.


Panasonic Mpg1 and SVCD=
As earlier reported, some Panasonic DVD-RV31 will play Kwag'd mpg1-VBR natively at 352x480, mine does anyhow, no probs.

However, it does not play svcd. Or so went the reports even from panasonic, {according to some users over at vcdhelp}.


On da flipside, though=

Playing around with different settings to get SVCD to play on my DVD-RV31, I accidentally popped in an svcd, fully compliant, one cdr, that I had created to play on my Apex 1500 into the RV-31. And it worked! It played flawlessly. Upon analysing the settings I noticed that I had enable {using VCDEasy, but nero may have the same setting for it}, the old MPGAV trick instead of mpg2. I believe it basically tweaks the entry folder and file name.
"Use MPEGAV/ENTRYSVD instead of MPEG2/ENTRYVCD (for non-complaint DVD Players)".

It may or may not help with your RV-31. It did mine. Bought the unit in december 2001, so I'm not sure if it's on the newer models, or all.

Zooter

HI Zooter !
Nero has that MPEGAV function to , for me it wasn't good .
So I didn't offerd it .

bman

el_mero_zooter 04-30-2002 11:51 AM

well, the two issues i had,,,

I couldn't get mpg1 vbr on my apex 1500, and i couldnt get svcd's to play on the panasonic rv-31. Now im fully stoked on both...


zTr.


now, if i can just get tsvc to work properly, i'd be sailin''

kwag 04-30-2002 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el_mero_zooter
well, the two issues i had,,,

I couldn't get mpg1 vbr on my apex 1500, and i couldnt get svcd's to play on the panasonic rv-31. Now im fully stoked on both...


zTr.


now, if i can just get tsvc to work properly, i'd be sailin''

Hi Zooter:

Try changing the output in the template to 352x240 ( or 288 ).
Leave all other parameters as they are.

I tried it with my old Apex AD-600A and it worked.

kwag

reman 05-13-2002 07:47 AM

Quote:

Try changing the output in the template to 352x240 ( or 288 ).
Leave all other parameters as they are.
The next question begs to be asked: What is the trade off by dropping from 480 to 240 and can it be reclaimed by upping the CQ AND/OR Max bitrate :?:

Related question: Is the SVCD standard (480x480) that much better then a VCD at 352x240? Yes, I know 2x the H lines but picture detail like sharpness etc.

I am able to get ~90 min at MPEG2 480x480 VBR 0-1150 Q100 Normal 44k128. No adjustments elsewhere. Any thoughts :?:

video-man 05-16-2002 04:00 PM

kvcd don't work for me
 
i got the apex ad3201 player and i tried the sample and it didn't work any suggestions

kwag 05-16-2002 05:57 PM

Re: kvcd don't work for me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by video-man
i got the apex ad3201 player and i tried the sample and it didn't work any suggestions

Hi video-man:

Have you tried re-muxing your MPEG file as SVCD with bbmpeg?

This is a fix that works on many Apex models.

Check this thread: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38

kwag


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