Drivers for ATI All-in-Wonder 9000 Pro not installing correctly?
 

I downloaded an ISO from this thread http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...der-hacks.html

Loaded the ISO, and the ATI Catalyst software install screen, clicked Express Install (Recommended) and it seemed to be installing everything, but after the third installer finishes i get nothing.. no signs of programs in the start menu, no notifications saying successful install, no message, no nothing..

I installed .NET Framework 2.0 SP2, and still got the same result.

Whatever could be the reason as to why it's not installing? :confused:

I found this table (with a lot more columns) at an archived UK gamers review site.

It seems to summarize the version of windows ATI cards targeted, or that the cdroms that came with the cards targeted. Their installers would then be better tested against those versions of windows, and should install correctly and completely first try.

I had a problem with the AIW USB2.0 N model, and found that its cdrom installers would only correctly install on an older version of XP than SP2 (only correctly on XP-SP1), and it installed a windows update patch to enable USB2.0 before SP2 became available. (After) you allowed the cdrom to install all the ATI card drivers correctly, you could then install SP2.. but not before. Trying to install the cdrom drivers directly on SP2 the installer would only "partially" install.. you could dig them out and manually sort of install them, but they never worked right. In this case.. ATI had given an (older) version of the device drivers to Microsoft to include in XP-SP2 and that took (priority) over the driver on the cdrom.. but the driver on the cdrom was actually (newer).. so after installing SP2 you went to the driver details panel and pressed the [Rollback] button to roll-back to using the "newer" driver.. and everything worked excellently. Microsoft always placed a (priority) on out of box drivers included with windows, even if the manufacturer had something newer available. The idea was Microsoft had "superior" testing of drivers and only included the best... didn't work out that way most times.

I don't know how accurate the info in the gamers table is.. there has been some controversy over even published materials from ATI.. sometimes I think its what the (wished) were true, but later turned out otherwise.

windows version	Graphics Card	model	Clock	Memory	DirectX	OpenGL	PCIe
W98SE	AIW 128	base	90 MHz	128 bit	6.0	1.2	PCI
W98SE	AIW 128 Pro	pro line	120 MHz	128 bit	6.0	1.2	AGP 4x
W2000	AIW 7200	base	166 MHz	128 bit	7.0	1.3	PCI
XP	AIW VE	value edition	260 MHz	128 bit	8.1	1.3	PCI
XP	AIW 7500	base	260 MHz	128 bit	8.1	1.3	PCI
XP	AIW 8500	base	230 MHz	128 bit	8.1	1.4	AGP 8x
XP	AIW 8500DV	digital version	230 MHz	128 bit	8.1	1.4	AGP 8x
XP-SP1	AIW 9000 Pro	pro line	275 MHz	128 bit	8.1	1.4	AGP 8x
XP-SP1	AIW 9200	base	250 MHz	128 bit	8.1	1.4	AGP8x
XP-SP1	AIW 9200 LE	limited edition	250 MHz	64 bit	8.1	1.4	AGP 8x
XP-SP2	AIW 9500	base	277 MHz	128 bit	9.0	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP2	AIW 9600	base	324 MHz	128 bit	9.0	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP2	AIW 9600 Pro	pro line	400 MHz	128 bit	9.0	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP2	AIW 9600 XT	xtreme edition	527 MHz	128 bit	9.0	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP2	AIW 9700 Pro	pro line	325 MHz	256 bit	9.0	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP2	AIW 9800 Pro	pro line	378 MHz	256 bit	9.0	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP2	AIW 9800 SE	standard edition	378 MHz	128 bit	9.0	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP2	AIW X600	base	400 MHz	128 bit	9.0	2.0	1.1
XP-SP2	AIW X800	base	500 MHz	128 bit	9.0b	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP2	AIW X800 VE	value edition	425 MHz	128 bit	9.0b	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP2	AIW X800 XL	xpress line	400 MHz	256 bit	9.0b	2.0	1.1
XP-SP2	AIW X800 GT	global terresterial, EU	400 MHz	128 bit	9.0b	2.0	1.1
XP-SP2	AIW X800 XT	xtreme edition	500 MHz	256bit	9.0b	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP3	AIW 2006 Edition	xpress line	400 MHz	128 bit	9.0c	2.0	1.1
XP-SP3	AIW 2006 Edition AGP	xtreme edition	324 MHz	128bit	9.0c	2.0	AGP 8x
XP-SP3	AIW X1800 XL	xpress line	500 MHz	256 bit	9.0c	2.0	1.1
XP-SP3	AIW X1900 XL	xpress line	500 MHz	256 bit	9.0c	2.0	1.1
Vista	AIW HD	high def	722 MHz	128 bit	10.1	3.3	2

