Yep. :congrats:

I'm currently re-working the VCR listing. Thanks for your input. It helps. :salute:

I don't like combo decks. When one feature breaks, the whole unit is dead. You're honestly better off with a separate JVC S-VHS VCR, and some sort of DV converter. If you just want to gamble, and have a unit in mint condition, then go for it. Remember: no external TBC allowed.

^ This. :congrats:

Thanks for the reply, I am trying to understand this. So which is better to use?

likely = imprecisely
sure = yes

see screen...JVC HR DVS1 +2 + 3 ...instancing

D-VHS
since I only have 2 PAL models .... 14.1 Mbps on a 300-minutes of tape, so totally 21 hours.

rather program stream
Audio yes ... MPEG1 Layer 2
My two D-VHS only DV in..not a DV-out

Hi, i'm new to the forum but I've been researching this thread for a while. I hope I have posted in the right place and I wasn't meant to start a new thread.

I have a JVC HR-S7600 and i'm trying to convert an old cartoon on tape that wasn't released on DVD. I've had the tape for at least 15 years and every now and then while it's playing it has some lines come up across the screen with a heavy buzzing sound. I decided to buy another copy that hadn't been played to death, the new tape arrived and looked like new. I played the tape and the picture looked perfect with no lines or buzzing except now the audio sounds quiet and muffled. I noticed the video player displays differently when I put each tape in described below in the order of what happens:

Old tape: Flashes up 'SVHS' and 'BEST' and the two speakers under the audio level monitor stay displayed. The audio levels peak right to the top.

New tape: The two speakers under the audio level monitor disappear and 'norm' is displayed instead. A few seconds later 'BEST' is displayed but no 'SVHS'. The audio levels stay low.

I was wondering why the audio is muffled on the new tape and the settings change when the new tape appears to be in better condition and if there's anything I can try to get the audio in better quality.

Thanks

Would the JVC HR-S6970 considered good quality? It doesn't have TBC but would it be fine if I use the TBC on my capture box VMC-1 I like it because it is a multi standard VHS/S-VHS/S-VHS ET

The JVC HR-S 6970 is not a bad player, but depending on the tape I would also try a 2 or Panasonic.
Then the recorder outputs use the best picture.
VMC-1
....... this is the Edirol?
But that's not spend in DV-AVI.
S-Video in ........ TBC Settings ....... S-Video out.
The Edirol time was the competitor to the Canopus ADVC-300

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/234...rol-Vmc-1.html

Yes it is Edirol, I've used it and the TBC makes a quite a difference, I'm just questioning the quality of the S6970 compared to S7600 if we leave the TBC aside.

each make a comparison capture

In video editing program on track 1 and 2
Align frame accurate
To switch and control the interlaced control monitor differential filter

I'm doing something in Edius ... output S-Video with the Canopus NX card.
I can I get 2 movies in 2 different recorders quickly compare them here.

But I have shown only a few days ago comparisons of various TBC here with pictures.
Here are a few pictures, as many recorders or feeders are used, depending on the band.

Sometimes many recorder must be compared, as shown in Figure 3.
right in the picture.
Yes ... that's a lot of work
but so you know which feeder spends the best picture

Hi guys, I'm about to buy a VCR and following all your advices on the first post I searched really a lot online but I could find quite few vcr available in my area and still quite expensive

Anyway I really need a good one to save more than 100 old vhs

I could find:

Jvc HS-S 9850eu
Or
Jvc HM-DR 10000
Or
Panasonic NV-HS 1000
Or
Panasonic NV-HS 950

Which one would you suggest?

does the HM-DR 10000 worth the difference of price?

Thanks a lot

JVC HR S9850 is but the NTSC version?
JVC HR-S9800's my PAL model.
I had 3 pieces NV-HS950, all scrap

Currently on a Capture Station is a JVC HM-DR10000
A HS-1000 and the identical Pana AG4700 are here as a reserve.

You need luck to get a good recorder to

jvc's are good for commercial tapes (i have two of them one with tbc/dnr the other not) but for old tapes (possibly worn to death) i always heard pana are better because of the separate dnr/tbc system ..more flexibility

I think whs' would be quite worn due they are 25 years old and recorded by my father

So would it be better a Pana HS 1000 for them?
Or the Jvc HM-DR 10000 is the best choice possible?

