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markums2k 08-31-2002 08:58 PM

Huh?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reman
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Try the MPEG-2 for your Apex.

Just change the 3/4 to the full ie 544 and it works great on an APEX 1000 and 1500...MPEG1. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Change the 3/4 to the full ie 544, I don't know what that means! Is this a setting in TMPGEnc? Are you talking about the resolution? Sorry for my horrible ignorance... I've been faking my way through life for so long! :D

kwag 08-31-2002 11:31 PM

Hi markums2k,
These are the settings on FitCD.

-kwag

a_star62 09-01-2002 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luis
Kwag,

Thanks for the good job.

Unfortunately, KVCDx3 templates seem not to work with my Pioneer DV-444. I have tested your samples, mine, both in small and full 3/4, both in MPEG1 and MPEG2 but no luck :(
The issue is that the image is not horizontally expanded to cover the full screen, so the visible part is only 3/4 of the horizontal resolution, although in very high quality :wink: .

Anyone there with a 444 had success with the new templates?

Thanks in advance,

Luis

Luis, This may have something to do with you selecting TV Blocks Overscan to 2 in FitCD. Try setting it to 1 and 0 and then see what the results are. I had the same problem.

A-Star

vignes 09-01-2002 06:16 AM

Howdy!
I noticed your new KVCDx3 MPEG-2 PAL template nevertheless has Video Format set to NTSC. Is this an error or a special tweak?

And while questions are in order, if this template is mpeg-2, would it not be better to have it interlaced instead of the present non-interlace?

Also, I noticed the motion search is set to motion estimate search (fast). Would there be an advantage to setting this to normal or slow settings?

vbest regards,
vignes

kwag 09-01-2002 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vignes
Howdy!
I noticed your new KVCDx3 MPEG-2 PAL template nevertheless has Video Format set to NTSC. Is this an error or a special tweak?

And while questions are in order, if this template is mpeg-2, would it not be better to have it interlaced instead of the present non-interlace?

Also, I noticed the motion search is set to motion estimate search (fast). Would there be an advantage to setting this to normal or slow settings?

vbest regards,
vignes

Thanks vignes :oops:
Again stupidity strikes me 8O
It's fixed. Template and updated the .zip file.
Yes, it's now set to interlaced. For motion estimation, I've found that the "Fast" mode does a better job reducing artifacts around edges.

-kwag

gopalkk 09-01-2002 07:38 PM

Hi Kwag

Most of my DVD sources are NTSC 29.970 fps Interlaced.
Most of these DVD are created from Wide-screen movie sources of India (which uses PAL TVs).

Would it be better not to apply IVTC and encode them as Interlaced
with MPEG-2_NTSC_KVCDx3 template.

I was doing SmartRipper->DVD2AVI->FitCD (IVTC Telecide filter added)->TMPGEnc w/ MPEG-2_NTSC_KVCDx3 template.

It also saves encode time by 50% less if I dont use Telecide.

Anyway, i will give it shot by using interlaced
Pl. advice.
TIA

muaddib 09-01-2002 11:58 PM

Talking about the KVCDx3_MPEG2:
If the source is NTSC interlaced, it's better to leave encode as interlace,
but if it's not interlaced, it's better to set 3:2 pulldown.
Am I right? :roll: :?:

kwag 09-02-2002 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muaddib
Talking about the KVCDx3_MPEG2:
If the source is NTSC interlaced, it's better to leave encode as interlace,
but if it's not interlaced, it's better to set 3:2 pulldown.
Am I right? :roll: :?:

Yes, and that's why I left the default on the MPEG-2 template as 3:2 pulldown, assuming most encodes would be from FILM 24fps :wink:

-kwag

DaDe 09-02-2002 11:25 AM

I didn't understood the last one... you mean not to deinterlace interlaced movies? and if its is film make 3:2 pull down?????' what does that mean?

Thanks!
DaDe.

gopalkk 09-02-2002 05:31 PM

Sorry, I dont get it.

