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kwag 04-25-2002 12:18 PM

Compatible Models
 
The following models play the default KVCD format correctly, without any Audio/Video synchronization problems.

The standard KVCD template resolution is 352x480.
Some DVD players won't play at this resolution, but in most cases, you can change the output resolution to 352x240 and they will play correctly.

Please add your Make/Model to this thread.


Panasonic RP-56
Sony NS300
JVC XV-F80 7 Disc Changer
Panasonic Portable DVD-L10
DMR-E20 DVD-R/DVD-RAM Player/Recorder

Happy Playback!
kwag

kwag 04-26-2002 03:37 AM

Pioneer 333
 
Pioneer 333.
This model has been reported to be compatible by changing the output resolution on the KVCD template from 352x480 to 352x240.

bilbogod 04-26-2002 06:51 AM

Eclipse-695 compatible with PAL 352 x 288, uncompatible with 480 x 480

Pnumonic 04-26-2002 10:34 AM

Sanyo 7201 fully compatible (PAL) 352x288 352x576 + standard VCD and SVCD,MP3 :twisted: - Also have the firmware upgrade for this model to convert it to region free, works with RCE DVD's too. just have to burn the image to CD - So no chipping involved.

Toshiba SD200E OK with VCD but wont play SVCD or Kwag's templates :cry:

el_mero_zooter 04-26-2002 04:48 PM

Two more models
 
Panasonic RV31-- plays Kwag's templates straight out da box beautifully.


Apex AD-1500--plays Kwag's templates if the file(s) have been demuxed and RE-muxed with bbmpg 1.8 as SVCD. ThX bman.


zooter

dvd888 04-26-2002 05:10 PM

Just Tried all the sample mpeg files created by KVCD templates,
Hitachi DVP323 can play KVCD/PLUS/KVCDx2/KVCDx3 format correctly.

Anonymous 04-27-2002 11:08 AM

Finlux DVD 510 / Sony Sony DAV-S300
 
Finlux DVD 510

I'm sure about 352x240 working, even on a PAL TV.

Not sure yet about 352x480, lots of blocks, but could be my encoding.

Interestingly the Fast Forward worked on 352x240, not on 352x480.

Also tried Sony DAV-S300 with 352x240, works fine. Remember the CD-R problems mentioned on VCDhelp.com though

kwag 04-28-2002 02:06 PM

Apex AD-600A works fine at 352x240 ( or 352x288 )
 
Just verified that the Apex AD-600A plays fine by just modifying the output resoultion from 352x480 to 352x240 ( or 352x288 if you are using the PAL template ).

Leave all other parameters as they are.

kwag

deltaboy 04-28-2002 08:26 PM

JVC XV-S60BK

plays VCDs, SVCDs, XVCDs. 352x480 plays great!
plays ALL cd storage media. dont know about dvdr(w) tho.
tested bitrates up to 2500 and as low as 300. works fine.

DrChumley 04-29-2002 09:23 AM

Re: Two more models
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by el_mero_zooter
Panasonic RV31-- plays Kwag's templates straight out da box beautifully.
zooter

I have had mixed results with the template on my RV31. Sometimes it plays beautifully, other times, the motion will be jerky and the audio plays back at a slower speed...(I tune pianos, so I noticed that the pitch of the music and voices was drastically lower). This only happens on occasion.
When that happens, I can get it to work if I encode the file with all the same settings, but as an MPEG-2 file, and then remux it back into an MPEG-1. Doing that, I can only get about 90 minutes on one disc, with certain source files, that's the only way I can get them to work.

DrC

bman 04-29-2002 10:48 AM

Re: Two more models
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrChumley
Quote:

Originally Posted by el_mero_zooter
Panasonic RV31-- plays Kwag's templates straight out da box beautifully.
zooter

I have had mixed results with the template on my RV31. Sometimes it plays beautifully, other times, the motion will be jerky and the audio plays back at a slower speed...(I tune pianos, so I noticed that the pitch of the music and voices was drastically lower). This only happens on occasion.
When that happens, I can get it to work if I encode the file with all the same settings, but as an MPEG-2 file, and then remux it back into an MPEG-1. Doing that, I can only get about 90 minutes on one disc, with certain source files, that's the only way I can get them to work.

DrC

Hi DrChumley !

Try to encode file as MPEG-1 non standard , demux and remux with bbMPEG as SVCD ( top line , two params checked works fine for me ) .
I suggest to try that - I've "Armageddon" ~145min on one disk with CQ67
Kwag's template (more than fine quality).

Play some with top two line params in video multiplex settings .
I hope it'll solve the problem

bman

Mario 04-30-2002 12:51 PM

Standalone DVD/VCD Players
 
Cyberhome AD-L 528 works fine at 352x288 resolution.