Some of that is definitely NOT accurate.
The biggest issue is the PCI and PCIe information.
- The lowest 128 card had issues, don't try to use it for video capture.
- The 7000 series worked on ME/2000/XP. I should know, I did it.
- From our talks in the past year or so, I've come to realize the PCIe cards are using drivers that are sort of backwards compatible DX10>DX9 drivers. The PCIe cards that always given me grief, and the drivers are the problem. The hardware compression and onboard audio are terrible, the lack or proper dropped frames counter in MMC is a deal-breaker for MPEG capture, and 704 image offset is a nuisance.

Install issues are almost always system-based, hardware conflicts. My recent install of this card in my dev box results in reversed chroma. On 1st install, it was fine. After adding other capture card drivers to the system, it was reversed. Reinstalled, still reversed. It's a dev/test box, so I'll just wipe it soon, reinstall XP. I have Win7 and Win10 slated for install as well, on separate drives. The ability to wipe is a main reason for capturing to dedicated system, not just because it's offline dedicated to the capture task.

Which exact ISO?
I have others. I need to uploaded those.

The one titled 'ATI All-In-Wonder Setup (180-V01084-100).iso'

Another problem that might be related is i nearly always get this error message upon start up.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/atta...1&d=1560906840

I only started getting it after i placed the ATI card in the AGP slot, but at the same time i also took the SATA cable out from the optical drive and into one of the hard drives (since the motherboard only has 2 slots) I've ordered an adaptor though which should be here any day now. So i'm not sure if it's one or the other that's causing this message to appear. I have to go into the BIOS menu, press ESC then boot from HDD to bypass the error to start up Windows, since pressing F1 as stated does nothing.

However after uninstalling SP2 as Jwillis suggested, restarted the computer and this popped up.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/atta...1&d=1560909339

So looks like SP2 was blocking something along the way, but since this PC wont be connected to the internet i couldn't download the driver update, but then i assume it's the ATI anyway, so closed the box and launched the ISO and tried installing again, but to no success. It's still not fully installing.

I believe the "out of the ATI box" 9000 Pro, cdrom is labeled

200+DVD
180-G01445-200
Made in Canada, Copyright 2002

The driver is looking for these hardware signatures:

"ALL-IN-WONDER 9000" = ati2mtag_RV250, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4966&SUBSYS_4F721002
"ALL-IN-WONDER 9000 - Secondary" = ati2mtag_RV250, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_496E&SUBSYS_4F731002

The ATI MMC version on the original disk is MMC8.1
The DirectX installer included on the disk is 9.0

Later and earlier versions of ATI MMC generally work, they are looking for DirectX interfaces to act as gofers to find capture devices. But the original software will be more aware and better matched for that specific card.

LordSmurf has "deep" and "thorough" experience in extracting the very best performance from these cards. He knows them inside and out far better than I do.

But as a baseline, the above information is what came with my ATI 9000 Pro.

BTW: The SM Bus controller is part of the chipset driver for the motherboard. If there is not a chipset driver for your motherboard that works with that version of XP it will remain unidentified. SM - Systems Management, is usually for temperature monitoring and fan control. BIOS can set the fan to a static speed, but an SM driver lets the operating system measure temperature and ramp the fan speed up and down as necessary.

Update: I found a cdrom labeled

100+DVD
180-V01084-100
Made in USA, Copyright 2004

The driver is looking for these hardware signatures:

"ALL-IN-WONDER 9000 SERIES" = ati2mtag_M9, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4C66&SUBSYS_4F721002

The ATI MMC version on this disk is MMC8.8
The DirectX installer included on the disk is 9.0a

It "should" work, but appears to be the cdrom included with the ATI 9800 since the driver inf file mentions that model.

