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Dialhot 12-12-2004 03:40 PM

anytime you have a ...x56 video, that means that avisynth tries to talk to you :-)
Open the avs in virtualdubmod and you will have the message in plain text.

Note : do not hesitate to use the search button of the forum :idea:

andybno1 12-12-2004 03:48 PM

well I cant even check in vdub an i have 4 versions of it an all 4 crash when I load the script lol

Dialhot 12-12-2004 04:18 PM

play the avs in media player or open it into tmpgenc and se the preview.
My idea is that you misses the plugin ! Did you dl them :?:

Note: I talk about virtualdubMOD...

andybno1 12-12-2004 04:20 PM

hmm could be the deen and remove grain hmmmm off to the search I go hehehehehe

andybno1 12-12-2004 04:50 PM

well it turns out it didn't recognise the resize type I changed to BicubicResize and its workin now

Dialhot 12-12-2004 05:24 PM

8O 8O 8O
I hoped you could understand that I typed two times "Resize" by mistake.

By the way, avisynth... software... manual...

andybno1 12-12-2004 05:49 PM

I understood u typed it twice but it never recognised it with the one resize either. and for manuals aarrgghh they are a curse hehehehe I'm a learn by mistakes guy lol.

EDIT: nevermind LanczosResize is now working lol

zerotype 12-12-2004 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
wasn't pokin fun at you Dialhot I was havin a laugh with kwag what would you suggest then Dialhot? no script? I'm open to any suggestions and if it helps improve the way to do the movies I may do over the other two too an update this post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerotype
Thanks for this /
Also get a DLP if your gona get an hdtv lcd they can lloose a pixel or few.Plsama can go out in a FEW years.So get a DLP or DLp projector(my dad has one can go up to 100inches )

care to share some money my way then?? :lol: I have limited finds an the most I can go is maybe £500 at a stretch, and that gets me a 17" widescreen lcd tv. The one I am lookin at is a PHILIPS 17 PF 9945 17" widescreen lcd tv thats just inside me spendin limits means I'm goin down 4" in tv size but hey time to move into widescreen tvs lol

Well save up and you can find dlp projectors for ~$900 us.
Bt dlp's are not liek thin and usualy are cheaper compared to lcd tv's

andybno1 12-12-2004 05:56 PM

well bein unemployed makes it hard to save up as u get little money anyway an that goes fast, I only have this 500 cause I had an accident claim come through so I'm makin do with what I got and besides the tv is only for my bedroom so not after a big tv an I think a rear projection would take a bit too much room up lol

andybno1 12-13-2004 01:03 PM

okie dokie the third lotr movie seems to be the most difficult one hehehe now I'm havin probs with the audio goin out of sync when it goes onto the second part I never had this problem with 1 & 2 why now lol theres a strange noise for a second like on a double layer dvd when it switches layers. The video has come out 1.01 seconds shorter than the audio question is how do I sort this problem anyone with ideas?

Boulder 12-13-2004 01:39 PM

There's 0.474 seconds of silent audio at the end of the audio track on DVD1, at least in the DD5.1 track. Cut it with DelayCut for example.

There's also a couple of black frames at the disc change spot when you combine the two discs, you'll need to use Trim to remove them.

andybno1 12-13-2004 03:38 PM

so how do I find this DelayCut? I have done a search on videohelp.com and yahoo and nothing so tried Delay Cut and still nothing. Also whats the trim command?

