digitalFAQ.com Forum

digitalFAQ.com Forum (https://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/)
-   Restore, Filter, Improve Quality (https://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/video-restore/)
-   -   Is this ghosting, ringing, oversharpening? (https://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/video-restore/14119-ghosting-ringing-oversharpening.html)

iseevisions 02-17-2024 12:50 PM

Is this ghosting, ringing, oversharpening?
 
1 Attachment(s)
This is captured from a PAL VHS with a 1999 analog cable TV program recorded on.

Attachment 17478

What is best described as the edge issue?
Also what avisynth/vapoursynth filter/setting is best used to fix this?

aramkolt 02-17-2024 05:18 PM

If your capture setup allows for it, try changing the YC delay. If the chroma isn't aligned with luma exactly (which is actually fairly common) you'll see a single ghost image shifted usually to the right, more noticeable on brighter objects or at edges of high contrast areas. Also, is this a composite or S-Video Capture from the VCR? Not sure if that matters, but you might try capturing whichever you aren't currently capturing and seeing if there's a difference in the ghosting.

Feedbucket 02-17-2024 09:12 PM

Can probably be mitigated with something like vsLGhost.

lordsmurf 02-17-2024 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aramkolt (Post 94807)
the chroma isn't aligned with luma exactly

This video still sample here has "halo", or "ringing", not chroma offset. :2cents:

iseevisions 02-18-2024 04:07 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by aramkolt (Post 94807)
is this a composite or S-Video Capture from the VCR? Not sure if that matters, but you might try capturing whichever you aren't currently capturing and seeing if there's a difference in the ghosting.

Captured over s-video from a JVC HR S6800EH VCR to a matrox MXO2 mini.
I could also test from composite to see..., or another VCR perhaps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feedbucket (Post 94808)
vsLGhost

Yes I was already testing with several filters/settings like:

clip = haf. MCTemporalDenoise(clip,settings="low", edgeclean=True, stabilize=False, maxr=2)
clip = haf.DeHalo_alpha(clip)
clip = core.lghost.LGhost(clip, mode=1, shift=6, intensity=-10)
clip = haf.YAHR(clip)

But I can't get it to go away...

Attached a short sample video for anyone interested to play with:

Selur 02-18-2024 07:34 AM

You might also want to try, BindDeHalo3 (and adjust the settings)

Feedbucket 02-18-2024 10:04 AM

1 Attachment(s)
How about
Code:

mode=1, shift=2, intensity=-80
for LGhost? Softens the image but my understanding is oversharpening is what causes this in the first place.

iseevisions 02-19-2024 08:21 AM

Yes, that seems to make it less noticeable.

Not sure where the oversharpening comes from.. could be recorded that way back in the day or a problem with the VCR.
Have to change hardware and recapture to find out...


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:20 AM

Site design, images and content © 2002-2024 The Digital FAQ, www.digitalFAQ.com
Forum Software by vBulletin · Copyright © 2024 Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.