inc,
could you post the besweet parameters you use to convert your ac3 to 256 kbps? (and, if you're so kind, I know you are :wink: , the parameters to convert ac3 5.1 to 2.0). And second, but not last, where can I find this besweet version with ac3enc support? (I mean, if it's not buggy, since I read that besweet is not good for ac3 encoding...)

I also think this would be great :!: I wait 8O for your suggestions on how to do such a thing.

vmesquita,
good job :wink:

@vm,

vm wrote:
More questions:

1) vrc_buf_size in 1cd-kvcd.conf is 917 and the above suggests 327.
Which is correct???

2) vrc_maxbitrate in icd-kvcd.conf is 2500. With CQMatic method using
Tmpgenc the maxbitrate is set to 2000. Does it matter which one
should be used.

3) The default CD size is 795 in 1cd-kvcd.conf. Is this optimal or have
you accounted for some overhead and what?

Thanks :)

-BP

I have to check tmpgenc templates to see, but I think it's correct. I think 327 should be used for 352x240 low bitrate encodes only.
I think it's better to use the highest max possible (that doesn't cause playback problems) in mencoder to avoid blocking.
MEncodeME 0.21 takes overhead in account, and you can alter overhead if you wish. Download the latest version. :wink:

@ Digi Doc

a) Its the new beta release of "BeSweet v1.5b26"
http://dspguru.notrace.dk/beta.htm

Also the "VOBInput.dll v1.3" Plugin would be interesting as in case of feeding mencoder by a single VOB directly, you "could" encode the audio out of the vob DIRECTLY:
http://dspguru.notrace.dk/plug-ins.htm

b) Just open the BesweetGUI and do set everything as you would do it via BesweetGUI .... means SET EVERYTHING: Input, output and every parameter as you shurely know how to work using besweet, right?

Next is to copy the generated Commandline to your Clipboard and generate a txt document where you paste it.
As you will see, you gonna feel like home! As everything is just a command line using optimal parameters as they have been set in Besweet.
Just change in that commandline the in- and output patch in the future.

By this you can generate general commandline "templates" for AC3toAC3 or AC3toMP2(44.1khz) and these ones also each in one 5.1to2.0 and one in 5.1to5.1 versions ..... :D

As I heared the new ac3enc.dll is now fixed (I hope so) cause till now I got no issues at my last 3 encodings.

Also you can use a AC3 decoding/encoding capable build of ffmpeg.exe and its parameters BUT as I heared thats the engine where also that old buggy ac3enc.dll based on??!

And ... look at Doom9.org for Vmesquitas reply for the commandline usage of SoftEncode as it should be the best encoder as I heared.

Do you can smell how Im in love with that commandline processing! :lol:
Everyting is in batch and you also can download that "shutdown.exe", place it at the very end by using

shutdown -u

.... and after all is done :arrow: the light goes off.

Inc :wink:

Hi guys, Win 98 or ME can't access local NTFS partitions you would need to install something like NTFS for DOS and run it when you need access.

i would not recomend this though.

I would install WinXP or even Win2K if you have an older system.

I smell that every day :lol:
Specially from a developer's point of view, where I don't have to think about the time it takes to design/test/debug the GUI, and wire (code) up all events :x :!: :lol:

-kwag

! :idea:
then post a big .bat file
:wink:

.......and maybe i learn something new ! :oops: but true!

Sound advice fozzieb Windows XP is much more stable and less problamatic that Windows 98SE since I upgraded from 98SE to XP I have never looked back. :)

This is defenitely no offense but ...

Could we keep this thread just a little bit in topic.
I think further going discussions on filesystem related subjects also will be seen and answered immediately when you post them separately. :wink:
So this Thread here wont end up in a chaos.

Thanks a lot! :)

@incredible

I agree, we can always start a new thread for other subjects

you're right ink!
:wink:

edited>
ink have reason (one more time) !

Hi Inc

I really like the idea of creating all this in one .Bat file :D
I have one question: Do you mux video and audio in the .Bat file too?
If you do, could you post your commandline for that?
That would make everything automated :D

Anerboda

Here an example of 3 movies to 1 dvd-r - batch file.
Watch the -include path in mencoder line! Its the path to one of Vmesquitas conf files. Also in here I determined AVI files as input, but as you see the logic of setting variables in the bat file, you can edite for your needings as you want.