"DO" take note that the hardware identifier is "different" however.

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4966&SUBSYS_4F721002
(not)
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4C66&SUBSYS_4F721002

DEV_4966
(vs)
DEV_4C66

You could go into the Device Manager and right click any yellow safety cone icons and go to Properties > Details
Drop down to Hardware Ids and see what your cards hardware identifier is.

It may be that its hardware id matches a different cdrom image for the ATI 9000, or that this later version of the driver has a typo in the distribution cdrom hardware id since it was intended for the ATI 9800 card and the ATI 9000 may have been long off the market by release.. so no one bothered to catch the typo.

BTW: you can "force" a driver to be installed for a device manually by right clicking an unidentified hardware device and selecting "Let me choose" and pointing at the driver directory, then unchecking the list "compatible" drivers box.. this will (override) matching the hardware ids, and gets around manually editing the inf file to make it match your hardware id. Its not easy.. and I am not sure I would recommend it.. it can be a hard to recall procedure and reproduce later. But the benefit (might) be a newer driver (unlikely trustworthy if they had an uncaught typo in the installer file) and a newer version of MMC8.8 as opposed to MMC8.1 - but you can also mix and match MMC versions outside of the installer.. its just another hard to recall procedure. (My recommendation) would be to use the original boxed cdrom image and let the installer do all the work.

Ah so it's the wrong ISO file, going by the copyright year 2004. The 9000 came out some time before that, 2002 i think. Wish i had the original CD ROM it came with, but i got the card itself fairly cheap on an auction.

I couldn't see any Details tab in the Device Manger properties to see the Hardware Ids.

I am certain LordSmurf has a copy. He has vast archives of material.

But I can make an iso file image of the cdrom if needed and upload it.

The only thing about using the 2002 cdrom is I'd recommend using XP-SP1 before applying the SP2 service pack, and making sure you know the Device Driver version numbers both before applying the SP2 and after.. in case you have to hit the [Rollback] button to get back to the newer device driver. Like I did with the "ATI USB2.0 N".. it may not occur with your card.. but it may.

-- merged --

I found two ATI 9000 Pro cards, one was still sealed in its box with shrink wrap.

The shrink wrapped card cdrom was labeled:
180_G01445_100

The non-shrink wrapped card cdrom was labeled:
180_G01445_200

The contents of each cdrom appear identical as close as I can see. The Hardware ids in the .inf files also appear identical.

I do not know what the difference between the two are, but some of the directories on the 100 disk have a date stamp from 2/2003, those same directories on the 200 disk have some with date stamp from 6/2003.

My guess is there is a difference, but that it would be minor. I could do a Beyond compare of this discs or a binary compare.. but I don't have the time right now.

Instead I made disc images of each cdrom and uploaded them as rar attachments to this message.

You probably only need one of them. But your welcome to both.

The choice of which to use is up to you.

Based on the date stamps, XP or XP with SP1 installed are probably what was available at the time the installers were developed. And that is probably what they tested the installer with.

XP without SP1 is kind of hard to use, its got a few bugs.

Don't try installing any version of .NET before you try to run the ATI installer from the cdrom. Also don't try installing any version of DirectX 9.0 (I think) all of those that are required are on the cdrom and will be installed as needed. And they would be the versions that were tested with the ATI installer.

"Newer" is not better in this case, because "newer" means they had an opportunity to add features and take away features and that breaks the reliability of the testing performed on the ATI installer when it shipped.

Good luck

Thanks for those files. Unfortunately when i run either, it spat up this error.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/atta...1&d=1561016937

And yes, i have SP1 installed and .NET Framework uninstalled.

The most common one cited as the problem is for %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Desktop

Create the folder "Desktop" in c:\documents and settings\all users\

Then reboot and try to run the ATI installer again.

Refer to the attached file if that does not work, Page 2 - For Windows NT, 2000 and XP Users

There is already a folder called Desktop in that location.

Looked through the attached PDF, and checked through but all seems normal.

I think i'll try doing a clean install of Windows and re-installing everything again but i'll wait until the SATA adaptor arrives as don't currently have my optical drive hooked up as mentioned earlier.

I've a system I can quickly restore XPHSP0 and try an install with each.

I'll try it now and report back.

