General listing update: Very few units are now remaining. :2cents:
Remember: anybody interested in my hardware should PM me, I may not see thread replies as quickly.
And on to some questions/discussions...
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Originally Posted by Danfun64
(Post 64346)
What in the world is the quasi-clone and how does it compare to the clone, let alone the real thing?
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The ATI 600 USB contains multiple chipsets, and the quasi-clones chipsets differ. The quasi-clone either contains the same main video chipset, or a slight variation.
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Originally Posted by jwillis84
(Post 64349)
Tevion (High Speed DVD Maker)
.. [Beware.. there are at least 3 different physical hardware models and software bundles]
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It's actually more like 7 variations. Tevion is like Elgato, where nothing has model numbers. Everything is a "Tevion DVD Maker", which is ironic seeming as how the card cannot capture MPEG (ie, fhe format required for DVD), nor include any DVD authoring software. So you have at least a half-dozen variations of the card. Some look alike, some do not. Some look similar, some look vastly different.
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Tevion quasi-clone and Hauppauge (USB-Live 2) clone
.. [Beware.. there are at least 5 different hardware Revisions released in different shaped boxes, but exact same physical plastic hardware shell]
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And the ATI 600 USB clone version is rare, had low production. I think it was sold exclusive to one store, but have never been able to learn which that was, never been able to verify it. Maybe CompUSA, maybe another. As with other aspects of video, the info is lost, and not even Hauppauge knows.
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The VC500 ... kept releasing them as the VC500 with different incompatible drivers.. so you have to use the driver disk that came with that specific VC500 and not the generic version from the website.. because its updated without versioning specific to the hardware version you have.. lots of confusion.. but use the driver disk that came with the VC500 out of the package.. never swap driver versions.
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Given how we've seen so many varied problems with the VC500, which are not reproducable to others with the "same" card, I'm fairly certain this is the case. Production components were likely just whatever happened to be on the shelf, rather than specific parts. It's why folks like sanlyn have a stellar experience with the VC500, and others want to smash it with a hammer. We see this with other capture cards in years past, so it doesn't at all surprise me.
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I "believe".. though I could be wrong.. LS is refering to what newbies like me think of as the default "proc-amp" settings for the decoder and analog to digital converter in each device. Proc-amps have Brightness, Contrast, Hue and Saturation.. those are the four fundamental "settings" an NTSC or PAL signal has control over when transmitting a color video signal. They are "relative" and can be manually pushed around.. but you have to "do that" .. i.e. fiddle with those variables if the color looks wrong.. too green, too red.. too bright.. too dark. Out of the box, the best capture devices are close to "spot on" by default and you don't have to do any of that setup up front. People are very poor objective judges of what is "right" and often make it worse. And most people don't have a digital signal analyzer or "scope" to help compensate for their errors in judgement. The advantage of a device already known to be calibrated.. is you don't have to calibrate.. just hit record and go.
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This is fairly accurate, especially in content. The ATI 600 USB clones that use the generic eMPIA drivers, rather than the proprietary ATI/Hauppauge drivers, tend to be a bit hot/bright. This is adjusted with the device proc amp (about -5 to -8 is all that's needed), accessed from the filter/crossbar Video menus in VirtualDub. The generic eMPIA drivers control lots of eMPIA chips, so none are as precise as the actual ATI 600 USB with few drivers and a sole chipset. This isn't a problem, or an issue, just something you need to set. It's inverse to the audio, where ATI forgot to include an audio level control (oops!), and a registry hack is required to normalize it at 50% (128). The eMPIA drivers included an audio volume control, accessible in Windows, and sometimes in the filter/crossbar settings.
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The longer something was on the market.. the more variable and worse the total consistency got over time..
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The Panasonic AG-1980P is a great example of this. That deck is all over the map, with the only real consistency being that the caps blow (and re-blow) in all of them.
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Originally Posted by javidial
(Post 65546)
Hi everyone.
My name is Javier,
and perhaps a better usb capture like the ATI 600. Do anybody here has one for sell? lol PM me
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PM'd.