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Fight for Our Rights!!!!!!

Now I'm realy pissed OFF!!!! Blame me if it not allowed to anathematize!

What I saw is realy stupied of MVCD. The on, Jim he's calling him self, has stolen parts of my guide and vmesquita's.

Here the links. It's german, like ever... DVD2MSVCD GUIDE

Forumpost: http://www.molevcd.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2283

So, what we do now? Jim did the template exactly who I discribed it in my Guide Creating Templates for CCE , but he didn't wrote anything about me in his Guide. (Now I understand You, vmesquita complete!!! I'll ever notice You in my Guides, if I take parts out of our Guides or posts in the forum!)

The funniest was: He posted a AVISYNTHScript and called it KVCD-Script in his Guide. What I noticed to was that the Guide has similar style like my guides have...

Think about it!

now you will understand better my intentions
in the thread of the vmesquita guide my friend Avalon.

i'm with you to fight for yours and the forum rights(place and members)!

count with me!

:wink:

Avalon,

Oh, this is just great... :( Don't this MVCD guys ever give up stealing stuff and come up with something new? Why in hell do this people can't create something? If they use their time creating instead of stealing, it would be better for everyone!
And the most scary part is the end:

"11. - CopyRight:
CopyRight by Jim. Member of the MVCD-Forum."

I think we should register on MVCD forum and post a link and a date. But of course the cowards would delete the post so that would help a lot. I really have no idea about this, for now I'll just pm Kwag about it so maybe he'll have a good idea about what to do.

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Vmesquita

It's really easy :D
You see, the history of MVCD and mole has already been written :!:
They will fall by their own weight and practices. When people visit their site, and learn the truth, they eventually leave :!:
But the "followers" to mole and MVCD, who clearly know the reality, are as thieves as him. Period.
So yes, I agree that German fellows should post there, and point them to the real guide that Avalon made. This way, they can see the kind of "rippers" that MVCD hosts.
They have "nothing" original on their site, and I believe they will fade with time, just because of their bad practices.
Oh yeah, and before some of their members come here and say "But now we have our own matrix :!: "
Sure they do, and maybe some day (maybe?) it will be better that KVCDs matrix :!: but their scars are deep, and once you've commited that kind of dirty practices as they've done since the beginning, there's no return :!:

In spanish, we have a saying: "Dime con quien andas, y te dire quien eres"
Which would translate to something like this: "Tell me who you hang out with, and I'll tell you who you are"
I think I made my point ;)

-kwag

Kwag,

You couldn't have been wiser. You are right. Let's concentrate our efforts on improving our methods. When people visit here, they'll realise the truth, and leave the thieves behind or join them.

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Vmesquita

PS: We also have this saying in Portuguese.

@ Kwag, vmesquita, Avalon and all friends:

as i posted a few months ago about mvcd i write
again today .....remains the absolute true again:

the best choice to mvcd is :arrow: KVCD :!:
who can't build, can "copy" and "paste"!
:lol:
:rotf: :hihi:

we Tarzan(KVCD), they "Monkeys"( "M" vcd) :roll:

....and i'm Jorge of the jungle!
:lol:

:evil: :roll: What a bunch of immoral losers these MVCD/Mole ripoff-artists are!!! Won't they ever learn?

MVCD=

Mentally
Vacuous
Copycat
Delinquents

:wink: Or, for our Spanish speaking friends:

Mentirosos
Vagabondos
Copiadoras
Diablos

I would urge everyone who knows the real truth behind these MVCD people (and I use that term loosely) to spread the word. When you see someone asking questions about MVCD somewhere, inform them about how MVCD constantly steals ideas from Kwag and the members of KVCD.net (and probably anyone else they can steal from too). If they won't learn to fairly give credit where credit is due, then at least we can do our best to stop them in their deceptive tracks by informing people about their checkered past. Expose mvcd for what it really is...nothing but a cheap, inferior knockoff of KVCD!

How long do you think it will be before we see an "MVCD-Matic" prediction program with a slightly altered GUI? :evil: :roll: Whooops! 8O ....please forgive me Kwag!.....I'm affraid I may have just given the mole-people "another bright idea" (since they obviously come here for their ideas since they can't think for themselves too well :!: ). :lol:

-d&c

P.S. To any of you MVCD thieves who are currently reading this post as you snoop around kvcd.net for more ideas to steal and call your own, please get a life...and maybe you could even try using your own brains and actually contributing something unique and valuable to the world of video conversion! :idea: Now wouldn't that be a nice change of pace for you guys?

Some Posts out of the Thread of MVCD:

Guide will work with CCE 2.67... Like in my Guide...

Avisynth 2.5x is bad use 2.08... thy don't can use the MA-Script I posted in my Guide ...

when I delete this lines it will work. Can anybody tell my why?
This is stupied. Thy steal and don't now how it works ...