1. If I am using MPEG-2 template, should I de-interlace it or not?
2. If it is 29.970fps Interlaced NTSC (Not >95% Film) and this DVD is created from an Indian theatrical movie source (PAL is TV format in India),
should I use force film or not? I am doing Telecide+Decimate and its OK but If I could use Force Film, the encode will be lot faster.

Please help

TIA

kwag 09-02-2002 06:57 PM

DaDe & gopalkk

If you use the MPEG-2 template, and the movie is FILM, you encode at 23.976 with the 3:2 pulldown enabled.
If your movie is 29.97 interlaced, then you encode at 29.97 interlaced
If DVD2AVI says >95% FILM, don't use Telecide and Decimate. Just set "Force FILM" and then encode at 23.976 with the 3:2 flag. Again, this is only related to MPEG-2.

-kwag

syk2c11 09-02-2002 08:06 PM

Having mentioned about interlaced mpeg-2 KVCDx3, I have tried to encoded a ripped DVD (29.97, NTSC, interlaced) by using KVCDx3 mpeg-2 template, I also selected interlace in Tmpeg (encoding method), but I still see combing effect in regular 29" TV. I think I have heard somewhere in this forum that I won't see those combing effect if it is encoded as interlaced when viewing on TV. Have I done anything wrong? I am tired of being suffered from those "ghosting" effect caused by de-interlacing.

kwag 09-02-2002 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syk2c11
Having mentioned about interlaced mpeg-2 KVCDx3, I have tried to encoded a ripped DVD (29.97, NTSC, interlaced) by using KVCDx3 mpeg-2 template, I also selected interlace in Tmpeg (encoding method), but I still see combing effect in regular 29" TV. I think I have heard somewhere in this forum that I won't see those combing effect if it is encoded as interlaced when viewing on TV. Have I done anything wrong? I am tired of being suffered from those "ghosting" effect caused by de-interlacing.

You must burn as SVCD. Not as VCD. SVCD supports interlaced video. VCD's do not.

-kwag

syk2c11 09-02-2002 09:20 PM

Kwag,
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I did burn as SVCD, I still have combing effect. Does it have anything to do with the DVD player?

kwag 09-02-2002 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syk2c11
Kwag,
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I did burn as SVCD, I still have combing effect. Does it have anything to do with the DVD player?

What happens if you make a standard interlaced SVCD 480x480 from that source. Does it still show the same effect?

-kwag

syk2c11 09-02-2002 09:52 PM

I will give try it tonight and will let you know the result, thanks!

gopalkk 09-02-2002 10:43 PM

My source is DVD created from Indian theatrical movies

Aspect Ratio= 4:3
Frame Rate= 29.970 fps
Video Type= NTSC
Current Type=
Frame Type= Interlaced

I have been successful using Telecide+Decimate to apply pulldown.

syk2c11 09-03-2002 01:19 AM

gopalkk,
Would you please give me the exact script that you used in FitCD to deal with interlaced NTSC DVDs, 50% of the DVDs available in my town are in this format, I hate de-interlacing!

For your information, I use Smartripper-->DVD2AVI-->FitCD-->VirtualDub-->Tmpeg. Thanks!

gopalkk 09-03-2002 04:29 AM

add Those three lines at exact same place in FitCD output.

Kwag, correct me If i am loosing quality with these filters.

LoadPlugin("D:\DVD2AVI186\\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\mpeg\baghat singh\bagath.d2v")

LoadPlugin("D:\DVD2AVI186\decomb.dll")
Telecide(reverse=false,swap=false,firstlast=false, post=true,threshold=15,dthreshold=9,blend=true,chr oma=false,y0=0,y1=0)
Decimate(cycle=5,mode=0,threshold=0)

BilinearResize(496,448,0,2,704,476)
#TemporalSmoother(2,2)
AddBorders(24,16,24,16)

syk2c11 09-03-2002 05:19 AM

Does this script change the frame rate from 29.97 to 23.97? What frame rate should I use in Tmpeg then? Does this script for KVCDx3 mpeg-1 or mpeg-2? If it is for KVCDx3 mpeg-2, do I select 3:2 pulldown or interlace? Many thanks!


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