Lord of the Rings 1 & 2 Movies onto 1 DVD per Movie!

andybno1 · #1 12-10-2004, 10:39 AM

This post is to help show how I put each extended lord of the rings 1 & 2 movies onto 1 DVD Per Movie.

DVD Decrypter
KDVD-720x576-Full-D1-_PAL Template with kvcd notch
DVD2AVI v1.77.3 - PAL
Target 1 DVD 4.7 Gigs

MPEG-2 720x576 Full DVD
max bitrate 2500 Min bitrate 300
CQ Value 60
TMPEG 2.521.58.169
25fps

Decrypted both discs to hard drive of each movie loaded part one and two into dvd2avi to have tmpgenc encode as one continuous m2v file and also demuxed the ac3 files from both movies as one ac3 file.

audio: in dvd2avi click audio then rack number then select track 1 then again in audio select output method to demux (AC3,MPA,DTS)

Code:

##Main section and static filters ###
#
Mpeg2Source("Your_D2V_Source_Here")
#
undot()
asharp(1, 4)
GripCrop(720, 576)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))
#
#

##Linear Motion Adaptive Filtering ##
#
#( Portions from AviSynth's manual )
#This will apply variable temporalsoften
#and variable blur.
#Both filters are active at all times, and work inversely proportional to the
#activity, measured from current frame to next frame.

ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100))).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf), round(3/nf), 1, 1) ")

#
#
#

GripBorders()
#LetterBox( Your_Values_Here )#Depends on situation. Use MovieStacker!

#
#
##Functions ###

function fmin( int f1, int f2){
  return ( f1<f2 )? f1 : f2
}

#
####

resulting video file size left a little room for original DD 5.1 ac3 and Audio Commentary by the cast I also added forced subtitles using SubRip 1.17.1 and having fixed subtitles only ticked in the global options. finally muxed all together using dvdmaestro.

incredible · #2 12-10-2004, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1

......
Target 1 DVD 4.7 Gigs

MPEG-2 720x576 Full DVD
max bitrate 2500 Min bitrate 300
......

Sorry I know no discussion here but THAT movie will harm when setting max only to 2500kbit on a 4.7gb DVD!

Also do use Gripcrop(704,576, dest_anamorphic=true) ... 720 is NOT needed as these 16px extra wont be shown on your TV set neither a Beamer

kwag · #3 12-10-2004, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible

Sorry I know no discussion here

If it's related to this specific topic, and it clears any doubts or offers a direct suggestion, then it's fine

Edit: I just made a note of that on the sticky

-kwag

andybno1 · #4 12-10-2004, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible

Sorry I know no discussion here but THAT movie will harm when setting max only to 2500kbit on a 4.7gb DVD!

I personally have seen no loss of picture quality on my 21" 4:3 TV so it hasn't harmed my viewing.

Quote:

Also do use Gripcrop(704,576, dest_anamorphic=true) ... 720 is NOT needed as these 16px extra wont be shown on your TV set neither a Beamer

I just used
GripCrop(720, 576)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")

in my script as u can see from the code I posted

Dialhot · #5 12-10-2004, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1

I personally have seen no loss of picture quality on my 21" 4:3 TV so it hasn't harmed my viewing.

With a CQ about 60 ?

Quote:

I just used
GripCrop(720, 576)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")

Inc tries to explain to you that is it not usefull to go above 704x576.

andybno1 · #6 12-10-2004, 08:22 PM

ah right well me bein me lol I never really took note on things like that an just went with what I thought was right ie 720x576 template I have to specify the same res in avs file

andybno1 · #7 12-11-2004, 10:06 PM

well I decided to interupt the encode process while I done a sample to show u lot what the output looks like I personally found nothin wrong.

download the m2v file here (left click link)

download will be available for 7 days or 25-30 downloads

Dialhot · #8 12-11-2004, 10:20 PM

I this was done at CQ60 the result is better that what I thought but...

Open the m2v into virtualdub mod and see :
- frame 11 : wings
- frame 343 : sam's eyes
- frame 350 : overall image
- frame 367 : overall image
- frame 628 / 631 / 632 / 635 / 637 /638 / 674 / 715...

I stop on this last sequence that is a perfect example on how the picture is degraded due to the limit you put to 2500.