Jellygoose 12-13-2004 04:11 PM

ok, this is google's first search result for "delay cut" :wink:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71545

about the trim command: you should really start reading the avisynth manual. you'll figure that one out easily i'm sure! 8)

andybno1 12-13-2004 04:36 PM

way to show me up with the google search hehehehehe I tend not to use google always been a pro yahoo user, I would read the manual but I find maybe usin the source range cutting in tmpgenc easier as I just remembered about it lol

muaddib 12-14-2004 12:26 AM

Hi andy, :)

I don't know, but that sample doesn’t seems to be encoded with that exact script. :roll:
I believe there is something wrong with that script, because the sample is anamorphic and this line:
Code:

GripCrop(720, 576)
Will not produce an anamorphic stream.
You have to use it like this: GripCrop(720, 576, dest_anamorphic=true) if you want GripFit to cut/resize for an anamorphic stream.
But I have to agree with Incredible and Dialhot that 704 and some overscan would be much better, but as this is a cinemascope AR, I suggest you to use an "overlap" (or letterbox) overscan. Like this:
Code:

GripCrop(704, 576, dest_anamorphic=true)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
#Filters
GripBorders()
LetterBox(0, 0, 16, 16)

(change the 16 by 8 if you think an overscan=2 is too much)

Also, the sample seems to not use GripFit at all :!: , as I can clearly see the "not so black" borders in the video. If you used GipFit and it did not correctly recognize the borders, try cutting the borders (72 lines) by hand... like this:
Code:

Crop(8, 72, 704, 432)
#Filters
AddBorders(0, 72, 0, 72)
LetterBox(0, 0, 8, 8)

This will cut the borders, apply the filters and add the black borders at the end, producing a 704x576 anamorphic stream with overscan=1 (overlap), keeping the AR and no need to resize!... but GipFit should do the same. :roll:

Dialhot 12-14-2004 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
way to show me up with the google search hehehehehe I tend not to use google always been a pro yahoo user, I would read the manual but I find maybe usin the source range cutting in tmpgenc easier as I just remembered about it lol

You wouldn't, you MUST.
Because answering to question that anyone can answer in two seconds reading the fucking manual is... let say... boring ?

incredible 12-14-2004 04:07 AM

Quote:

way to show me up with the google search hehehehehe I tend not to use google always been a pro yahoo user, I would read the manual but I find maybe usin the source range cutting in tmpgenc easier as I just remembered about it lol
"hehehehe"..."lol" ?
.... whats so funny about it? As almost all your sentences do include it, even many People try to explain things to you in here and youre already a member since some time where you shurely figured out that we intend to use/learn techniques where good results do come out.

NOONE in here uses TmpgEncs source range cutting ... and for shure IF already an avisynth file is the input. "trim()" is one of the most basic avisynth commands and you SHOULD read the manual or google a bit.

andybno1 12-14-2004 06:54 AM

muaddib I can without a doubt say I did use the script I pasted in original post to do the sample I wouldn't do all that then post a sample of not using the script.

dialhot: guess I shall have to look for the manual an have a little read then or atleast ry an read it :lol:

incredible excuse me for usin hehehehe an lol alot its just me and my way an who I am.

I also tried delaycut and it didn't do a think to the ac3 file there is still a delay I seen the cut bit in the program but wasnt too sure of the miloseconds where the problem occurs I do know the sync prob happens about 2hrs 2minutes into the film but dont know what that is in miloseconds

andybno1 12-14-2004 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boulder
Then you are not using the program correctly. You can check the amount of silence by decoding the last 10 seconds of the audio track to WAV, then opening it in any audio editor. On my DVD, the silent part was 474ms long (1s = 1000ms). I cut it off with DelayCut and no more sync problems when the audio tracks were joined (DVD1+DVD2) - after the couple of black frames were removed off the video in the disc change spot.

so you done yours as seperate audio & video files I put mine through dvd2avi with both parts in the one d2v file. I have tried in the past to do the two parts seperately and then join them but I found that when I joined with a vob or mpg joiner it didn't join them properly I just had the first part after the join.

Boulder 12-14-2004 09:33 AM

It's easier to work with two separate d2v projects, which are joined in the Avisynth script. That's because the section where the two discs are joined is usually problemous so having two different audio tracks helps in determining the problem. AC3 tracks can be easily joined with the MS-DOS prompt's copy command.


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