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conquest10

04-03-2003 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

Latest test:

Code:

SpaceDust() 

sharpen(0.7) 

mergechroma(blur(1.58)) 

mergeluma(blur(0.7))

Lowered the sharpen just a tad, and I was able to get rid of temporal filters completely.
Has anyone noticed that using this combination of filters, there's hardly any visible artifacts and/or blocks on dark scenes :?: It looks more like noise, which gives a more natural feel.
Look at this 10 second KVCDx3 sample, encoded with the above script using a CQ of 60 8O , which is the way this 117 minute full screen movie looks on one CD. It's from the movie "City by the sea": http://www.kvcd.net/city-by-the-sea.mpg

-kwag

what was the min/max you used for this? my encodes seem to never look as good as yours.

kwag	04-03-2003 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conquest10

what was the min/max you used for this? my encodes seem to never look as good as yours.

MIN=300, MAX=2,500 :)

-kwag

NoDRoGG

04-03-2003 03:15 AM

avisynth

Kwag, which version of Avisynth do you use? When I tried your script mentioned in the beginnning of this topic, the DCT- and STMedianfilter require avisynth 2.50. But the sansgrip resize/crop and dustv5 dll's dont't work with avisynth 2.50.

What's the solution?

Kane	04-03-2003 07:17 AM

use avisynth 2.08
all those fitlers works well with this version

digitalize

04-03-2003 07:30 AM

Somebody important on this site please contact the Dust filter guy. I really like the speed of the new AviSynth 2.51, it is a huge difference on a Pentium 4, and would still like to use the dust filters. I would even donate by PayPal to get his butt moving. So for now I am stuck with Convolution3d. Convolution3d really works wonders on those grainy DVDs though. Since I do not have an HDTV, I really do not notice the blurring you guys talk about with Convolution3d.

Wolfi

04-03-2003 08:42 AM

Maybe a silly question, but what is " blur luma threshold " and " blur chroma threshold " ?

I found the line when I was reading TemporalCleaner, this part :arrow:

ythresh (default value = 5) : blur luma threshold (don't go above 8 otherwise you'll have
some ghosting).

cthresh (default value = 10) : blur chroma threshold (you can safely go a little above 8 as
if luma is above threshold -> chroma is automatically kept (no blur)).

//Wolfi

PEKISOFT

04-03-2003 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane

use avisynth 2.08
all those fitlers works well with this version

DCTFilter only works with 2.5 ¿?

Kane	04-03-2003 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PEKISOFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane

use avisynth 2.08
all those fitlers works well with this version

DCTFilter only works with 2.5 ¿?

yes it does work with 2,08, although the readme says: avisynth 2.5

@ kwag

this threat is going to explode in a couple of days, if we all continue posting so much.

what about threat called: script discussion
and this threat "latest script" just contains a few script, which we think are the best at the moment?

kwag	04-03-2003 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane

what about threat called: script discussion
and this threat "latest script" just contains a few script, which we think are the best at the moment?

That was the main idea of this topic, but I can see that it has falled into avisynth questions, etc., which should really be posted on the AviSynth forum :roll:
I'll create a new "Read Only" thread that I can update with the current test script and suggestions.

-kwag

Kane	04-03-2003 10:29 AM

it´s very difficult to draw a line between script and avisynth
a new script will of course cause questions: (why this, why that?)
the "read only" threat is a good idea, just pure information

kwag	04-03-2003 10:34 AM

I just created a "Sticky" post 8)

-kwag

DorvalCS

04-03-2003 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

I just created a "Sticky" post 8)

-kwag

Thank you Sire! :D :D :D

DorvalCS

Reno	04-03-2003 01:23 PM

Hey Kwag,
It seems these new scripts are trying to find a peaceful medium between speed and quality.

What do you consider the best filters for turtles like me who don't mind waiting forever for their encodes??

kwag	04-03-2003 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reno

What do you consider the best filters for turtles like me who don't mind waiting forever for their encodes??

You could play with C3D or other temporal filters, and use very conservative low values :idea:

-kwag

rendalunit

04-03-2003 01:43 PM

Code:

GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")

@kwag, how come you're not using bilinear resize anymore? (sorry if I missed that discussion somewhere :wink:)

ren

Jellygoose

04-03-2003 01:45 PM

hi kwag...

Ok, I like the quality you get with this new script (no more ghosting and weird artifacts with movement), and I totally love the speed.
however the filesize is not just a little above the old script... :cry:
For me filesize went up by 1.2MB for 2 minutes. that's a lot more than I can "afford" right now :wink: .
when I increase the luma blur value, picture looks like it's smearing again. :cry:
any ideas about what to do?

Jellygoose

04-03-2003 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendalunit

Code:

GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")

@kwag, how come you're not using bilinear resize anymore? (sorry if I missed that discussion somewhere :wink:)

ren

that's a good one. I'd like to know too...

kwag	04-03-2003 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellygoose

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendalunit

Code:

GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")

@kwag, how come you're not using bilinear resize anymore? (sorry if I missed that discussion somewhere :wink:)

ren

that's a good one. I'd like to know too...

The picture is slightly sharper with Bicubic :wink:

kwag	04-03-2003 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellygoose

Hi Jellygoose,

Even after you lower the CQ to match the file size of the old scripts, the picture still looks better. Try it :D. And don't go beyond 1.0 on luma. It smears the picture. I'm using 0.7.

-kwag

PyRoMaNiA

04-03-2003 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reno

What do you consider the best filters for turtles like me who don't mind waiting forever for their encodes??

You could play with C3D or other temporal filters, and use very conservative low values :idea:

I don't mind waiting forever either if it means better quality! :D
Would Convolution3D(preset="movieHQ") be conservative enough? And if so, where would you suggest it should go? After SpaceDust()?

I also noticed you're not using DCTFilter anymore...is it still needed :?:

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