Open MPEG Movie in MPEG-VCR doesn't work?
OK, so I'm a total newbie with this application and I managed to fall at the first hurdle. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag.../04/oops-1.gif
The help file states that "The editor brings up a new video player for every successful open operation." but it does not give any indication as to what could be wrong when as in my case nothing happens, not even an error message. What have I missed? Should I point to a external video player somewhere? Second question: My first project is to edit a DVD that a friend recorded for me from TV where I only want half an hour in the middle of the two hour recording. When I read the guides on this site I had the impression that I needed to use DVD Decrypter first but as that produced a VOB file which is the same type as on the original DVD I'm not sure I understand why? http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag...04/think-1.gif |
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When you use DVD Decrypter in "IFO mode", you extract usable non-split VOB files. Homemade DVDs can be safely and easily edited from this point, as the nav data is very basic, and the audio formats are almost always PCM, MPEG layer, or Dolby. Commercial/retail DVDs, on the other hand, tend to have more "stuff" in the VOB files, making them harder to edit, thereby requiring extra extraction steps. SIDE NOTE: A lot of people make the bad choice of simply extracting the 1GB VOB files, and re-attaching them in an editor. However, there will almost always be a noticeable glitch at the merge points, as this is not proper editing methodology. This wrong method also commonly leads to audio sync problems. The videos need to be extracted and re-merged via IFO navigation data (hence "IFO mode" in DVD Decrypter), and not by the file breaks. If you ripped a homemade DVD in your computer, and ended up with a single VOB files, that's good! (Or multiple VOB files if it was an episode-style DVD. That's less common for homemade work, unless it's TV recordings.) What you have here is an MPEG video file + audio, stored inside a VOB container/wrapper file. Simply drop that VOB file into MPEG-VCR, and it should open without issues. I constantly edit extracted discs in both Womble MPEG-VCR* and Womble MPEG Video Wizard 4*. ---- (*Software names linked to their editing guides.) Was your problem trying to "open" (as in File > Open) the VOB file? If so, that's the whole problem. Refer back to the guides. Simply drag and drop the videos -- don't try to "open" anything. See how that works for you. :) |
I still had the MPEG-VCR application open and tried your advice, didn't work, but when I closed and reopened it drag and drop suddenly worked. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag...1/04/yes-1.gif
Although I must confess I can't see any reference to drag and drop in the Remove Footage with Womble MPEG-VCR guide. It does state: Quote:
This editing without re-encoding is a very good thing which leads to a follow-up question although I will let you decide if it merits its own thread. If I don't want to do anything with the now edited segment other than burn it to a new DVD, is it possible to do that without re-encoding and if so what software can handle that? I mean it sort of already is encoded for DVD purposes, isn't it, and the less processing you have to do the better. I do have DVD authoring applications, some paid for and some free-ware but I'm not sure if anyone of them would do that or if re-encoding is still necessary. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag...04/think-1.gif |
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The editor drew this guide up some time ago- it is easily accessible from the home page side bar:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/guides/vid...-workflows.htm I highly recommend using the "search" function at the site here with what you seek to learn...The forums date back at least 6 years and all the questions/answers/posts are archived. There's an absolute treasure trove of info to be mined there! Excellent teaching and resource tool, check it out! Hope this helps you... |
If you like that workflows guide now, you're going to be blown away by the one being developed for v3 of this site. That will be one of the earliest updates given sometime in May/June. The 'Understanding Your Source' guide is also being expanded considerably, along with a gigantic restoration FAQ/intro guide.