-- merged --

XP Home no Service Pack installed

Using the 180-G01445-100

Install completed without error

I setup the TV application and it displays static, as expected

I can think of twelve permutations to try to "force" the error message you are seeing.

Could you help me out by selecting the case that matches yours the closest?

Home
1. XPHSP0 + 180-G01445-100 (tried succeeded without error)
2. XPHSP0 + 180-G01445-200
3. XPHSP1 + 180-G01445-100
4. XPHSP1 + 180-G01445-200
5. XPHSP2 + 180-G01445-100
6. XPHSP2 + 180-G01445-200

Professional
1. XPPSP0 + 180-G01445-100
2. XPPSP0 + 180-G01445-200
3. XPPSP1 + 180-G01445-100
4. XPPSP1 + 180-G01445-200
5. XPPSP2 + 180-G01445-100
6. XPPSP2 + 180-G01445-200

assuming (no XP 64 bit versions or Win2003 Server versions are involved, and no multilinguals or nationals are added)

any details would help

i'll try restoring then adding SP1, SP2 and keep stepping through the possibilities

-- merged --

Home
1. XPHSP0 + 180-G01445-100 (tried succeeded without error)
2. XPHSP0 + 180-G01445-200
3. XPHSP1 + 180-G01445-100 (tried failed, aticim.bin event 1000)
3. XPHSP1 + 180-G01445-100 (changed cpu date to 2003, tried succeeded without error)
4. XPHSP1 + 180-G01445-200
5. XPHSP2 + 180-G01445-100
6. XPHSP2 + 180-G01445-200

have to stop now, will pickup tomorrow evening

Well i've tried all these combinations but still getting the same error every time.

Professional
1. XPPSP0 + 180-G01445-100
2. XPPSP0 + 180-G01445-200
3. XPPSP1 + 180-G01445-100
4. XPPSP1 + 180-G01445-200
5. XPPSP2 + 180-G01445-100
6. XPPSP2 + 180-G01445-200

Are the ISO files both 651mb?

180_G01445_100.ISO 666,870 KB
180_G01445_200.ISO 666,864 KB

You should try to set the Clock on the PC back to the year 2003.

Some of the certificates in the installers appear to have expired by 2019.

There are differences between XP Home and XP Professional.

XP Home was usually targeted as a Gamers platform and these cards tended to be bought for gaming.

XP Professional was not a superset of XP Home, trade offs were made to change the value equation. And defaults were different in several components.

I will switch to using XP Professional for testing.

It will take a little time, XP Professional is a "fussier" install than XP Home.

Disregard that, just XP declaring incorrect file sizes, shows the correct size on Windows 10.

Tried going back to 2003, but that didn't seem to do anything either.

Hmm, perhaps it's a problem with Professional itself.

will resume testing this evening

P could be the issue, we will see

-- merged --

Professional
1. XPPSP0 + 180-G01445-100 (tried succeeded without error)
2. XPPSP0 + 180-G01445-200
3. XPPSP1 + 180-G01445-100 (tried succeeded without error)
4. XPPSP1 + 180-G01445-200
5. XPPSP1a+ 180-G01445-100 (failed, tried again, succeeded distorted video window)
6. XPPSP1a+ 180-G01445-200
7. XPPSP2 + 180-G01445-100 (fails with ATI CIM conflict with USER32.dll)
8. XPPSP2 + 180-G01445-200

The simplest install is with XP Professional with No Service Pack applied. That glides to success each time.

The next simplest is XP Professional with the (genuine) Service Pack 1. That succeeds with no errors each time.

Microsoft released an update to the Service Pack 1 called Service Pack 1a and did a fair job of scrubbing downloads of the (genuine) and original Service Pack 1 from the internet.

It is a bit hard to find these days. Service Pack 1a "appears" almost the same size.. but is known as their second take on Service Pack 1 and they changed a lot of things. This shows up as instability and general modifications to the default settings for many applications.

I did not test with SP1a the previous night on XP Home, but would expect similar distorted and unpredictable install behavior.. sometimes it succeeds, sometimes it fails.. it seems something in the background is on a variable time loop after SP1a is applied. Once it does succeed, the video window is shrunk from Full size to a postage stamp. It can be readjusted.. but a guess is Microsoft changed the APIs in SP1a and the Installer from ATI was relying on "stable" APIs not to change in a revised SP1a.