Have not yet tried 352x576

trunksgt72 05-07-2002 01:16 AM

I just tried the Samples at 352 x 480 and at 352 x 240 on an Apex 1200 (NTSC model)... Here it what I found... At 352 x 480 the images are elongated and corrupted displaying only one frame every few seconds... Now at 352 x 240 they played back very well but the quality was Good not great (could just be TMPG as I re-encoded to the lower Resolution using the KVCD Template)... OverAll very Nice Work... Now to see how my Captures look on this... I'll be using this alot... Great Work Guys...

belial96 05-12-2002 06:24 AM

Just to say that it works fine on a Sony DVP-NS305
CQ=70, 320*288 or 320.588 PAL
eg : American History X = 1CD great quality

Cubbs 05-14-2002 04:30 AM

Samsung DVD-P421 KVCD test results:

Burned "bug" sample, no changes as non-compliant VCD.
Result: Green macro blocks covering 80% of the picture, desynced sound.

Burned "bug" sample, TMPGEnc reencoded to x240, non-compliant VCD.
Result: Normal picture, but frame and sound skips.

Burned "bug" sample, remuxed with BBMpeg to SVCD, burned as SVCD.
Result: Perfect picture, perfect sound. Synchrony!

The final test looked great, and as far as I can tell, is perfect.

BTW, this DVD player is pretty cool. Even random plays MP3 discs! 8O

kwag 05-14-2002 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cubbs
Samsung DVD-P421 KVCD test results:

Burned "bug" sample, no changes as non-compliant VCD.
Result: Green macro blocks covering 80% of the picture, desynced sound.

Burned "bug" sample, TMPGEnc reencoded to x240, non-compliant VCD.
Result: Normal picture, but frame and sound skips.

Burned "bug" sample, remuxed with BBMpeg to SVCD, burned as SVCD.
Result: Perfect picture, perfect sound. Synchrony!

The final test looked great, and as far as I can tell, is perfect.

BTW, this DVD player is pretty cool. Even random plays MP3 discs! 8O

Hi Cubbs:
At what resolution did it work after re-muxing as SVCD?
352x240 or 352x480?
Or did it work at both?

kwag

Cubbs 05-14-2002 03:09 PM

It worked in the KVCD standard 352x480. I didn't bother trying the x240.

slab 05-14-2002 03:22 PM

Daewoo DVD-5800 gauntlet
 
Daewoo DVD-5800

Great little unit...I like the sound quality and it gulped up everything I threw at it. DVD, MP3, CD-RW, VCD, SVCD, 74/80/90, CDR, VBR, CQ....except the KVCD at 352 x 480!.....DANG!...Tried every idea I know or have researched, just does not like the 480 in MPEG-1..Although, it works fine at 352 x 240 and NTSC with PAL resolutions :wink: .... SVCD's are truely awesome on this thing, so I tried KVCD'S setting in MPEG 2..Bingo! not a problem, works nicely and the file sizes are close....UPDATED

KWAG (NTSC) TEMPLATE'S MPEG-1

KVCD(NSTCFilm)-352x240 YES
KVCD(NSTCFilm)-352x288 YES* Change "Video-size"

KVCD(NSTCFilm)-352x480 NO
KVCD(NSTCFilm)-352x576 YES* Change "Video-size"

KVCDx2(NSTCFilm)1CD-704x480 NO
KVCDx2(NSTCFilm)1CD-704x576 YES* Change "Video-size"

KVCDx2(NSTCFilm)2CD-704x480 NO
KVCDx2(NSTCFilm)2CD-704x576 YES* Change "Video-size"

KDVD(NTSC-Half-D1)352x480 YES
KDVD(NTSC-Full-D1)720x480 YES

KWAG (PAL) TEMPLATE'S

No tests performed with PAL framerates

Phred 05-17-2002 10:04 AM

Memorex MVD2027
 
Add the Memorex MVD2027 to the list of compatible players. Just tried a KVCD disk and it worked great (352x240, CQ80). Have also played AudioCD, VCD, SVCD, XVCD and MP3 disks without problems.

Snake345 05-17-2002 06:41 PM

Works with the Panasonic DVD-RV26, although at the start of the movies there will be a few seconds of black then the movie will start playing though. Not enough not to use the template though.

JT 06-03-2002 01:52 AM

Samples work fine with portable Mintek DVD-1710.

DaDe 06-04-2002 09:24 AM

I'm happy to inform that the SONY DVP NS315 and the SONY DVP NS400D played a movie made with the KVCDx2 NTSC(without changes) for one cd template perfectly! i mean there was no visible blocks, the colors where great and the audio was just awsome! I tried too a PIONEER 535 and it had audio issues, tried a panasonic wich is a stereo too(with radio am/fm sorry i dont remember the model) and it played pretty fine, almost like the sony's, not so great image quality but it hadn't any audio or video issues. By the way my KONKA 1800U doesn't played at all just a green big square in al the TV, so sad :cry:

So for KVCDx2:

SONY NS315: Rocks!
SONY NS400D: Rocks!
PIONEER 535: Audio Issues
KONKA 1800U: Doesn't work

Congrats to all of you who have a sony!

DaDe.

Phred 06-04-2002 12:03 PM

Re: Memorex MVD2027
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phred
Add the Memorex MVD2027 to the list of compatible players. Just tried a KVCD disk and it worked great (352x240, CQ80). Have also played AudioCD, VCD, SVCD, XVCD and MP3 disks without problems.