Watch out that you have the latest besweet installed!
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....=asc&start=203
And also set in the batfile the path to besweet

And do search via google for "shutdown.exe" as it als has to be in the same folder as this bat

The lines below are still not elegand settet, they could be more "shrinked" iif more would be set to variables. But by this below you can see the logic,

@Inc

Thanks, I will look into that when I get home (I'm at work right now).

I can see that you don't mux video and audio in the .bat file, couldn't that be done with mplex.exe or bbmpeg?

Anerboda

Sorry if this has already been asked, this thread is getting kind of confusing... :lol:
With MencodeME, will there be any overscanning when encoding directly from VOB? :?:

Why muxing after encoding??
As I do all my things for DVD-R now Ill do that within the Authoring appl.

But for KVCD and KsVCD you also can call "mplex.exe" before shutdown using of the following parameters (you will know them from bbmpeg):

Do look at the beginning of this thread, there I explained how to modify an config file of Vmesquitas Templates to intergrate settings taken from FitCD or Moviestacker.

Crop().Resize().AddingBorders()

is here

Crop:scale:expand

:wink:


@VMesquita & Kwag

I authored now that DVD incl. 3movies in DVDlab Pro Beta1 and no more "GOP out of memory" did occur! :D

I was just wondering... If I encode a video with Forced Film do I have to use Pulldown afterwards, or is that taken care of internally by MEncoder :?:

You have to use pulldown, MEncoder does not enable 3:2 pulldown flag. :wink:

@vmesquita
Thank you for your fast reply :) . 3 more questions for you:
1) How well does MEncoder perform in MPEG-1?
2) What's the difference between No_Filter and makeAVI?
3) How much overhead shall I use if encoding to MPEG-1?

I don't know exactly, I am focus in developing the GUI so everyone can discover. :lol:
No filter resizes and add black borders if needed. MakeAVIs profile does not resize/add black borders, just feed the fake AVI to mencoder assuming that you already done that in your avs.
Use the default value. :wink:

Thank you again! :D

1 - Since mencoder and ffvfw both uses libavcodec what differences are you specting find out?
2 - Does mencoder.exe perform same work that ffvfw.dll?
3 - Could ffvfw GUI (control panel) to be used for mencoder.exe (some like rename mencoder.exe to ffvfw.dll)?

Speed! As Mencoder.exe is accesset direct from dos console.
Both do base on libavcodec so the engine "would" be by this the sameAs I know structures of exes and dlls are different and cant just be renamed ... to my understanding exes = executables .. dlls = libraries?

Well, for that I said "some like...". Programmers maybe will know that? Any way possibility?

@vmesquita,

More trouble with MencoderME v0.21 GUI. It now hangs up my system using 1 pass or
2 pass. I decided to take my settings from MencoderME GUI and create them in
a batch file. Everything ran without any problems. There were some strange results
thought. I used dvd2avi (.d2v), avisynth v2.54 motion adapative script (.avs),
MakeAVIS or FakeAVIS (.avi) as input to batch Mencoder. Then I used 1cd KVCD
target and MakeAVIS filter. I used CalcuMatic to get the bitrate for a 92minute
movie for 1 80min CDR with 64 kb audio. The bitrate was 1122. So far no problems.
I changed vrc_buf_size=327, vrc_maxbitrate=2500, and vbitrate=1122. My
predicted video file size should be 754MB and audio 42MB. I started the batch file
and 1 hour 30 minutes later the mpeg-1 file is done. There were some strange results.

1.. During the batch run the following message repeated over 40+ times
[mpeg1video@ 0x908410] rc buffer underflow 0mb A-V: 0.000 [0:0]
[mpeg1video@ 0x908410] warning, clipping 1 dct coefficients to –255..255
[mpeg1video@ 0x908410] warning, clipping 1 dct coefficients to –255..255

2.. The actual video file size of 448MB was way off from predicted size of 745MB.
Is there any way to get this accurate??

Comments:

The picture quality was very good this time and the entire movie was there with
a file size of 448MB. This batch test was 1 pass. I’d like to try 2 pass and
compare quality and file size. I see advantages with batch as being easier to
intergrate with a automated process. If there were a batch program with
commandlines for MakeAVIS this would be very easy.

-BP

Same here :!:
I got similar errors displayed. But I didn't use a batch file. I used a single command line, for test purposes.

-kwag

For some reason, this messages make the GUI hang, no idea why. Well, at least we know this. I'll try to find a stream that generated this kind of message when being encoded to MPEG1. Actually I didn't do any MPEG1 tests till now.

EDIT:
@BP
The undersize problem should have to do with that "can't quantisize less than this" problem. Maybe we should use a slower scplx_mask with mpeg1. This needs to be tested. So far most optimization was done with MPEG2.