Is The Pal Panasonic NV-HS 950 newer model than NV-HS 1000?
But is The 950 worse than 1000? (Seeing a lot of keep 1000 and resell 950)
Thanks guys

The line TBC is married to DNR on both the JVC and Panasonic.

Panasonic just has a tad less NR, but it has other caveats that make it different from JVC, and not better.

The term "DNR" is somewhat goofy to begin with, as most of the effects you see are simply line TBC in action. So a line TBC is a form of NR, visually speaking.

- Which one is in the best condition?
- Has the Panasonic been serviced or had caps replaced in the near past?
- Can you see some capture samples?

I realize the answers to these may not be easy to get, if at all. I want you to understand that part of buying video hardware is a gamble. While a certain model line may be better than others, the exact copy of it may be a dud. You see more Panasonic duds than JVC. But Panasonics may be better for your tape needs (ie, LP/SLP/EP modes).

It's not a bad deck, but it's not the best. Everything else you listed was better.

I'm not a huge JVC D-VHS fan. I prefer the 9600+ series S-VHS decks. Or when longer play is needed, the Panasonic decks.

Is the 950 newer than the 1000? I think so, but don't hold me to it. I do know that some models were not released sequentially. Release date has never been important, so I've never committed to long-term memory. The output quality mattered most. Both are fine. Newer isn't necessarily -- just look at the JVC decks.

I missed this post at the time. Oops. :o

The tape has physical damage. It was "eaten" at some point.

Was the JVC in mono mode? Sounds like it.

About the condition of the Vcr found, It seems well maintened but I can't be sure :(

I found a Jvc 9850eu at an accettable price, would it be a good choice?

I don't find any other 9xxx apart maybe the 9500

The 9850EU is on the recommended list. :wink2:

Correctly
I was wrong
and 9850 brought out of the camp

I saw it :D, but I meant if there is someone more recommended than others

That's it

I could find at about same price of the Jvc 9850eu even a Pana NV-HS 1000
Don't know which to buy

Hi, I've been surfing this site for a while now, and I went through some of the guides already, yet there are some very specific questions I'd like to do. Also, I'd like to congratulate you all, because this was really helpful as I did know nothing before I discovered the site.
Anyways, the first question I got is, what would you recommend me from these VCRs:

Panasonic NV - Fs200
Panasonic NV - Fs90
Panasonic AG-4700 S-vhs
Jvc HR-S3600EN

I know you might say the NV - FS200, because I saw it listed on the VCR Buying Guide on this site (though is the most expensive from the list, that's what's holding me back a bit), but what about the others? They all are S-Vhs VCRs right?
Why the others would not be recommended?
Regards.

What was the difference between the JVC SR-W5U and the SR-W7U?
I know the W5U didn't have a built-in tuner, but was that it?

Each behaves different. I prefer to use JVC for all tapes first, and use Panasonic when the JVC results are not to my liking. Note that sometimes neither are to my liking! PAL has no EP/SLP, so the difference is not as large as NTSC.

JVC 3600 is low-end, so no.
FS90 is weaker version of FS200, so no.
NV-HS1000 and AG-4700 are almost identical.

I believe so, yes.

I have just finished servicing a Panasonic HS900 S-VHS VCR so I thought I would share my findings.

This was made from 1996-1997 and was a semi-replacement for the HS1000. Inside it is the same K mechanism as the HS1000 but the layout is different without the edit controls on the drop down panel - it is less well equipped in that respect. It does not have TBC - this was next found on the HS950 of 1998. The HS900 has the same high quality heads as the HS1000 but the picture is a bit improved from that model as well as the drop-out compensation circuity does not show the grey lines on bad tapes like the HS1000. The HS900 has a soft/sharp rotary control which is helpful. LP playback is very good. It also has CVC (Crystal View Control) which analyses the tape to set sharpness. It works excellently but it can change the look of the image during playback so for copy and restoration it should be turned off.

All in all an excellent VCR with nice picture and sound but without TBC.

My JVC HR-9500U up at our cabin in Tahoe is giving me trouble and may need to be replaced. I primarily use it for playing ski films that never were released on DVD.

