Idiot's Guide for Converting Avi to KVCD
 

Some might call this the guide for stupid Americans like myself, but this is basically for all the newbies who don't have a clue and just want to convert an AVI into a VCD. Because I like to simplify everything in my life, I've come up with this "idiot's guide" for people who don't want to download all the extra software and don't understand scripts and command-line programs.

What you need:
This KVCD template: 352x240_120_min
Or this one: 352x240_180_min
TMPGEnc- http://www.Tmpgenc.net/e_download.html
VirtualDub- http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net
Nero Burning Rom

* Before you start, I should say you need to load the 2 KVCD templates into your TMPGEnc templates folder. (Be sure they don't save as .txt files, if they do just rename them so they have .mcf on the end)

1) Using TMPGEnc, extract the audio file from the avi, save as MP2.

a. First, cancel the project wizard.
b. Click on the audio source browse button and select your avi movie.
c. Click on "setting" in the bottom right corner, make sure stream type is set to MPEG-1 Audio Layer II, frequency - 44100 Hz, Dual Channel, and 112 kb/sec. When you click on start, it should save your audio as a mp2 file.

EDIT FROM DIALHOT : this does NOT work if the audio is MP3 VBR. In such case, tmpgenc can't handle the audio and produce a file that is abnormally long (4 hours for instance).
NEVER USE Tmpgenc for encoding audio. ALWAYS use virtualdub to isolate the audio and besweet or headac3che to encode it.
Remember the name of this guide : it is IDIOT :!:

2) Delete audio from original avi.

a. Open VirtualDub, select File --> Open video file, and open the AVI file.
b. Select Audio --> No Audio.
c. Select Video --> Direct Stream Copy.
d. Select File --> Save as AVI, select a file name and click OK.
e. You’ll end up with an AVI file with just the video.

3) Encode the video to m1v.

a. Open TMPGEnc and cancel out of the project wizard.
b. Select File, New Project, to reset TMPGEnc.
c. Open your video source, click "Browse" and select the video-only avi you made w/ Virtual Dub
d. Click the "load" button in the bottom right corner and browse until you find the TMGEnc templates folder. (Depending on movie length, select either the 120 minute one or the 180 minute one. If its less than 2 hrs always pick the 120 minute template b/c it's higher quality)
e. Click "start" and let TMPGEnc encode the video. This will take many, many hours depending on your computer.

4) Using the MPEG Tools in TMPGEnc, Multiplex the video and audio files.

a. Select File --> MPEG Tools, select the Simple Multiplex tab.
b. At the top, Select --> "MPEG-1 VideoCD non-standard"
c. On Video Input, click on Browse and select the m1v file created on step 3.
d. On Audio Input click on Browse and select the MP2 file created on step 1.
e. On Output File click on Browse and select the output MPG file name and location.
f. Click on Run and wait a few minutes

5) If video is larger than 800 MB, trim off opening and ending credits

a. In TMPGEnc, Select File --> MPEG Tools
b. Click on --> "Merge & Cut" tab, click on --> "Add", browse for your mpeg, click -->"Edit".
c. Select the range you want to keep, click--> "ok", click--> "browse" and rename the trimmed mpeg, save.
d. Click--> "run"

6) Burn your VCD onto a new 80 min CD-R
Open your cd burning program and select "create new video cd". I use Nero Express. In your cd burning program, find where you can uncheck "Create standard compliant CD". This is very important to uncheck this or it won't work correctly. In Nero, you may have to toggle between Express and the regular version in order to access the options menu where it allows you to uncheck "Create Standard Compliant CD". Also, be sure to burn at a slower speed b/c some DVD players have trouble reading it if you don't. I use 24x and it seems to work fine. You're off to the races, good luck!

If you to keep it simple it's alright this way, but you can fit 800 mb on 80min cd, simply uncheck "Create standart compliant cd" in nero when you choose videodisc compilation.

Thanks Edlund! Everyone feel free to add tips and pointers to the idiot guide. Before you know it, I won't be such an idiot anymore! :D

One question, i encoded the .avi to .m1v and it was only 17 mins long however it did seem all the film was there ??!!?? is this normal or have i done something wrong. By the way there was a floating point error but i dont know where cos i endcoded the movie over night.

TIA Chimp

You did nothing wrong : following the codecs you have on your PC, the time of an encoded KVCD is completly false. That is the same on the display of standalone players.

Thanks Dialhot, think ive finally cracked it!!!

Had to ise the "idiots" guide though :oops: lol :D

Right, may have spoke too soon.

On comp with WMp all seems fine, burned onto a disc and audio sketchy to say least, in fact hardly no audio. Any suggestions ( i muxed the video and audio with TMPGEnc if that helps).

Played samples 1 tp 6 to see if it was uncompatible and 1 to 4 play fine.

TIA Chimp

You audio is certainly in 48KHz and your player doesn't appreciate.You have to convert it 44.1Khz while encoding it into mp2.

Thanks Dialhot, I'll give it a go

Same result at 44.1KHz!! I did notice when i was muxing with TMPGEnc that the type was "MPEG-1 system (automatic)" will altering this help maybe ?!? Any suggestions would be welcome.

Ta

Chimp

Hi chimpus,

You must mux as "MPEG-1 VideoCD non-standard"

-kwag

Thanks Kwag I had a feeling that i may have to do that just wanted confirmation before i go ahead.

