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kwag	01-01-2003 09:57 PM

GEE!, I walk out for ~8 hours, and I feel lost 8O . Took me about an hour to get back in sync reading all new posts :roll:
We just finished watching "Sum of all fears", which I encoded last night with the x3 (528x480) on one CD, and it looked great :D ( Great movie too 8) )

-kwag

gonzopdx

01-01-2003 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kwag

We just finished watching "Sum of all fears", which I encoded last night with the x3 (528x480) on one CD, and it looked great :D ( Great movie too 8) )

How do you get such high quality encodes? Do you use any smoothers besides FluxSmooth? Please share! I'm bashing my head against the wall trying this and I can't seem to get any encodes that look nearly as good as your samples..

kwag	01-01-2003 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzopdx

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

We just finished watching "Sum of all fears", which I encoded last night with the x3 (528x480) on one CD, and it looked great :D ( Great movie too 8) )

This is the .avs I used for that movie:

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\MPEG2DEC.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\fluxsmooth.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\blockbuster.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\legalclip.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\sampler.dll")



Mpeg2Source("K:\SUM_OF_ALL_FEARS\VIDEO_TS\sum.d2v")

LegalClip()

BilinearResize(496,336,8,0,704,480)

FluxSmooth()

Blockbuster(method="noise", variance=.4, seed=1)

AddBorders(16,72,16,72)

LegalClip()



#Sampler(length=24)

## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

I even put a very low .4 "noise" in there just for the hell of it 8)
The complete movie looks just like the sample I posted previously. The bit rates were MIN=300 and MAX=2,500 using CQ mode, BETA-1 matrix, and a CQ value of 63.6

-kwag

gonzopdx

01-01-2003 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

The complete movie looks just like the sample I posted previously. The bit rates were MIN=300 and MAX=2,500 using CQ mode, BETA-1 matrix, and a CQ value of 63.6

This is what I don't understand. My scripts that I've been using are almost identical and my movies look nowhere near as good as yours do.

I have a 97 minute movie I'm trying to encode @ 528x480.. very low action (Jay & Silent Bob).. CQ of 50 is too much to fit on one CD.

I don't get it.

kwag	01-01-2003 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzopdx

Double check that you are using the KVCD matrix ( Or BETA-1 matrix ) and the GOP 1-12-2-1-24.
AviSynth 2.07.
TMPGEnc 2.59.
Latest versions of SansGrip's filters.
DVD2AVI 1.76.

I can't think of anything else :roll:

-kwag

apoc	01-02-2003 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzopdx

What format is your source ? 1.85 ? 2.35 ?
This can explain why you have to decrease CQ value

--
apoc

gonzopdx

01-02-2003 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

Double check that you are using the KVCD matrix ( Or BETA-1 matrix ) and the GOP 1-12-2-1-24.
AviSynth 2.07.
TMPGEnc 2.59.
Latest versions of SansGrip's filters.
DVD2AVI 1.76.

Check (tried BETA-1 & Original)
Check.
Check (2.59 Plus)
Check.
Double check. :)

See? It's a mystery ;) I don't get it :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by apoc

What format is your source ? 1.85 ? 2.35 ?

1.85..

SansGrip

01-02-2003 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzopdx

I have a 97 minute movie I'm trying to encode @ 528x480.. very low action (Jay & Silent Bob).. CQ of 50 is too much to fit on one CD.

That is weird. I just put a 16:9 95m movie on one disc with x3 and the CQ was 69.9. Post the exact script you're using and I'll take a look.

gonzopdx

01-02-2003 11:31 AM

Here it is.. exact script I used:

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Video\Plugs\mpeg2dec.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Video\Plugs\legalclip.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Video\Plugs\fluxsmooth.dll")

# LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Video\Plugs\blockbuster.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Video\Plugs\decomb.dll")



mpeg2source("C:\Temp\jsb\vobs\jsb.d2v")



Trim(0,175500)



Telecide()

Decimate(cycle=5)



# LanczosResize(480,274,2,57,716,364)



BicubicResize(512,270,0,0.6,6,58,708,364)



# LegalClip()



FluxSmooth()



# BlockBuster(method="dither",variance=.7)



LegalClip()



AddBorders(8,105,8,105)

SansGrip

01-02-2003 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzopdx

Here it is.. exact script I used

Well that script looks fine. I'm not sure why you'd have to use such a low CQ level to do a ~90m movie with that script, unless you've set something wrong in TMPGEnc.

Though I do recall some people experiencing problems with large file sizes using TMPGEnc 2.59...

gonzopdx

01-03-2003 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SansGrip

Though I do recall some people experiencing problems with large file sizes using TMPGEnc 2.59...

Which would you recommend? 2.58? 2.57? Regular/Plus? Which are you using?

SansGrip

01-03-2003 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzopdx

Which would you recommend? 2.58? 2.57? Regular/Plus? Which are you using?

I use 2.58 -- the free version -- and have never had any problems with it.

gonzopdx

01-03-2003 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SansGrip

I use 2.58 -- the free version -- and have never had any problems with it.

I had a copy of 2.58.44.152 Plus on my HD.. I installed it, did a sample clip, same source, same script...same results. CQ 50 is too big to fit on a CD.

SansGrip

01-03-2003 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzopdx

I had a copy of 2.58.44.152 Plus on my HD.. I installed it, did a sample clip, same source, same script...same results. CQ 50 is too big to fit on a CD.

Of course the CQ value will depend on the source. I just used CQ 38.9 to get a movie on one disc, but it was 2h20m long. Something still sounds wrong to me. Can you post complete (exhaustive, boring even :)) details?

Also, find the CQ value that'll give you one disc then post a clip. If you need web space, PM me and I'll give you somewhere to upload it.

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