After following the topics on using 352x480 vs 352x240, I tried a couple of encodes using 352x480 and the video was great, but in all of the examples I tried, the audio was choppy. The sound would play for a couple of seconds, then there would be silence, then sound again, then silence, etc. Encoding the exact same clip with 352x240 cause the sound problem to go away.

DazJWood 06-05-2002 07:02 AM

Page of compatible players
 
This is a good thread to share successes of players with different templates but doesn't really display the information very easily.

Is there going to be any move towards having a dedicated page listing players and if they are compatible with the various templates? Something similar to the VCD Help compatible players page would be ideal.

kwag 06-05-2002 11:58 AM

Re: Page of compatible players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DazJWood
This is a good thread to share successes of players with different templates but doesn't really display the information very easily.

Is there going to be any move towards having a dedicated page listing players and if they are compatible with the various templates? Something similar to the VCD Help compatible players page would be ideal.

Hi DazJWood:

Eventually, when I get more time, I'll start reading through this thread and make a "Read-Only" list of players and post a link in the main page.

kwag

DaDe 06-07-2002 02:05 PM

Meanwhile, for KVCD (original without changes) template:

SONY DVP NS315S: Perfect!
SONY DVP NS400D: Doesnt liked it!
KONKA 1800U: Perfect!

So, for those who doesn't want to reencode again movies made with past templates and want to enjoy the quality of the new ones, the NS315S or NS315B is the choice, this beauty plays, cd-r, cd-rw, dvd-r, dvd-rw, dvd+rw, mp3, vcd and of course KVCD's!!

Good Luck!

Rookie 06-09-2002 04:13 PM

After I updated my Yamakawa 715 to the newest firmware(openfirmware miniDVD Version to be precise) it plays all samples without a hitch ... bevore that it was sort of vomiting pixels all over the screen :wink:

HuGGies 06-10-2002 01:56 PM

Does anyone have info on the Sony NS500V if you do let me know :lol: Thx..

Joshi 06-12-2002 03:36 AM

Grundig GDV-130 FW2.36 :D

PAL 352x288, 352x576, 480x576, 704x576, 720x576 as MPEG1 CBR or VBR, MPEG2 CBR or VBR
burnt as VCD, SVCD or ISO (using the built-in file explorer)

MPEG-1 muxed as non-standard VCD (= timedisplay is wrong)
MPEG-1 muxed as SVCD (= timedisplay is correct)

This machine even can handle MPEG1 Layer III audiostrems inside VCD, SVCD.

cracker 06-14-2002 04:50 AM

GE 5803p 3 disk changer

plays all templates BUT you have to change the fps to 30.which makes the file size bigger.

MoovyGuy 06-14-2002 06:22 AM

Both the JVCV-521BK and the Pioneer DV-343 were able to use Kwags KDVD template at both Full and Half D1 resolutions.

Full D1 - 5000 kb max bitrate
Half D1 - 2500 kb max bitrate

Otherwise all params at default.

Discs were burned onto DVD+R from a HP200i using ULead DVD Moviefactory or DVD Workshop.

Only the Pioneer would play same using DVD+RW.

:D :lol: :P

kwag 06-14-2002 01:03 PM

That's great news MoovyGuy :lol:
Now we wait until the DVD(X)R media becomes cheaper, which shouldn't be too long!.

kwag

rendalunit 06-15-2002 12:34 AM

the SONY DVP-NC600 plays kvcdx2 perfectly!
 
just to update your compatability list :)

kwag 06-15-2002 12:56 AM

Re: the SONY DVP-NC600 plays kvcdx2 perfectly!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rendalunit
just to update your compatability list :)

Thanks rendalunit.
Done.

kwag

blackbird666 06-15-2002 05:20 AM

The Toshiba SD-210E works with all your templates pal and ntsc
Kwag. :)

BoxOfSnoo 06-15-2002 06:44 AM

RCA 5240P
 
The new 352x240 template has the exact same tweaks I made to get it to play just right on my 5240P! I thought I was reckless lowering the upper bitrate that low..

Works well.

What's the difference between the 5220P and the 5240P, anyways?

kwag 06-15-2002 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackbird666
The Toshiba SD-210E works with all your templates pal and ntsc
Kwag. :)

Hi blackbird666:

Is this an NTSC or PAL model?. I have mixed reports from this player. Mostly are that it doesn't work with any KVCD template.

kwag

Spyglass 06-16-2002 09:09 AM

Sylvania
 
Finally got round to determining what plays properly on my DVD player.

Sylvania DV2000:

KVCD-CQ-352x240-(NTSCFilm)-1CD.mcf - Works fine.
KVCD-CQ-352x480-(NTSCFilm)-1CD.mcf - No Luck, even SVCD Remux.
KVCDx2-CQ-704x480-(NTSCFilm)-1CD.mcf - Works with SVCD Remux, but picture choppy. I can't find the correct VBV Buffer value to fix this.

Spyglass.

amarko 06-16-2002 12:03 PM

Toshiba
 
Toshiba SD - 2800 works just fine. Thank you

blackbird666 06-17-2002 01:06 PM

its the pal version and will play almost anything


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