Thanks Again
Chimp

Nope!!! Again no audio cant think what could be wrong!?!

Chimp

Did you check if the mp2 file is okay on your PC ?

I think you should really use a script. It produces better quality but creates more problems to solve too. Maybe it's a good idea to just put in the guide the "Avi to KVCD script" or the "optimal MA script", the newbies just have to change the path of the avi, the resolution and eventually the subtitles. If it's too hard, they can give up, but if they have the will to learn, they can search this forum and if they find nothing they can ask:)

Edlung,

I agree that the best quality can only be achived using scripts and other stuff. But if we start complicating this guide, it won't be "idiot's guide to KVCD" anymore... I think there are plenty of guides using scripts, and after the newbee gets it's first success, he will want to get better quality. Maybe there only should be something written in the end: "There are many methods to get even more quality, like scripts, CQMatic and etc. Look in this guides [link to the guides]" :D

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Vmesquita

I hear you brother, but when you talk about scripts, the newbies hear: "bla bla bla, bla bla, bla bla bla bla bla." :P This is just to get people started, if they have more time and patience, then they can try to master the more complicated methods. But I've had nothing but success doing it the idiot's way. :drink:

Yes, you guys are right, it won't be idiot's guide anymore. It's really good this way, great work Cougar_Pines :D 8) :wink:

Post "Sticked"! :wink:

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Vmesquita

temp. kvcd
 

when i try to d/l the temp. the only thing i see is a page exp. what is in there is this right and how do i d/l the temp that you have said Mr. K. thanks

this is my first post so please be gentle, i know when someone is new, the wolves will gang up

but here is my question, are these programs enough to transform a Divx AVI to a KVCD without DivFix or AC3Fix

You are correct sir.

cool thanks man, say i was wondering is KVCDx2 and KVCDx3 are better than regular KVCD?

im guessing here because i just saw KVCDx2 and KVCDx3

Hi danny,

KVCDx2 was a template name. KVCDx3 is a label we named for the official resolution of the encoded MPEG files with our parameters. Read here: http://www.kvcd.net/portal/articles.php?lng=en&pg=20
KVCD stands for our trade name, which stands for .............. you'll know one day when we finish some legal paperwork :cool: , and it's not kwag's Video CD ;)

-kwag

cool thanks man

I am following the guide to the letter and only seem to be having problems when it comes to the mp2 audio file.

I have stream type as MPEG-1 Audio Layer II

My Sampling Freq is 44100hz

Channel mode is Dual Channel

Bitrate is 112

Error protection
original flag
copyright flag
private flag

they are all unticked

de-emphasis flag is NONE and USE Audio Edit is unticked

I do everything you say but still i can not hear it when playing it back on my system.

Im unsure why.
Any alternatives?

Thanks

Hey, I just attempted to make my first kvcd the othery day using this guide. I should maybe put this in the success story section but I wanna say thanks to Cougar for making a guide that stupid people like me can understand. The video on the kvcd isn't far off from the source video, and the audio is just fine, everything worked first try.

So, thanks again.

p.s Cougar, your avatar is awesome

first just wanted to say thanks for the guide...but i got a problem...i tried a couple small .avi files and i converted them both perfectly fine in my first attempt but then when i tried a whole .avi movie i gotta problem where i cant hear nothing when i play my mp2 file theres not a single noise so i went and made a mp2 file with a small .avi file again and i can hear it fine?? any1 have any idea on what i can do?? thanks in advance...

Bruce Almighty is not released until November.

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Read the disclaimer.

-kwag

I had the same problem myself but I know how to fix it. In VirtualDub save the audio to a .WAV file then instead of using tmpgenc to copy the audio from the AVI to an mp2, don't open the AVI, use the WAV file instead. I'm not a very good writer so that's the best I can explain it. Looka round for some more guides or just do what I do: Experiment!

wait, so doing it this way i can fit a 100mins video on the 80mins cd?

well this method didnt work so well for me... rather change disk in my dvd player then wait 32 hours for enocoding

I agree- it makes me wanna bust a coffee table :!: :lol:

No, with KVCD you can fit up to 180 minutes on a disc! That's the great thing about it :wink:

Or 360 minutes with ULBR, but that's for small TV sets, as quality will be sub VCD. Still watcheable, and on small TVs ( 13" or so) it will look just like a VCD :)
See the information here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2372
Edit: Sorry, the sample is no longer available.

-kwag

am i doing sometin wrong? cuz tmpgnec says it tak 30hrs and i have a 2.0ghz inter pen4. and when i tried the guide "divx to kvcd" guide, i dont know what to do when i get to the part about using moviestacker.

That's weird. With that speed it shouldn't take more than 8-10 hours. You might be encoding the movie with too high a quality setting. Make sure no other programs are running in the background using up your CPU usage and if that's still not enough speed maybe you should buy a bigger fan and overclock your processor to about 2.4GHz or even 3.0GHz.

yeh it bloody rocks. i reckon it looks like Drew Carey :wink:

Write Errors???????????????????
 

Ok decided to give this a try. everything went well till part 3 in TMPGEnc when I hit a "Write error occurred at address 77F83905 of module 'NTDLL.DLL' with 00000000. What can I do about this? Thanks all, so far looks great, just hope I can finish :?

Tried it again and got another error "Write error occurred at address 00401c9f of module TMPGEnc.exe with 02824704". This is getting very frustrating, Nero is looking better and better. Any suggestions again