So have a nice day ... I must go to work now.

ROTFLOL ! :cid:
If you can translate "because you're an *******" in German and post it into this thread, I think it can help a little :-)

:lol:
yes.... :rotf:

:ideasmiley:
@ Avalon,
put it there too...
why it don't work?
cos mvcd means:

Making
Vanish
Copyright
Device

:lol: :hihi: :rotf:

Edit: OK I edit now this post. I had post a link for swearwords in german here, but I got a PM from dazed&confused. So I go over it and delete the link. For everbody who want german swearwords go to www.google.de and enter 'Schimpfwörter'.

Have a nice day

:cid: AS dialhot woud say ROTFLOL!!!!!!!

I am learning here what my father and/or grandfather never taught me: that is to speak German.
What I find most hilarious is that
is not completely completely spelled, but is totally and correctly written.....

Thanks Avalon for the lesons :D

Otto

There is now a Filter Pack. All filter are inside now.

That's exactly my way!!!!!

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I've noticed how to create templates for CCE so I write the guide new...

He had found my Guide for CCE Templates on ---------------

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He's found out how to edit the GripCrop-settings...

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I think this script is also ours, or not?

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no this is right. This balks right and left, u'll never see them on TV. They're for keeping the aspect ratio to get no Eggheads...

nice description for a gone-gaga-one ...

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Has somebody a working AVISynthscript now? I've always error messages...

He is a noob... and this is good so...

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if I install the registry-file I got this error-message: C:\DOWNLO~1\MVCD2~1.REG can't be registred. Error at setup registry.

Can I add the template to the REG manually?

Heavy problems installing "Their" templates...

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I think they should ask us ... no let them die in their own grave ... they don't get it into their minds, even if we try it to explain them how it works ... I won't do this ... Somebody?

@totonho03 The word #S#H#I#T# is impossible in this board (THX kwag) but I can write Sch####e many times I want to do it...

:angryfire:

I can teach everyone!!! I was once a Judo-Teacher in a dojo...

Edit: I think it is better so without swearwords in the threads...

Yes. Somebody should let them know :!:
Too many people going to MVCD's site, and they don't really know how it (really) started and where it's roots (KVCD?) came from :roll:

-kwag

OK I think I go to MVCD an do this now... :twisted:

done:

Translate it with google or so... I'm now to tired!!!!

Link to MVCD: http://www.molevcd.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19472#19472

Thanks Avalon.

Link for Altavista English translation (not very good but better than not understand at all):

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...p=de_en&tt=url

I didn't understand waht did Lucike FZ meant in his reply.

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Vmesquita

Nothing! There was once a Translator of DVDShrink with the same name...

this shoult be named: someone at MVCD is stealing CCE Templates..
und zu Kwags Bemerkung:
Nicht alles ist automatisch bei KVCD geklaut
Ich gebs auf, mich darüber zu ärgern, die 2.5er MVCD Templates haben nichts aber auch gar nichts mit KVCD zu tun, außer daß VBR benutzt wird, und das ist nicht geistiges Eigentum von kwag.
Sorry, aber da versucht man die Hand zu reichen und wird immer wieder angegriffen

@Roc: Ok Roc. Ich hab den Titel geändert. Natürlich ist die MVCD 2.5ex Eure Creation und ich hab auch schon manche MVCDs erstellt. Ich hab nichts gegen Dich. Wieso sonst hätte ich nen Link zu Deiner Seite auf meiner Page?

Du bist so die Fusion von KVCD.net und MVCD. Das finde ich toll. Natürlich will ich jedem meine Hand reichen. Vielleicht helf ich auch Jim es auf die Reihe zu bekommen, nur wenn er aber einsieht, dass es eigentlich mein Werk und vmesquita's ist.

Mach weiter so Roc! :wink:

I've seen several MVCD .mpg Files on KazaaLite now, whereas I have hardly ever seen a KVCD File. Alas the spread of MVCD is quicker than KVCD's - most German folks make MVCDs (they can't read the KVCD Forum because it's english I guess :roll: ) and their DSL flatrates enable them to spread this MVCD stuff.
Additionally KVCD users seem to be too clever to share their files on Kazaa :lol:
What I'm trying to say is that those who can live with MVCD quality and a guilty conscience shall do so - those who want KVCD(DVD) quality shall do their KVCD(DVD)s themselves and BE HAPPY! Copies for private use are still allowed in many countries on our planet earth, whereas Filesharing is generally forbidden (with some exceptions - Switzerland?).

MVCD users may suffer a guilty conscience - KVCD users keep it real!

Well first ...

The soultion is to respect the work of people who spend the time by writing Guides like avalon. And if there are Links or Lines which refer to other Guides in the www it should be mentioned where they are from!
In German we say "Ehre wem Ehre gebürt".

