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maurus 04-26-2004 06:34 PM

1) ¿Filter combo option in MEncoder-Me 0.22 is DVD if the souce es a DVD? ¿What means Filter combo?

2) MPlayer.exe and MEncoder.exe shoud be in the same directory than MEncoderme.exe?

I have this log when I try a encode from a .VOB:

Code:

Mencoder.exe -include temp.conf -lavcopts vbitrate=697:vpass=1 "D:\FINDING_NEMO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB" -o "D:\FINDING_NEMO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.mpv" MEncoder dev-CVS-040423-00:19-3.3.1 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team
Can't open '/cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/Mauricio/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
 
Can't open 'mplayer//codecs.conf': No such file or directory
 CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon Thunderbird 878.8 MHz (Family: 6, Stepping: 2)
File not found: 'frameno.avi'
 Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
Failed to open frameno.avi
 CPUflags: Type: 6 MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0
: No such file or directory
 Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE
 
 Reading /cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/Mauricio/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Reading mplayer//codecs.conf: Using built-in default codecs.conf.
 Reading config file /cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/Mauricio/.mplayer/mencoderReading config file temp.conf
 font: can't open file: /cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/Mauricio/.mplayer/font/font.desc
      5 [main] Mencoder 1840 handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ILLEGAL_INSTRUCTION
 font: can't open file: /usr/local/share/mplayer/font/font.desc
 success: format: 0  data: 0x0 - 0x43FDA800
 MPEG-PS file format detected.
  68082 [main] Mencoder 1840 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to Mencoder.exe.stackdump

Can you help me?

Thanks.


-Maurus

kwag 04-26-2004 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maurus
1) ¿Filter combo option in MEncoder-Me 0.22 is DVD if the souce es a DVD? ¿What means Filter combo?

The filter settings that vmesquita choose for that source. Like different scripts that we use, depending is source is AVI, DVD, Capture, etc.
Quote:


2) MPlayer.exe and MEncoder.exe shoud be in the same directory than MEncoderme.exe?
Yes.
Quote:


I have this log when I try a encode from a .VOB:

.......
68082 [main] Mencoder 1840 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to Mencoder.exe.stackdump

Can you help me?

Thanks.
Try another compiled version of Mencoder.

-kwag

maurus 04-26-2004 07:02 PM

Thanks Kwag. I'm trying with MEncoder.exe (17/04/2004) of MEncoder-Me 0.2 previous version and now the encoding is started.

Also I can't use preview option with current version of MEncoder-Me 0.22.

Thanks for all.


-Maurus

vmesquita 04-26-2004 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maurus
Also I can't use preview option with current version of MEncoder-Me 0.22.

You need a mplayer executable. :wink:

maurus 04-26-2004 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmesquita
Quote:

Originally Posted by maurus
Also I can't use preview option with current version of MEncoder-Me 0.22.

You need a mplayer executable. :wink:

I have mplayer.exe (included in MEncoderme 0.22) in the same directory...

Another question:

When I use makeAvis.exe with MA script I see the next error:

Code:

GripCop. Could not save target frame size as variables.
MakeAvis Avisynth script, line 19


And this is my script:

Code:

## DLL Section ##
#
LoadPlugin("d:\Filters25\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("d:\Filters25\GripFit_YV12.dll")
#LoadPlugin("d:\Filters25\STMedianFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("d:\Filters25\asharp.dll")
LoadPlugin("d:\Filters25\unfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("d:\Filters25\undot.dll")
#
####

## Main section and static filters ###
#
Mpeg2Source("D:\FINDING_NEMO\VIDEO_TS\Nemo.d2v")
#
undot()
#Limiter()
asharp(1, 4)
GripCrop(352, 288, overscan=1, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
#STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))
#
#

## Linear Motion Adaptive Filtering ##
#
# ( Portions from AviSynth's manual )
# This will apply variable temporalsoften
# and variable blur.
# Both filters are active at all times, and work inversely proportional to the
# activity, measured from current frame to next frame.

ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1)  ")

#
#
#

GripBorders()
#LetterBox( Your_Values_Here ) # Depends on situation. Use MovieStacker!

#
#
## Functions ###

function fmin( int f1, int f2) {
  return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2
}
 
#
####

-Maurus

incredible 04-27-2004 06:46 AM

Also I did see that GripFit in AVS's cant be handled by Makeavis (ffvfw.dll).

a) Try the ffdshow version of Makeavis (latest)

b) Use FitCD for resizing (Moviestacker download is stopped due that GPL discussion)

Prodater64 04-27-2004 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
b) Use FitCD for resizing (Moviestacker download is stopped due that GPL discussion)

As I know, actually Moviestacker can to be downloaded, requesting it for PM to Kwag.

kwag 04-27-2004 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodater64
Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
b) Use FitCD for resizing (Moviestacker download is stopped due that GPL discussion)

As I know, actually Moviestacker can to be downloaded, requesting it for PM to Kwag.

No, MovieStacker is not available at this moment, until muaddib's final decision.
However, if you already have it, there's no reason why you can't use it.

-kwag

black prince 04-27-2004 09:42 PM

@all,

Quote:

Mencode-me: a newbie oriented GUI - 0.22 is out!
These posts have gone way past the newbie and back to batch
experts. Maybe removing newbie would be clearer :mrgreen:

-BP

vmesquita 04-27-2004 10:14 PM

But this is still the MencodeMe thread, and the GUI is useful for newbies at current stage. This is true for many members of the Portuguese Forum. :wink:

KYUSS 04-28-2004 02:46 AM

sorry for being dumb but does this proggy encode audio as well?

maurus 04-28-2004 03:09 AM

I can make a .mpv file with MEncoder-Me 0.22, but with Mencoder.exe include with MencoderMe 0.2, not with Mencoder.exe included in the last version.