Quick Question: JVC HR-S9500U or JVC HM-DH5U? Never had a D-VHS machine and it would seem logical to go with it since the machine seems a bit higher end. But...do some of the 9000 series offer 'better' video results? Curious and thanks in advance!

The HM-DH5U has some issues that bother me. But I've never tried the other one, so it's entirely possible it does the same things.

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/3...uto-load%21%5D
http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/news...html#post42103

The S-VHS models are more flexible, in that they actually offer On/Off for the DNR&TBC while the D-VHS models have no switch. I have a tape that shows flagging with the DH5U, and because the TBC can't be disabled, the only option is playing in another VCR.

I have a Super VHS camcorder with built-in TBC. Is this good enough to capture VHS tapes on? How much better are the VCRs from the Buying Guide compared to ones not on the list? Will the untrained eye notice a difference?

Where can I purchase a recommended Super VHS? How can I make sure I don't get burned on eBay etc?

Hi, this is my first post, congratulation to all you for the grat work in this forum and for the advise and consult you give; hope someone can clarify some doubts.
In this buying list is not mentioned Blaupunkt RTV-966, is mentioned the RTV-965, which are the differences between these Blaupunkt model? RTV-966 is also a rebadge of Pansonic NV-HS 1000 (like RTV-965)? And anyway is a recommended model for capturing (my TV standard is PAL)?

I found one RTV-966 used in good condition, but before buy it I want be sure to not waste money in a vcr that does not meet the necessary requirements for good capturing.
Thanks.

Interesting! :congrats:

The D-VHS was interesting only because the stabilizer and TBC could be used simultaneously, while it was an either/or situation on the S-VHS deck. But aside from that one tidbit, the D-VHS and S-VHS unit behave (mostly) the same image-wise. There are quirks, both mechanically and feature-wise.

I'd never encountered that from high-knowledge D-VHS users of the 3K and 4K units. Does this exact D-VHS behave differently? Great VH threads. I wish you'd mirror that on this site. Users there seem to appreciate analog less and less, and this forum is only gaining traffic year after year.

- Camcorder? You mean the S-VHS-C models? Perhaps.
- Anything not listed is 95% of the time not desired. What model were you looking at?
- Visual differences are very obvious.
- TGrant Photo and the marketplace forum here is best.
- eBay can also be your friend. If it's not tested, or not used by somebody that knows video, run away. And "I plugged it in and light came on" or "I put in a VHS tape and saw a picture" is NOT a test! In most cases, that VCR is a huge POS.

Yes. Blaupunkt RTV-966 = Pansonic NV-HS 1000
The list has been updated now.

These VCRs are not in the recommended list: JVC HR-S7722, JVC HR-S8500, JVC HR-S8600 (PAL model). They are good enough as JVC HR-S7600? I should avoid Them?
Thanks.

Not sure precisely which part of my post you were referring to, but this user experienced the same flagging / tearing issue with his HM-DH40000U (that's 40K ;)). My other comment was about the fact that none of the JVC D-VHS models have a DNR&TBC switch, so it's always-on. I think you already knew that part.

I might, if you allow larger/wider image attachments. :D

How large does it need to be?
I think this ability is going to be part of the new forum overhaul currently ongoing.

Looks like my largest PNG dimension is 1724x764 and 1.22MB is largest filesize. Long heights are currently supported but not enormous widths.

The best would be if you can auto-generate server-side thumbnails that can be clicked to expand to full size, like image hosting sites do. VH's implementation is to do the scaling on browser-side, so tons of MBs of images are loaded even though they look like tiny thumbnails. And sometimes they're reloaded when they should already be in the browser cache. Editing the post is painful.

Weird, your quote link is a random post from July. fixed -LS

7722 is fine.
8600 is fine.

The 8500 is only fine if it has a TBC with Picture Mode settings. Info on the x500 PAL models has been contradictory over the years. So, for that reason, the 7500, 8500 and 9500 have never been suggested.

secam
 

Via a world wide VCR, can I edit a secam tape with the Panasonic AG-1980?

Hi, this is my first post here and I hope someone will answer my questions.

I live in Europe and except my homemade PAL VHS's I have many VHS's bought from US that are NTSC format. Want to convert them to DVD. I have a chance of buying JVC HR-S9700EU which is pal unit made in Germany. I know it also can play ntsc tapes on pal tv. Can I convert my ntsc tapes with this machine properly? Or I need an original ntsc VCR?