EDIT2:
I think I found the MPEG1 problem. The messages to the error output stream (stderr in C++) were not being redirected. I already added this for the next version and now the GUI is showing "[mpeg1video @ 0x940380]warning, cliping 1 dct coefficents to -255..255" and continuing. I hope this fix works for everyone. :D

@Kwag,

BTW, in calculating Bitrate, I checked Moviestacker, CalcuMatic,
MPEG-1 bitrate calculator, MEncoderME GUI and
the DVD movie jewel case.

CalcuMatic was the most accurate:

DVD Movie: The Transporter
Movie Time: 92 minutes 8 seconds

CalcuMatic: Time: 92 min 8 sec
Moviestacker: Time: 90 min 20 sec
MEncoderME GUI: Time 90 min
MPEG-1 bitrate calculator: Time: 90 min 22 sec

Note:
In some of these programs a .d2v file is being read to get the time
and this may be why bitrate varied from 1073 to 1158. If file size
prediction relies on an accurate bitrate, CalcuMatic is a winner :wink:

-BP

@vmesquita,

Why not let the batch process display these messages instead of
capturing this display to a window. I wanted to add some suggestions
and wish options to MEncoderME v0.2x next release :wink:

1) Select output file name

2) Extend audio bitrate range to include 64, 80, 96, ....etc

3) PC Shutdown check box
This would add a shutdown program at the end of the batch file

4) Movie Time is not showing correctly where is it derived??

5) target 1cd KVCD should be changed for vrc_buf_size=327

BTW, what does Overhead represent (i.e. multiplex size)

EDIT- If it's possible could a batch file be created and saved for execution
so I can retry the run in batch. This is handy for debugging. Otherwise
I have to re-enter everyhing in MEncoderME to try again :)


Thanks

-BP

:D :tup:

-kwag

Another suggestion:

A button to clear log .

Because it's too ugly and newbie unfriendly. Come on, it took me months to understand how this can be done. Now you want to take it way and make it uglier? No way! :D
Good idea.
Less than 112 kbps for audio... I don't know, it can confuse people. This bitrate can only be used for mono.
OK, good idea.
It's shown correctly when reading AVIs. For MPEGs/VOBs, Iwould have to scan the whole file to calculate movie time. Maybe in the future.
Ok.
Yes, represents the extra size that appears when you join audio and video.
Done.

I'll release a new version today, with the MPEG1 problem fixed. :wink:

Nice idea, too. :D

Hi everyone,

0.22 is out! What's new:
- preview filters/crop options/resize using MPlayer throught a nice preview button
- Crop added. Now overscan is possible.
- Deinterlace via KernelDeint added
- Clear Log button
- MPEG1 crashing should be solved.
- command-line is saved as "encode.bat"

Get it here:
http://www.jltoca.uaivip.com.br/files/MencodeME022.zip
You also need to put a mencoder and mplayer (for preview) binary in the same folder. You can use this one:
http://www.jltoca.uaivip.com.br/file...40423-0019.zip

Você é uma máquina de programação do car****!!!!
(Translation: You are a fuc....(friendly sense) programing machine!!!!)
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Note: Edited by Mod. due to used terms in Portuguese

Hi Prodater,
I'm sorry but I had to edit your post.
Not that we see so many Portuguese speaking members, but we have to keep our maners.
Anyway now that it's fixed I have to say :arrow: I completely agree with you :!: :lol:
VM really is #$%#% programming machine :D
I just hope he keeps his pace.
Soon we'll have a GUI with all sexy options of MEncoder :wink:
Thanks V: you're da man :!: :D
Cheers

@ rds: :wink:

@ VM: Not really very important but, did you forget mplayer in you dist file?

Get it here:
http://www.jltoca.uaivip.com.br/file...40423-0019.zip

:wink:

Hi all,
This new mplayer that comes with 040423-0019 by VMesquita is funny.
Sorry VM. You're probably not responsible for that :wink:
Anyway it seems it's now using OpenGL to play my movies.
But it is way slower than previous builds and it says it is doing a YV12 :arrow: RGB colorspace convertion.
Well sometimes to take a step forward they have to take a step backwards...the price we pay for building technology :lol:
And my VGA card is already a bit outdated: nVidia TNT2 :(
Anyway I always wondered: how do they put that nice icon on mplayer executable file :roll: :?:
Eheh. I guess I'm not cut out for compilings :lol:
Cheers