I would very much recommend (not) using SP2 with this card.

And if SP2 has ever been on the system it cannot truly be removed, so start over with a fresh install of XP

-- merged --

I am quite surprised by these results!

Professional
1. XPPSP0 + 180-G01445-100 (success)
2. XPPSP0 + 180-G01445-200 (fail)
3. XPPSP1 + 180-G01445-100 (success)
4. XPPSP1 + 180-G01445-200 (fail)
5. XPPSP1a+ 180-G01445-100 (fail/success)
6. XPPSP1a+ 180-G01445-200 (fail)
7. XPPSP2 + 180-G01445-100 (fail)
8. XPPSP2 + 180-G01445-200 (success)

In other words

1. XPPSP0 + 180-G01445-100 (success)
2. XPPSP1 + 180-G01445-100 (success)
3. XPPSP1a+ 180-G01445-100 (fail)
4. XPPSP2 + 180-G01445-100 (fail)

5. XPPSP0 + 180-G01445-200 (fail)
6. XPPSP1 + 180-G01445-200 (fail)
7. XPPSP1a+ 180-G01445-200 (fail)
8. XPPSP2 + 180-G01445-200 (success)

180-G01445-100 works for XP SP1 and SP0
180-G01445-200 works for XP SP2

The last three digits "appear" to indicate the Service Pack they were tested with or intended to work with.

Checking after 180-G01445-200 was installed on XPP+SP2 reveals the ATI drivers from the ATI Installer were installed (and removed the Microsoft boxed drivers). It put back the older ATI drivers that work, simplifying the install if you already have SP2 installed.

I'll go back to testing with XP Home and see if this confirms the theory.

-- merged --

This has been confirmed for both XP Home and XP Professional edition:

180-G01445-100 works for XP SP1 and SP0
180-G01445-200 works for XP SP2 and SP3

-- merged --

I never got the same error message you did when installs failed.

Once you select the appropriate version 100 for XP with SP1 or 200 for XP with SP2

You may still get the same error you experienced before.

However I noticed you have some type of antivirus running in your XP system tray, the Life Preserver indicates something running that is probably blocking the Installer.

Disable the antivirus and see if you can run (the appropriate) installer for your version of XP.

I think it will succeed without producing an error.

I don't know about the life preserver icon, but the previous post shows an image with the XP "Found New Hardware Wizard" and the ATI installer running at the same time. Never install an ATi-AIW product with the Found New Hardware Wizard.

Uninstall the ATi software if anything was installed. Delete the ATI program folder. Check the Device Manager in Control Panel and uninstall any hardware reference to an ATi card, if it exists. Reboot the PC. When the Found New Hardware Wizard starts, turn it off. Start the ATI installer separately, by itself.

I've been racking my brains trying to recall who used the Life preserver icon.. I think it was an early version of AVast or some other antivirus that had a Pirate sounding name.

The same icon was often used for Help or Info, but in the start menu, not in the systray. The systray was reserved for "running" programs.. so I feel sure there is something running there. I simply don't know for sure what it is.

The 800 error message by the installer was a generic "catch all" error message which didn't ford much information other than it was blocked or had stopped gracefully. A different catastrophic C++ message from a Catch Try Fail block would have returned a much ruder and intolerant message if it wasn't something simple like a file access denied.. which is what antivirus specialized in.

WinMerge is your friend. :wink2:

Well things got a bit busy.. so put this on the back burner for a while (can't believe it has been 6 months!) anyway hope to continue were we left off.

Still not getting anywhere with this. Getting the same error everytime. Tried doing a clean install of Windows, but can't get the CD to boot up.

And that program in the taskbar isn't an antivirus, but a program called Gizmo, used to mount the ISO and launch the installation file.

Master Tape i did use the drivers and MMC 8.8 that is on the disc 180-V01084-100 on my Ati All in wonder 9000 and i use WinXP PRO SP2 when i install it

i did not have any problem when i did install it



here POST nr 20 http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...html#post14940


one more thing i have noticed if you have installed the drivers and you have a exclamation mark in device manager on the drivers then you have to shut down the computer and unplug it from the wall socket or turn off it from the power supply and then press the computers power button so it empty all the power from the computer then you can start the computer again :)

Thanks for your suggestion jjdd, I decided to burn the ISO file to a CD this time and installed it from there, looked like everything was going well, but still didn't get a confirmation message at the end. Is an ATI program supposed to appear in the start menu, or are the drivers already installed somewhere so i can just capture via VirtualDub?

