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Boulder 09-11-2005 09:50 AM

It began to bother me so I dug it out:

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Originally Posted by incredible
The window of 720 is 53,333µs
The window of 704 is 52,148µs
The window of TV is 52,000µs

So 704 comes nearest to the TV. All other higher widths can only bee seen on a NON Analogue TV device like a PC Monitor

What comes to 352x576(480), the standalone has to extrapolate the "lost details" because the resolution is not enough for a full TV image.

oxycotton420 09-11-2005 12:48 PM

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Used 704x576 as res, min 100, max 4500 bitrate. Encoded with tmpgenc with different cq factor for each movie, with revolutions at cq 64.
Did you encode all 3 movies at the same time or seperatly?
if you encoded seperatly did you use 4500 birate for each one ?

gamma 09-12-2005 02:57 AM

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Did you encode all 3 movies at the same time or seperatly?
Seperatly.

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f you encoded seperatly did you use 4500 birate for each one ?
Hm, i think I used max 4600 for revolutions, cq 64. The rest 4500, maybe matrix 1 at 4400. I did many tests, by now I don't remember very well.
I do know that matrix 1 and 2 were below cq 64.

Use most space for revolutions, as it has the most "encoder nightmare" scenes :wink:

supermule 09-12-2005 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dialhot
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Originally Posted by rds_correia
As far as I know only projectors and maybe plasma screens are not affected by overscan.

Every digital device is not affected. Analog ones are. So old "3-eyes" projector are also affected.

What about Widescreen TV (LCD) ???

Dialhot 09-12-2005 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by supermule
What about Widescreen TV (LCD) ???

Plasma, DLP and LCD are digital (they all use a matrix based display).

incredible 09-12-2005 09:18 AM

a) It depends how the internal Tuner A/D Device handles the broadcasted signal to be displayed on a digital device.
Assume they wouldnt have any overscan, this would result in ugly edged broadcastings - do some analogue caps (or even digital ones) and youll see what I mean. So the "Overscan" is kind of simulated by upsizing to the overscanned out-of-bounds factor of for example 1024x768 on a 4:3 LCD TV.
Thats also the fact in case of DVB Transeivers when passing digital data via DVI through.

b) These pics above are VERY nice, no doubt. But when I did encode my Matrix episodes to KVCD or MVCD on two ones I was even able to put a second language mp2@128kbit Audiotrack on the CD-R. Means, Matrix Episodes do have quick motion and much action BUT the "whipped cream" for the encoder is the in relative very big amount of dark parts in the whole framecount. That makes things even much more compressable. Same thing when encoding "Seven" for instance. Do your test and you see how the CQ rises when predictionning to a common target size compared to other movies.

g8o4lyf 10-20-2005 12:07 AM

How would my results be if I converted matrix from .ts and then put 3 of them on one disc ? Is it worth it or should I just stick to encoding it at 1920x1088 in xvid ?

kwag 10-20-2005 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by g8o4lyf
How would my results be if I converted matrix from .ts

What exactly do you mean by :arrow: .ts
I hope it's not Tele Sync, because if it is, the posts will be deleted.

-kwag

incredible 10-20-2005 02:38 AM

.ts = TransportStream

A resulted stream out of a DVB streaming. Which should be kept at its max Detailed res. 1920x1088., so I'd go for x264 encoding on that and putting it into a mp4 or even better mkv container.

Dialhot 10-20-2005 04:52 AM

To answer directly to the question : using your HDTV ts as source is even better than using the DVD. So if you convert them into KDVD, you will have the same quality in the result as the one exposed here.

OT (nothing to do with KDVD) :there is a new tool to do HDTV ts -> DVD in one shot

http://www.svcd2dvd.com/HDTV2DVD/

g8o4lyf 10-21-2005 01:45 PM

Incredible is right, thanks. Sorry I should have specified what I was asking. I just used hdtv2dvd on a small sample and it encoded it pretty fast im surprised. I am not sure if converting from hdtv to dvd is faster than converting it to divx/xvid or not but thats what it seems like. I want to also make my own matrix trilogy in one disc like gamma has done but my main concern is that I am loosing resolution when i convert to kdvd..in other words my source is 1080i and the end file I get is 720x480. Does loosing resolution matter ? If it does I would rather convert it to another format.

Dialhot 10-22-2005 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by g8o4lyf
Does loosing resolution matter ? If it does I would rather convert it to another format.

Of course it does, else the HDTV woudn't have come to life.
How ever, I have bid doubts that you can put the trilogy on a single DVD if you keep the HDTV resolution even in Xvid. Why ? Because for such resolution you will have to keep a high average bitrate, probably over 2500 Kbit/s. And this won't let you put the 6H on a disc.

You can try new codecs like H264 or RV10, it should be better, but I still have doubts.

g8o4lyf 10-22-2005 10:30 AM

Can i choose 1920x1088 resolution in tmpgenc ?

Dialhot 10-22-2005 12:01 PM

Yes.
If the settings is greyed, then load the template called 'unlock.mcf' that is delivered with tmgenc. It will free all the settings and let you change them.

limonmh 11-19-2005 04:47 AM

hi
 
i am new member.actually i want to know that which software i have to use for this work

supermule 11-19-2005 08:12 AM

Re: hi
 
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Originally Posted by limonmh
i am new member.actually i want to know that which software i have to use for this work

Please go through the guides available, but just FYI, avisynth, TMPGEnc(with readavs.dll configured) and knowledge of avisynth filters would be required for the Video conversion. For audio use besweet or Headac3he.

grodriguez 12-05-2006 07:22 PM

hey gamma , can i see the script that you did?

Dialhot 12-05-2006 07:33 PM

Re: The Matrix Trilogy
 
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Originally Posted by gamma
Just used a simple removegrain() and stmedianfilter(3,3,1,1).


gamma 12-06-2006 01:03 PM

Re: The Matrix Trilogy
 
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Originally Posted by Dialhot
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Originally Posted by gamma
Just used a simple removegrain() and stmedianfilter(3,3,1,1).


Yup :D

But, I would definitely try lremovedust now.


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