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Here's a quote from the BE75 manual:
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I prefer to de-interlace and upscale my home videos as I believe QTGMC and NNEDI3 are superior to the hardware processing built into TVs. By retaining the 50Hz QTGMC output ensures no loss of any temporal information at all and increases the efficiency of post noise reduction. I use NNEDI3 to upscale to 720P50. Actually, I upscale to 960 x720 and add borders to make it 1280x720. This can be put onto a Bluray disc using lossless H264. Because I am doing a fair amount of video processing I think this more than justifies retaining 10bit resolution up until final encoding. VapourSynth uses all 16bit internal processing by default for a very good reason; retaining the signal quality. High bit depth is also used in commercial fields for the same reason. Arguably 10bit may be overkill for you Latreche34 as you have elected to capture as-is with no de-interlacing. Please note: retaining 10bit video will compress more efficiently than 8bit (contrary to Lord Smurf) |
Yes I kind of figured that out, 10bit option is still on the table but I will use it for important stuff where quality matters.
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480 vs. 486.
DV chose 480 because it is MOD 8 which digital likes, saves space, and the 6 lost lines are in the overscan area anyway and with most analog sources don't contain any watchable information (and are well outside the nominal action safe area). 486 is only mod 2 which fits interlaced. I've seen some schematics from 1990's vintage gear with internal digital processing that used 6-bit A/D for the chroma signal read off tape. After A/D they used 8-bit processing and then 6-bit D/A for final analog output C. |
Yes I do get rid of the 6 extra lines but after capturing unfortunately since it is hard coded in the BE75 chips. It is part of the conversion script to mp4 though so it doesn't require an extra step to get rid of those lines.
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You can encode interlaced h.264 like so: Code:
ffmpeg -i Input.avi -filter:v "crop=720:480:0:0" -c:v libx264 -flags +ildct+ilme -top 1 -aspect 4:3 -b:a 192k Output.mp4-top 0 if it's bottom field first (like DV). If it's a final output file you may also you may also want to specify Code:
-pix_fmt yuv420p |
I progressed little bit since that post, I've been using the following ever since, I will give yours a try:
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ffmpeg -i "input.avi" -vf "crop=w=720:h=480:x=0:y=0,scale=w=-1:h=-1:interl=1,format=yuv420p,setsar=sar=10/11" -flags +ildct+ilme -c:v libx264 -crf 18 -x264opts bff=1:colorprim=smpte170m:transfer=smpte170m:colormatrix=smpte170m:force-cfr -c:a aac -b:a 192k "output.mp4" |
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More generally, how would you determine whether a VHS capture was a good one, in case someone chooses to send their tapes out instead of procuring all the necessary equipment to do it themselves? Starting with the codec they used (HuffYUV vs. DV vs. MPEG-2 or H.264). What are some things to look out for? |
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- Why would you deinterlace on capture? - Why do you think 10-bit makes a difference when a VHS/S-VHS/Video8/Hi8 source is closest 6-bit dithered at most? Not even 8-bit. |
By the same argument VHS is only 30 lines of chroma so it doesn't deserve 4:2:2 capture, But I think both of you have valid points and it should be a middle ground somewhere for the most part, Going extreme is overkill and doing a sloppy job is not worth the effort. But at the end of the day it is the importance of the material what decides in which direction someone can take the task.
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I totally agree.
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The BE75 output for me at least is TFF - top field first (PAL) |
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I have never deinterlaced on capture, why would anyone do this? My Panasonic VCR (NV-HS1000) uses an 8 bit D-A. I can provide the CCT diagram and IC data sheet if you would like. The chip is a Hitachi HA-19211BNT. It has 4 X 6bit DAs internally (=24bit) with 8bit output. The chip is Y only. C goes to another chip which may well be 6 bit as claimed above . Quote:
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I believe you are correct about the chroma resolution, but I think it is only for the horizontal direction. Vertically the chroma resolution is half the Y resolution. Capturing at 4:2:2 IS overkill but guarantees no resolution loss! |
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