Still getting the yellow exclamation mark in the device manager, even after i did the power off method you suggested.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/error.gif

ok hmm you only need graphics card driver + WDM drivers for VirtualDub to work

is the yellow exclamation mark on the graphics card driver or on the WDM drivers

when i did have yellow exclamation mark it was on the WDM drivers but the power down reboot did fix it

hmm try to uninstall the WDM drivers from device manager and then do the power down reboot thing again and then start the computer again

and if that does not work test other WDM driver versions


i did have little problem to install ati all in wonder 9200 but i did get it to work and it did work as good as my ati all in wonder 9000

hmm here you have some other version of GPU driver + WDM driver to test

https://www.philscomputerlab.com/ati...r-archive.html

hmm for me this site was good to see what version works with what cards but i do not think you can download from there but you get info what the file name is then you can google it and download if from some site
http://www.amd-drivers.com/amd-ati-d...sion-list.html

Here's how the Device Manager looks to show the problem.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/atta...1&d=1578515090

I assume the Video Controller refers to the graphic card?

I have my VCR hooked up to the capture card, but Virtual Dub isn't picking up a video source when i go to Capture AVI, so it clearly isn't working.

You might be better off downloading and running Snappy Driver

I normally install Windows XP using Easy2Boot from a USB flash drive and a Retail ISO file.

Then I copy the installer for Snappy Driver over with a USB stick and run that to find and update all of the device drivers.

Snappy Driver is "free" as in Beer.

The Full version is 17 GB

The Lite version is much smaller and only includes critical drivers like Ethernet and Wifi for getting online, after that it can pull only what it needs from the Internet for the devices that it detects.

Myself.. I choose to not check or (disallow) Snappy Driver installing device drivers for the ATI cards and ATI capture devices , but let it find drivers and updated drivers for everything else.

This leaves Device Manager showing only the ATI All in Wonder needs a driver.

Then I insert the ATI driver disk and run that installer.

USB devices depend on a chain of device drivers that include the motherboard device drivers, the USB Host controller device drivers and the USB protocol drivers.. before it can even "see" that an ATI USB device is connected. Snappy Driver takes care of building out that bridge.

Then the ATI All in Wonder CDROM takes care of finishing off the device drivers specific to whats attached to the end of the cable.

In (Ye Olden Days)

A computer in those days would come with a motherboard driver CDROM, which you had to insert and install from after installing the bare minimum Windows XP install. Microsoft did not have device drivers for every motherboard invented. And USB Host controllers were a device "invented" after XP was launched.. so it had no native in the retail box drivers for a USB Host controller.. you (always) had to install a USB Host controller driver separate from the Windows XP installation. If your motherboard was "new enough" to have USB built into the motherboard.. they sometimes bundled the USB Host controller device driver on the motherboard CDROM.. but not always.

Snappy Driver cuts through all that confusion and simply gets what you need and pulls it down and installs it for you. Even if you can no longer find the motherboard CDROM discs.. its become critically important for retro PC builders.

Here is a picture of my all in wonder 9200 but it looks about the same for the 9000 in device manager

Red Color = Graphics card Drivers and version

Green Color = WDM Drivers and version

The ATI graphics drive must be installed first. Then all the ATI WDM drivers can be installed.

I need to see the expanded Sound, Video, Game panel.

Well i've now done a clean install of XP, so we now have a blank canvas, running SP0. My optical drive wasn't functioning properly due to being connected to the SATA adaptor (which according to the manual is only supposed to be used with hard drives..) but it's also good for providing power to fans.

Where can i find the specific graphics driver?

Thanks for suggesting Snappy Driver, it was a big help getting most of the drivers installed!

After all that, i tried the 180-G01445-100 disc and still with the error. I then tried a disc with 180-V01084-100 and it seemed to install fine.. but the computer just doesn't seem to recognise it as drivers for the VGA.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/atta...1&d=1578673106

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/atta...1&d=1578672734

try to install graphic card manually

like this https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...s-drivers.html

or like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ToDacCmzS8

but i do always like in the first link i post this one https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...s-drivers.html

when you get the graphic card drivers to work then the extra devices on the graphic card pop up in the device manager and does are the capture thing on the card and it needs the WDM drivers

That motherboard (Asrock 775i65G) has a separate Intel Extreme2 graphics adapter "built-into" the chipset.

I see the same thing in Device Manager many times when I install an ATI All in Wonder.

The BIOS is supposed to switch over to using the Graphics Card which has the cable plugged into the monitor and disable the graphics card without a monitor cable. You can't have two graphics adapters active in the system at the same time.

The Intel Extreme 2 graphics adapter requires a special device driver that comes with the motherboard since its part of the chipset. Without that special device driver, it will use the generic "in box" VGA driver (or try to..) if it fails then it will simply note it with a yellow safety cone.

I think the solution will be to check the back of the computer to see where you have your monitor plugged in, and make sure its plugged into the correct video card, restart the computer and try again.

The VGA video driver is downloadable here:

VGA driver ver:14.17.0.4396

Ah that must be it then!! I wondered why Snappy Driver was pulling up Intel graphic drivers rather than ATI drivers.. Makes sense now. Having looked at the back of my computer my VGA cable was plugged into the motherboard, the AIW graphics card has a DVI port, so i'll need to find/order an adaptor from somewhere.

svideo.com will have what you need in the DVI section

you can also get one from from Amazon if your in a hurry

DVI to vga adapter, its passive and cheap


svideo.com is a good site to visit because they carry a lot of specialized ATI cables no place else still has stock

I just got one cheap off ebay, should do the job. Only issue i'm having now is trying to install the huffyuv.dll file. The read me text file says to right click and press Install, but it doesn't give me that option.

I didn't catch the version of Windows your using.

But..

Lordsmurf's links warned, be sure your right clicking on the .Inf file and not the .DLL file.

(Also) before you do that be sure to right click and look for a button at the bottom that says [Unblock] sometimes, with certain versions of windows the antimalware feature will automatically [Block] any action with a file without telling you. Don't worry if the [Unblock] button is not there.. then you aren't running that version of windows.

Ah yes, that's where i went wrong! Thanks alot :)

Ok i've plugged the monitor into the ATI card, but i had to plug my motherboard into another monitor so i could actually see what was going on! But then i guess that defeats the purpose.. How do i install the ATI software if i can't see anything on the monitor?

I installed the Intel VGA driver, then the ATI 180-V01084-100 driver, restarted, but assuming it still isnt on properly if Device Manager is now displaying this.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/atta...1&d=1581554716

The BIOS will be set to autodetect if another monitor is plugged into the onboard VGA connector and "steal" the video output and disable the ATI 9000 output until that card is turned on by extending the screen to mirror or extend to the Secondary ATI 9000 video card.

I don't recommend you do that, it can get very very confusing.

Disconnect the mother board from the other monitor and let the system boot up. It may take longer before the ATI 9600 output begins displaying on the monitor, but it should eventually show up, even if there is no ATI driver installed. Windows will simply detect it and assume its a plain VGA card.

From that it will run in low resolution, but you should be able to insert the ISO or CDROM and run the installer to "replace" the default Windows VGA driver with the real ATI 9000 device driver and the screen should change resolutions to something much higher.

A better faster way of seeing the BIOS screen is to pause or escape during the start up and get into BIOS and set the Video priority to the AGP card and turn off the onboard video.. so its by-passed entirely on startup. This is better for many reasons, its faster to start up, the video goes immediately to the ATI 9000, the onboard video doesn't steal motherboard ram for video use and its less confusing when using the ATI 9000 you have plugged in. Its also swifter when performing video capture since the onboard video output isn't competing for CPU cycles.. slowing everything in the system down.

I disabled the onboard graphics card in Device Manager, restarted computer, entered the BIOS, changed init. graphic adaptor priority from PCI/AGP to AGP/PCI, saved changes and exited, pulled out VGA cable from motherboard, waited an hour or two but nothing is showing up on the other monitor that's plugged into the ATI video card.

May be it’s broken.