The next question is how to get the best picture quality when converting:
-using DVD recorder with HDD
-using Canopus ADVC-300 (with built TBC)
-using some capture card (if so, what is it?)

Would be great to get your professional advise.
Thanks in advance.

No.
What you propose sounds like a pass-through situation: VCR > VCR to process signal > capture
But VCRs don't have passthrough.
What are you trying to accomplish?

Welcome. :)

PAL VCRs output a quasi signal. It's neither true PAL, nor true NTSC. It's similar to NTSC-50, the opposite of Brazilian PAL-60. Capture cards expect standard signals (PAL, NTSC, even PAL-60, not NTSC-50). The TV can understand the quasi signal, but capture devices cannot.

You'll either need a worldwide VCR (consumer grade, low quality), or an NTSC VCR.

In PAL, DV is fine. But the Canopus ADVC-300 is a bad model. Yes, it cost more. That's the sad part. All those fancy filters in the 300 do more harm than good, and cannot be entirely turned off. The 50/55 and 100/110 models are better, due to lacking those filters. The Canopus DV boxes do NOT have a TBC, regardless of claims. It does nothing whatsoever compared to actual external TBCs, or TBCs embedded in devices (VCR, cameras, etc).

There are several viable options, but we suggest an XP capture box built around the ATI AIW cards for best results.

That 9700EU VCR should be really good for PAL tapes. It's comparable to my own NTSC 9800.

Lordsmurf, thanks a lot for your reply and an accurate explanation.
Though I'm coming up with few more questions for you.

What if I use a DVD recorder with JVC HR-S9700EU instead of a capture device.
Is it possible to convert NTSC tapes that way and get a real NTSC DVD as an outcome?
If this method works, do I need an external TBC for that? If so, which one would you
recommend? Most of my tapes (I own only VHS's, not S-VHS's) are SP mode, and a few recorded in
LP mode.

And, by the way, does an original NTSC JVC VCR that ends on "U" playbacks the PAL tapes?

Thanks again.

When I say "capture device", I refer to DVD recorders, capture cards, DV capture boxes, USB capture sticks, etc. The ingest device must have a stable and true signal. That includes an actual format, not a quasi mess (of which "NTSC-50" is just one; and realize it's in quotes because it's not actually a format). Stability is guaranteed by external TBC, which is needed in most cases (few devices have embedded TBCs that correct the signal; some embedded TBCs only correct the image, not the signal).

U alone is USA
EU is European
Further up this thread is the letter breakdown.

Being in SP mode mostly guarantees easier tracking (few to no issues), and slightly better quality. In terms of stability, SP is just as bad as LP or SLP/EP.

Well, that means I need 2 VCRs then.
If to talk about JVC HR-S7800U, does absence of the Dynamic Drum makes a big difference?
If to talk about DVD recorders, what brand would you recommend for transfering tapes?

I understand the meaning of letters. I wanted to know whether an US mashine,
let's say S9600U or S9800U (what you own) can playback the tapes recorded in PAL.
As there's nothing about that in their manuals.

Sorry for many questions but I have never done it before and want to do the things right.
Thanks a lot.

The DD is not better, just different. Sometimes it helps, sometimes not. The 9800 plays most tapes well, but sometimes the SR-V10 (aka 7900) or Panasonic AG-1980P does better. It really depends on many factors. For SP recordings, DD won't matter that much.

Tapes have chroma noise and grain. DVD recorders will make DVDs look worse than tapes -- with one exception. The LSI Logic chipset. The best LSI was the JVC models. Not all JVCs, just the early ones. There is a "LSI DVD recorder gallery" post on the forum. Search for it.

NTSC models don't play PAL. That means the HR-S9600U (or 9800, etc) does not play PAL.

I've ordered JVC HR-S9900U. So now I need a very good DVD recorder to convert my tapes.
And again the question is: can an european DVD recorder accept an NTSC signal and record it in NTSC?
I know almost all DVDRs can playback in both systems. But to capture the signal...?

I also would like to ask about these two recorders:
-JVC DR-MH50. Does it has LSI chipset?
-Philips DVDR3400/37. I know it has both video output systems. Plus LSI. But what
do you think about this one. Does it worth for converting to digital?

Thanks in advance.