Do a you KDVD with 0 as min and 4500 as max !

andybno1 · #9 12-12-2004, 07:01 AM

well I am trying to fit 240 mins with two audio streams onto a dvd I dont expect the picture to be spot on but I see what u were meanin in vdubmod I didn't even notice this when viewing it

kwag · #10 12-12-2004, 09:27 AM

I saw the video clip, and the quality would be fine if seen on a regular TV up to, say a 27" screen? (Non HDTV).
Maybe a note of this should be pointed out, specially undelining the MAX bitrate, so people are aware that on larger size TVs, there will be some blocks seen on action scenes.
( Or if anyone likes to watch a movie frame-by frame, they will see them for sure

)

-kwag

andybno1 · #11 12-12-2004, 10:08 AM

well hmmm watch a film frame by frame hmmm

I have a 21" tv nonhd (i think lol whatever hd is I think I would know if it was hd lol) anyway looks fine on my 21" 4:3 been thinkin of gettin lcd 17" widescreen tv still thinkin it over.

zerotype · #12 12-12-2004, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1

well hmmm watch a film frame by frame hmmm

I have a 21" tv nonhd (i think lol whatever hd is I think I would know if it was hd lol) anyway looks fine on my 21" 4:3 been thinkin of gettin lcd 17" widescreen tv still thinkin it over.

Thanks for this

/
Also get a DLP if your gona get an hdtv lcd they can lloose a pixel or few.Plsama can go out in a FEW years.So get a DLP or DLp projector(my dad has one can go up to 100inches

)

Dialhot · #13 12-12-2004, 01:45 PM

Just a little thing : I do NOT (never) watch a movie frame by frame. I find this sutpid when people compare things usign sometime a 2x or 4x zoom

I wached your sample and the default were SO BIG that they hurt my eyes on the 15" LCD screen of my laptop

As it it nos possible to give hints based on time with KVCD (the time displayed is never correct) I had to use the frame number in vdubmod. I played the file and click on "stop" each time I saw a problem. And I gave you the corresponding frame number.

Sorry to hurt you, but your sample is bad

Note : I do all my KDVD with CCE with two movies (from 3h30 to 4h long), 2 audio streams (at 384 oe 44

and I do them as anamorphic (not letterboxed) ! I set the bitrate to 0 - 4500 (or 5000 if 3h30 long).

Note2: I never use the MA script.§ I really found the blur boring on your sample.

andybno1 · #14 12-12-2004, 02:16 PM

wasn't pokin fun at you Dialhot I was havin a laugh with kwag what would you suggest then Dialhot? no script? I'm open to any suggestions and if it helps improve the way to do the movies I may do over the other two too an update this post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerotype

Thanks for this /
Also get a DLP if your gona get an hdtv lcd they can lloose a pixel or few.Plsama can go out in a FEW years.So get a DLP or DLp projector(my dad has one can go up to 100inches )

care to share some money my way then??

I have limited finds an the most I can go is maybe £500 at a stretch, and that gets me a 17" widescreen lcd tv. The one I am lookin at is a PHILIPS 17 PF 9945 17" widescreen lcd tv thats just inside me spendin limits means I'm goin down 4" in tv size but hey time to move into widescreen tvs lol

Dialhot · #15 12-12-2004, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1

wasn't pokin fun at you Dialhot

I didn't take this bad.

Quote:

no script?

I use RemoveGrain().Deen() as filters (put that between the resize and the borders). I always target a 704*576 picture with overscan=2.

andybno1 · #16 12-12-2004, 02:51 PM

so is that as one line or deen on another line? and sorry but does overscan go in the brackets with the resize or outside the brackets?

Dialhot · #17 12-12-2004, 03:12 PM

Code:

Mpeg2Source("Your_D2V_Source_Here",cpu=4,idct=7)
GripCrop(704, 576,overscan=2,dest_anamorphic=true,source_anamorphic=true)
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResizeResize")
RemoveGrain()
Deen()
GripBorders()

andybno1 · #18 12-12-2004, 03:15 PM

cheers phill so basically just use that script?

whats the cpu and idct in the source bit?

Dialhot · #19 12-12-2004, 04:16 PM

Any software comes with a manual. Avisynth plugins are sotwares. RTFM

andybno1 · #20 12-12-2004, 04:27 PM

well I decided to try that script an it did not a gree at all with me pc lol

I goto source range to do a sample of the script to get the video display size at 700 X 56 and the length bein 9 seconds of black