Stay tuned. :) Some of the most advanced restoration techniques are only going to be available to Premium Members, in the Premium Member forum. So both of you have something nifty to look forward to. |
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I'm not disappointed by that, the information is there for free and guides get outdated, but without asking the question here I would have been stumped. Asking the question sorted it out quickly. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag...1/04/yes-1.gif Quote:
I had a look at the Video Guides > DVD Authoring > Introduction and also found this thread and I must admit I do get a bit lost, not least because Corel's own web site and renaming of products makes it hard to understand what's going on. So I'm afraid I have to keep asking questions, if that's all right. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag.../biggrin-1.gif From my present level of knowledge I see it as this. 1. I have a mpeg file and would like to burn a DVD from it. To do that I need an authoring software, but is there one that doesn't re-encode it? If so which ones would you recommend? 2. I have a non-mpeg and would like to burn a DVD from it. In this case encoding as well as authoring needs to be done. What workflow and software world you suggest here? I don't know if Corel still sell Ulead DVD Workshop 2 which is recommended in the thread I linked to. It looks like it on some parts of their site but not on other parts. I do have Ulead Movie Factory 6 and could upgrade to Version 7 if you recommend it. Quote:
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Most other free MPEG "joiners" literally do that. You get a file that behaves in weird ways in media players (the scroll bar at the bottom usually doesn't work) and DVD Workshop 2 chokes on them as well. The resulting DVDs act in strange ways. |
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There was also a Two-pass conversion option just below it. I left that checked because if it's not an MPEG file I do want it to be two-pass as I suspect that gives a better quality result. Then I started the burning (or rather creation of an ISO file). However this took just as long as it usually does http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag...4/taptap-1.gif so I cancelled, went back and unchecked the Two-pass option and this time it was much quicker, like 3-4 minutes. Don't understand why it does a Two-pass conversion when it supposed to do none at all. A bit contradictory I think. This advice more or less solves my first question but I'm still interested in the answer to the second one. Since authoring in my case can be done with Ulead Movie Factory 6 what remains of the second question is what software you recommend for converting non-MPEG files to MPEG files. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag...04/think-1.gif |
If you want to add some forum smilies, I'll be glad to add them. :)
Just small ones, like you've been using. Just the few good ones you like most -- don't drown me. Put them in a RAR or ZIP file, attach to a post, and I'll enter them. I'll admit, you have some rather good/useful ones so far. That'll eliminate the need to link to those photobucket/imgshack type sites, which are known to delete files at a whim. (Then this site will have a bunch of broken img links.) Quote:
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(1) What is the source? -- Something you swiped from Youtube, downloaded off something shady (no details, please), came out of your AVC camera, your DV camera, captures from a VCR, etc. (2) Budget? I always go for the most cost effective solutions. Sometimes that's free, sometimes it's $2,000. And then (3), bonus question, How impatient are you? TMPGEnc Plus, for example, can be quite good for certain uses, but it's not a super-duper fast encoder compared to something like MainConcept Reference. Inversely, some fast cheap encoders lack quality. (Most of them, actually.) My main computer, a laptop, is more or less devoid of video software. It just has a few essentials. Video and audio is on other systems (desktops, mostly), which can encode all day/night, week long, and I don't much care. I'm in no hurry. It's not like I'm waiting to use the computer for something else. It does what it does, and I do what I do on a separate computer. So think that over. |
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That's a brilliant answer. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag.../04/clap-1.gif Well structured, so it forces me to structure my thoughts too. (Not all that easy with my Attention Deficit Disorder. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag...4/giggle-1.gif) I'll be back, though it might take a couple of days or even longer. You won't get rid of me that easy. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag...1/04/lol-1.gif I'll come back to you about the smiles too. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag...1/04/yes-2.gif So I have given it some thought and tried to structure my answer accordingly. Sources.
Type of editing.
Target not DVD. If you're not making a DVD what is generally the best filetype considering quality, size and last but not least compatibility, i.e. make it playable on most people's (i.e my non video-savvy friends computers). Target DVD.
Budget. I feel that professional, very expensive software would be a bit wasted on me, wouldn't understand half the options anyway http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag...4/giggle-1.gif, so the cheaper, consumer targeted software is probably the way to go for me. Having said that it's still OK with the high-end of the consumer targeted software if you know what I mean. Here's a list of software I already have. Some I have used very often, some hardly at all. A mixture of paid for and freeware.
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It's freeware. Windows Media Player is worthless for video playback. Quote:
As a Premium Member, you'll soon have access to some of our own tasteful and simple templates that we've used for client projects, or even our various personal projects. Quote:
Avidemux is another one you should add. ... will add more later. :) |
I'll wait for your "more later" post before I come with my follow up questions. Just wanted to add that my yet unopened VCR/DVD Combo is Philips DVDR3510v/58 where I think the v/58 part stands for northern Europe.
Here's a short 3-page specification in PDF-format ----> http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/d/d...58_pss_aen.pdf |
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