In my case I get the best results by using techniques and stuff from both worlds including some modifications by myself. So I receive a very good Quality. It depends on the data within the movie or if it will be burned as a DVD-R or a CD-R.

I see it like this: We are all "ONE-CD-MOVIE"-Users or creaters. So use the template you like and use the technique you prefer. I spended weeks to compare, to get best compression and to get the knowledge to figure out wich kind of process will give me the much easiest way to work.
So we all want to drive the "Car" ... someones prefer gas. from BP and the others from Exxon.

And thats what I like .. comparing... testing ... modyfying ... learning by doing ... and so on. Thats the way we understand this stuff und get the knowledge we have.

PS: I think I already enjoyed in this Forum (ACP Topic) prophanic words. And I see them here in this thread again "Quote= Wichser", so lets stay cool! ;-)

:idea:

maybe a good idea:
why programs like CQMatic,MovieStacker,ToK,Sweethead...
everything don't have the "from kvcd forum" built
in the top of the programs?
when someone open ...for example CQMatic,
will be read:

CQMatic - from kvcd forum - copyright Softronex...

cool or lame in the idea :?:

The problem is, that people come here to KVCD.Net and learn to drive a legally bought car with original parts. But others go to MVCD, and learn (half ass!), and drive away with a stolen car :mrgreen:
An MVCD car with stolen KVCD parts, and that pisses me, and many others :twisted:

-kwag

Jo Kwag! Right as ever! :twisted: :twisted:

For ALL: We won!!!
Roc closed the thread!!!! THX Roc for this! Why are You not in the KVCD.Net?

Avalon posted his Templates on 09.08.2003 (german writing..)

http://www.rj-elektronik.de/avalon/D...137c19b51c272f

and vmesquita his guide on the 18.07.2003 (german writing..)

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....asc&highlight=

I on 09.07.2003 (german writing..)

http://www.molevcd.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2283

so.. :roll:

i respect the work of kvcd.net..
so should there any copyrights missing contact me :wink:

and the guide is no longer up to date...
i have created new templates, there are more like the RoBa Method...

Ok :evil:

Who is stealing from who?????

Or had two people in this freaky world the same idea?

Jim,

I can't even read german, so definatelly I would never came to this guide or MoleVCD, which BTW I had never heard until kwag told me about.

[]'s
Vmesquita

you are really asking who is stealing from who?

@vmesquita

I post my guide on the 09.07.2003 (german writing..)

and you post your guide on the 18.07.2003 (german writing)

links above...

Jim, as long MVCD will be an illegal rip off KVCD, you can post whatever you want for this crap, you will steal other one ideas.
I guess you template (or Avalon's ones, I don't care) use Q-Notch Matrix ? Don't they ?

This matrix is copyrighted from Softronex. So...

nope the 2.5 template dont no longer use the notch matrix..
it is not my problem if mole steal the kvcd idea or not to make his own templates i only write the guide and make the templates

If you can read a little english, you can see that German version wasn't made by vmesquita but by new-bee.

Vmesquita told you he CAN'T read german. So he can't write it, and he can't stole """your""" ideas !

Do not longer... so they had to...

Ok for this part, I didn't know.

I can use Notch-Matrix. kwag allowed me. But in DCD 6.0.0.1 I've a own matrix. Here is it:

http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif

Then you make guides on a site knowing Mole's background :?:
And you make guides for a site who follows unprofessional practices :?:
Are you are aware of what mole and MVCD has been doing since the start :?:
Doesn't that "ring a bell" :!: :!: :!: :!:

-kwag

Kwag allow everyone to use his work as soon as you tell from where the ideas are ! That's what Mole ""forgot"" to do.

@Dialhot

vmesquita posted the original guide on 18.07.2003 german writing

german guide was posted on 03.09.2003

so it doesn't matter...

He can you a translator or whatever
if he cant --> idiot

Jim,

As I said, I never knew about MoleVCD until kwag told me it existed and how it started. And it was long after the first version of my guide. If you read my post from the beggining, you'll see that I started proposing an idea to later write a guide, which I wrote from scratch. My guide started focusing DivX to KDVD conversions only (read the changelog), simply because it was what I was trying to do at the time. Later I added support to other stuff in new versions. Read the thread of the guide and you'll see how it growed, since in the beggining it was simply a registry template (what I did from the scratch) and 10 steps to use with prediction. I don't know what you mean by your last post, but even being here for little time I got respect by showing knowledge and trying to help the others, and most developments in my guide were to help people to do stuff that i don't even do, like KSVCD and using it with TmpgEnc.

And as I said, I can't read german, otherwise I wouldn't ask others to translate my guide to german, I would do myself like I did the Brazilian Portuguese version.

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Vmesquita

Flaming people will not help making you more popular there. We are not on MVCD forum. :bruce: