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Thermaltake 06-10-2025 05:16 AM

TBC EU plug, power current?
 
Hi, I was planning to buy AVT-8710, but I saw that it is US device which works on 120V input. I am from EU we have 220V input power here, any suggestion for some equivalent TBC like that one with EU current ?

ge0dude 06-10-2025 06:16 AM

You can find step down adapters for under $10 on your favorite online shopping site. The AVT-8710 works with NTSC, PAL, and SECAM.

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 06:23 AM

But I would need 220V to 120V step down adapter, and in my local store I only find 220V to 110V. Because as I saw original AVT-8710 adapter have 120V input.

ge0dude 06-10-2025 06:30 AM

110V is within spec. No worries. AC power is more of a range than a set voltage. When people want consistent power, they use power conditioners, which usually output a steady 117V. Go for it!

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 06:35 AM

Ok, thank you for the help :)

One more question on converter output is 110V - 50Hz, and adapter is working on 60Hz. Would that make any problem ? Will it convert to 60Hz somehow or ?

https://images.chipoteka.hr/image/ca...1155x1155.webp

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/DOcAA...Xm/s-l1600.jpg

ge0dude 06-10-2025 07:30 AM

It's rarely an issue but I don't want to say 100% non-issue because the avt-8710 is a more complex electronic device. Maybe someone has a better answer than my "probably not an issue but it's a possibility." -It is an expensive piece of kit there.

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 07:32 AM

I found on aliexpress converter that have written 50/60Hz on it, so If I get that one It will be ok.

ge0dude 06-10-2025 07:33 AM

Awesome. I just found this one:
https://www.chipoteka.hr/adapter-220...0v%20converter

but i'm sure the one on ali is cheaper.

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 07:39 AM

I think this one would be enough if I want to buy it from chipoteka, but on aliexpress is cheaper. 300w is way to much for something that don't even draw 20W :D

https://www.chipoteka.hr/adapter-220...105-8061400851

ge0dude 06-10-2025 07:42 AM

That one doesn't say anything about outputting 60Hz, probably a non-issue, but if you're spending so much money on the TBC, you should probably be on the safe side. If it were a simple circuit like a VCR cleaner, I would say go for it. But a TBC is a rare, pricey, deteriorated, and complex piece of equipment.

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ge0dude (Post 102971)
That one doesn't say anything about outputting 60Hz, probably a non-issue, but if you're spending so much money on the TBC, you should probably be on the safe side. If it were a simple circuit like a VCR cleaner, I would say go for it. But a TBC is a rare, pricey, deteriorated, and complex piece of equipment.

It's not so much money, I found it very cheap :D but of course I don't want to burn it hah plus it will be serviced completely new caps and everything that needs to be replaced. So it will be in better than factory condition.

ge0dude 06-10-2025 07:46 AM

Regardless of what you paid for it, it's worth quite a bit of money if it's in working condition. Maybe go for the ali option if its cheaper, as long as it outputs the right spec. Although I was disappointed recently by a cheap ali charger. LED lit like it would work, but when i plugged it in it would all shut off, even the LED. haha.

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 08:05 AM

I know, it is worth even more when serviced right. I'll try aliex. didn't have any problem before with any aliex stuff. I order a lot of it :D

lordsmurf 06-10-2025 10:01 AM

Do not buy a step converter, it adds noise to signals. It's complete unnecessary.

Which exact unit are you using? Is it exactly a green AVT-8710? If so, you don't need any step conversion at all. It's not a "US device" whatsoever.

I can tell you exactly what to get here. :)

Just confirm exact model and version of TBC.

I'll even get you an EU-compatible PSU for my costs and shipping, and will even test it on my own AVT-8710 (or whatever TBC model it is) before sending out. I've done that many times for others in this forum (for EU, US, UK, Australia, Israel, etc).

Just to be clear, this thing: https://www.chipoteka.hr/adapter-220...0v%20converter
100% useless here. Don't buy that.

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 10:07 AM

Green one it is AVT-8710. Don't know exact version didn't get it yet to check that.
I found a lot of adapter with 100-220V input and output 15V 600mAh but I couldn't find anywhere inner - out + pole on connector like original adapter has. I know you can reverse wires inside adapter, but if there is original adapter like that, that would be cool.

Gary34 06-10-2025 12:23 PM

At least you stopped and thought about it before just hooking it all up. I would go with what L.S. is saying. https://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vcr...vt-8710-a.html It’s easier to buy one from him on this and it doesn’t make sense to risk an expensive unit just to save a little bit on an adapter.

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 12:57 PM

Lordsmurf how much is charger with shipping to Croatia ?

lordsmurf 06-10-2025 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Thermaltake (Post 102981)
Lordsmurf how much is charger with shipping to Croatia ?

At this moment, PSU is $22 USD, plus shipping calculated to an exact address (PM it).

My AVT-8710 power "kit" includes an inline power switch, which you really do want on these AVT-8710s. Just yanking the power cord is never a good idea (and does eventually lead to problems). All my current pieces are new, and the PSU is brand-name (not Chinese knockoff junk that spews noise).

I even have 1 extra on-hand right now, so there's no waiting time to send it, to whoever wants to claim it.

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 01:57 PM

Can You tell us what brand of adapter you offer and give some picture if that's not such a big secret.

Gary34 06-10-2025 02:29 PM

The offering of the right power supply like that is him trying to preserve gear. He’s only charging 22 dollars. I doubt he’s making much off of chargers. It’s not like he’s marking them way up like Tgrant does.

One of the things I notice in eBay is when you talk to people they usually have some random charger then not for nothing plugged into there TBC.

lordsmurf 06-10-2025 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thermaltake (Post 102960)
Hi, I was planning to buy AVT-8710, but I saw that it is US device which works on 120V input. I am from EU we have 220V input power here, any suggestion for some equivalent TBC like that one with EU current ?

You need a 12V- power supply. Those can be 100V-240V, and come in all shapes of plugs. (The 15V- can be iffy if amps too high.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thermaltake (Post 102983)
Can You tell us what brand of adapter you offer and give some picture if that's not such a big secret.

PSU brand can vary on factors. What I have now is a specific APD. Outcome is 12V- power with a power switch, exactly what this specific TBC needs and wants..

It's not a "secret" but rather the fact that that photos show/prove nothing. It's completely about the performance, non-visual aspects.

If you want to see random photo of what an APD power supply looks like, use Google Image search.

The caveats of AVT-8710 TBC PSUs is something I only know from years of experience, and it's not easy to teach. Just trying to teach it would take a verbose novel, which is not something I have time to write. Even EEs don't know all the gotchas of this exact TBC (been there, done that).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary34 (Post 102984)
The offering of the right power supply like that is him trying to preserve gear. He’s only charging 22 dollars. I doubt he’s making much off of chargers. It’s not like he’s marking them way up like Tgrant does.

$22 for the PSU is literally costs rounded up. Maybe some coins in profit, whoop-de-doo.

EDIT: Actually, it's not even costs individually. Some of these items require buying in 5-packs, so my $22 cost is actually item/5, cheaper than one-off buying (but noting that one item in the kit is only sold in 2-packs or 5-packs).

I don't play the "I nEeD pIcTuRes!" game. I'm not some Facebook/etc random nobody. That's always a person trying to pump me for information, no intention of buying my gear (even when it's for costs, FFS!), not understanding (sometimes stubbornly) that (again!) images/photos prove nothing.

If anybody want to find a PSU themselves, then nothing more I can do for them.

Certain TBCs are temperamental. The wrong PSU = failed TBC, sometimes irreparable. The AVT-8710 have the added bonus of not having a power switch, and the dangers that entails, thus needing to be addressed.

For some people, "finding my own" works out, often because of dumb luck.
For others, it's FAFO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ge0dude (Post 102967)
complex electronic device.

I think, in another thread, you mentioned being an "audio guy". For this TBC, if all the parts are correct, polarity reversal cables are your friend. (If the wrong parts, keep a fire extinguisher nearby.)

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordsmurf (Post 102985)
You need a 12V- power supply. Those can be 100V-240V, and come in all shapes of plugs. (The 15V- can be iffy if amps too high.)


PSU brand can vary on factors. What I have now is a specific APD. Outcome is 12V- power with a power switch, exactly what this specific TBC needs and wants..



I have some input 100-240V output 12V 800 or 1000mAh adapters I'll just reverse polarity inside adapter and install inline power switch.

But I am wondering why did they put default 15V 600mAh then if it can be iffy ?

lordsmurf 06-10-2025 11:54 PM

Read my statement again. You answered your own question.

Thermaltake 06-10-2025 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordsmurf (Post 102990)
Read my statement again. You answered your own question.

Ok if amp is too high, but what if it's a bit more like 800 or original 600, that would be ok ?

Or you still rather recommend 12V with more amps instead of 15V whatever amp ?

Gary34 06-11-2025 12:19 AM

You could just try it and see how it goes.

Thermaltake 06-11-2025 12:56 AM

I have no problem in testing it when it arrives but until it does he said he did all kind of tests with that tbc, so I assume he test that too. So he can enlighten us for some knowledge.

Gary34 06-11-2025 01:35 AM

I still think the best bet would be to just buy the PSU from LS. It’s your choice though. Hopefully it goes well for you.

Thermaltake 06-11-2025 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary34 (Post 102995)
I still think the best bet would be to just buy the PSU from LS. It’s your choice though. Hopefully it goes well for you.

But I have a lot of 12V adapters at home... doesn't make sense to buy it from him. I just don't have one with 60Hz all EU are 50Hz, don't know if that will make any problem.
Just need reverse polarity and install inline power switch. But it won't hurt to know if he test it with 15V to know the stuff I asked.

Gary34 06-11-2025 02:12 AM

Quote:

But why would I buy something I have at home... doesn't make sense at all. Just need reverse polarity and install inline power switch. But it won't hurt to know if he test it before to know the stuff.
I’m using an OEM PSU and they are known to fail. If mine fails tomorrow then I am going to LS because to me it’s not worth the risk to save that little and potentially mess up an item that is worth as much as a recommended TBC. Then if I have to trouble shoot I know that it is an unknown variable. 20 bucks just isn’t worth the time I would spend thinking is this the issue? That’s just my point of view on it.

Maybe you know more about all of that though and it will work out. Good luck.

Thermaltake 06-11-2025 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary34 (Post 102997)
I’m using an OEM PSU and they are known to fail. If mine fails tomorrow then I am going to LS because to me it’s not worth the risk to save that little and potentially mess up an item that is worth as much as a recommended TBC. Then if I have to trouble shoot I know that it is an unknown variable. 20 bucks just isn’t worth the time I would spend thinking is this the issue? That’s just my point of view on it.

Maybe you know more about all of that though and it will work out. Good luck.

It won't be my first adapter to service or reverse polarity or install power switch on it. I was just eager to know his experience with all that voltages and amps.

ge0dude 06-11-2025 11:44 AM

If the shipping cost is a little out of reach for you right now, I would just wait until you have the money saved up. The last thing I would wanna do is ruin a rare recommended TBC.

Just for your edification, according to easyship.com, a 0.5lb package from California to Croatia would cost about $20 with tracking. And I'm sure it's less than 0.5lb. so you'll probably be in it for $40 tops.

Thermaltake 06-11-2025 12:45 PM

I'll see when unit arrives. I still don't have it. I will probably get adapter from LS if he will have one then, but need to get unit first.


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