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nevs 09-09-2020 12:22 PM

Hybrid settings, AVI to x264, advice for best settings?
 
Hi,

Looking to use Hybrid 2020 to convert lossless avi huffyuv to h.264 (mp4).

This is mostly for PC playback or streaming to smart TVs etc from a NAS drive over ethernet.

So I am looking for smaller file sizes whilst keeping some quality.

Whilst doing so, also looking to deinterlace with QTGMC.

My footage is pal 720x576@25fps interlaced from old Hi8/Video 8 tapes.

Questions I need some expert advice on:

Video settings: your thoughts?

Encoding mode: 1pass CRF
Quantization factor: 18
Calculation precision: What should this be?
Output colour space: i422
AVC profile: High4:2:2 unrestricted
Preset: Medium

Crop/Resize Settings: your thoughts?

Should I just leave as output 720x576?
Output PAR: leave o go for MP4 PAL 4:3?

QTGMC settings: your thoughts?
Preset - Fast or medium?
Bob - assume enabled to get 50fps with less loss of quality?

Audio Settings: your thoughts?
Formataac
Bitrate: 384 or overkill? 192 more suited given source perhaps?

Any other hybrid settings I need to lookout for or enable/disable as new to the program?

Thank you.

-- merged --

Full settings are:
Quote:

x264 --crf 18.00 --profile high422 --ref 3 --keyint 250 --min-keyint 0 --scenecut 40 --bframes 3 --b-bias 0 --b-pyramid normal --direct spatial --b-adapt 1 --sync-lookahead 6 --cplxblur 20.0 --qcomp 0.6 --qblur 0.5 --mbtree --rc-lookahead 40 --ipratio 1.4 --pbratio 1.3 --chroma-qp-offset 0 --qpmin 0 --qpmax 51 --qpstep 4 --partitions i4x4,i8x8,p8x8,b8x8 --8x8dct --me hex --merange 16 --mvrange -1 --subme 7 --cabac --trellis 1 --psy-rd 1.00:0.00 --weightp 2 --aq-mode 1 --aq-strength 1.0 --nr 0 --deadzone-inter 21 --deadzone-intra 11 --cqm flat --threads auto --sar 1:1 --qpfile GENERATED_QP_FILE --deblock 0:0 --non-deterministic --range tv --colormatrix bt470bg --demuxer raw --input-res 720x576 --input-range tv --input-depth 8 --fps 50/1 --output-csp i422 --output-depth 8 --output "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXx" -

zackhammerle 09-11-2020 10:57 AM

I’m in the same boat as you, just a step behind because I can’t figure out how to get huffyuv to show up in VDub. From most things that I’ve read on here I’ve taken it as if you can leave most of the settings as default on Hybrid, however I’m not entirely sure. Could really use someone that knows what they’re talking about here.

nevs 09-11-2020 11:08 AM

For that, see http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...html#post11627

Just put the files in C:\ drive, then follow instructions.

It will then appear on vdub.

lordsmurf 09-11-2020 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zackhammerle (Post 71375)
I can’t figure out how to get huffyuv to show up in VDub.

Always search the forum. nves linked it one of the threads for you, there are several.

Quote:

From most things that I’ve read on here I’ve taken it as if you can leave most of the settings as default on Hybrid,
Many, not all. And it depends on both source (VHS, BD, etc) and output (compressed, less compressed archive, etc).

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevs (Post 71336)
So I am looking for smaller file sizes whilst keeping some quality.
also looking to deinterlace with QTGMC.
My footage is pal 720x576@25fps interlaced from old Hi8/Video 8 tapes.

Good to know.

Questions I need some expert advice on:

Quote:

Video settings: your thoughts?
Encoding mode: 1pass CRF
Quantization factor: 18
Calculation precision: What should this be?
Output colour space: i422
AVC profile: High4:2:2 unrestricted
Preset: Medium
For that source, I'd do CRF 15, 422, 8bit.
But I also make a lot of changes in the advanced. The default GOP/frame defaults are too low, compression not ideal. I'm not at my video system right now to paste it. But the two sliders are slid over the 5 frame each.

Quote:

Crop/Resize Settings: your thoughts?
Should I just leave as output 720x576?
Output PAR: leave o go for MP4 PAL 4:3?
720x540 for a 4:3 watch/display ratio

Quote:

QTGMC settings: your thoughts?
Preset - Fast or medium?
Bob - assume enabled to get 50fps with less loss of quality?
Faster
Bob for 50
Remember to force, not auto.
Overwrite(force) top(TFF)

Quote:

Audio Settings: your thoughts?
Formataac
Bitrate: 384 or overkill? 192 more suited given source perhaps?
FDKAAC 160
Anything over 160 for stereo is overkill. AAC isn't MP3. Bitrates as low as 96 are very adequate.

Quote:

Any other hybrid settings I need to lookout for or enable/disable as new to the program?
Frame, NR 1 helps compression quite a bit.
Adaptive quant manual, Trellis always

nevs 09-11-2020 12:22 PM

4 Attachment(s)
Hi,

Thanks so as per pic attachments / your advice:

Frames - Look ok?
Rate Control - anything there?
Quant- Look ok?
Deinterlace - I had to click auto inorder to set QTGMC? I assume this forces it??

Is there a problem with leaving resolution at 720x576?

Thank you.

EmielBoss 04-24-2021 12:01 PM

I'm in the exact same situation as you are. What settings did you end up using? Do you mind sharing screenshots?

Also, is there a difference between using QTGMC with AviSynth and using QTGMC with VapourSynth? Is any of the two better?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordsmurf (Post 71377)
For that source, I'd do CRF 15, 422, 8bit.
But I also make a lot of changes in the advanced. The default GOP/frame defaults are too low, compression not ideal.

Would you give different advice for a VHS source? And what about a VHS of an animated (Disney) movie?

Closecall 04-14-2022 03:29 PM

I also am in this boat but in NTSC. I did some renders with the settings LordSmurf showed from his screenshots but the movement looks strange like it has a shadowed image following behind the movement. Has anyone else had this kind of issue?

Also do the other multitude of tabs require any changes for doing a starting deinterlace?

Thank you

DEAGS1978 10-11-2022 05:32 PM

Shadow
 
Change the top field to bottom that will fix it


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