I can't preview with none of the two versions.

I will try now with source makeAvis. I will obtain greater quality than with the internal filters of MEncoder?

Thanks.


-Maurus

ench0 04-28-2004 06:51 AM

I am into this KVCD madness :wink: for a few months now. I've started with tmpgenc (using about 5-6 programs for the process) and switched to DIKO 2 months ago (I was 2 tired after months of manual processing). Now I am trying this famous Mencoder.
I must say the result is the best yet! Never had a crush or any problem whatsoever. I just don't get why people are using avisynth scripts? As I understood scripting is already implemented using ffvfw builtin scripts?

P.S. I am just encoding 704x576 at 25-30 fps (whooosh)

kwag 04-28-2004 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ench0
I am into this KVCD madness :wink:

We all are :lol:
Quote:

I just don't get why people are using avisynth scripts? As I understood scripting is already implemented using ffvfw builtin scripts?
There are still some advantages, when using AviSynth. For example, the Motion Adaptive part of our script, uses some unique functions that are only available in AviSynth. I'm sure a similar functionality will be implemented in ffmpeg/mencoder's code in the near future.
And if you're encoding at 25-30 fps on Windows, you should try it on FreeBSD, where I'm getting reports of ~+6FPS over Windows, on average ;)

-kwag

incredible 04-28-2004 09:21 AM

a) If going in mencoder using an AVI I thought the internal decompressing engine will be used instead of ffvfw.

b) If going in mencoder using VOB _ also the internal decompressing engine does its job

c) So if we use ffvfw.dll then cause of makeavis import into mencoder and if this happens we already can do our filtering in avisynth.

So if I understood him right, the approach should better in to make mencoders internal filters working .... so some peoples (noobs) do not need avisynth. (and thats saying me 8O ) :lol:

maurus 04-28-2004 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
There are still some advantages, when using AviSynth. For example, the Motion Adaptive part of our script, uses some unique functions that are only available in AviSynth. I'm sure a similar functionality will be implemented in ffmpeg/mencoder's code in the near future.

What are the real advantages when using Motion Adaptive part in the script?


Thanks.


-Maurus

digitall.doc 04-28-2004 10:33 AM

Maurus,
the MA part filters linearly, related to the stimated motion of the scene. At low motion, it applies mainly temporal filtering and light unfilter (spatial); at high motion it unfilters more (sometimes too much, but it can be adjust if it doen't fit oyur taste), because in high action you won't notice the blurring... and this is useful to obtain better compression. But anyone else can explain this better... :oops:
I hope we will be able to use it inside mencoder soon. :wink:

digitall.doc 04-28-2004 10:45 AM

Hi all:
I have not posted for some time, but I've been following your advances (good job vmesquita :wink: ). Now I see lots of us around here :) , it's good to see you all. I'm veeery busy now, and things are now in a phase I just can help making tests (well, I just can help testing in any phase :roll: ). Now it's time for programmers and developers... and testers.
I dropped my tests with StarWars II without success to my taste. But I've learnt a lot with those tests.
Now I'm trying to encode an old capture (from my military service period, a looong time ago) that I encoded to mpeg2 with no filter and looks really bad, too high contrast, noisy,... and I'm feeding "this" to mencoder, trying to make a KSVCD...
My problem is in the filtering, as I'm using default DVD template from vmesquita, adapted in this way:
Code:

-vf yuvcsp,crop=688:560:18:2,scale=336:272:0:0:60,il=d,unsharp=l3x3:0.6,hqdn3d=3:6:8,
unsharp=l3x3:-0.7:c3x3:-1.5,noise=2uh,il=i,expand=352:288:-1:-1,hue=0.0:0.5

As you see I keep interlaced. And don't take too seriously the hue settings, I'm still tweaking them.
And this is my question: what filters/settings would you advise (mencoder ones)?, and how can adjust hue, saturation, maybe levels,...?. Do I use VirtualDub?, are VirtualDub settings to be loaded directly in mencoder?
Do we open a mencoder filtering thread?.

Prodater64 04-28-2004 11:32 PM

Hi:
@VMesquita:

Suggestions:
1 - It would be interesting that when opening source file dialog, it shows all supported files at once. Extensions selection drop-down box is not usefull, I think.
2 - It would be interesting also, a Save as default settings button.
3 - Could you put a Filtering Combo for mpeg1 and mpeg2 sources (like C(X)(S)VCD to K(S)VCD)

Bugs:
MencodeMe set GOP size (keyint) from settings in Target drop-down selection box. Keyint values always are or 15 (KDVD) or 24 (K(S)VCD), no matter what is selected in Framerate drop-down selection box. Let's remember that 15 is for PAL KDVD, 24 is for NTSC K(S)VCD. MencodeMe es missing values of 18 for NTSC KDVD and 25 for PAL K(S)VCD.
It would be better an exclusive drop-down selection box for this setting.

Zyphon 04-29-2004 02:27 AM

I suppose you could add a Advanced button so that the guys that arent newbies could tweak other various setting to make their conversions even better. :)

just a thought

For newbies like me this GUI is perfect and easy to use so thanks vmesquita. :D

vmesquita 04-29-2004 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodater64
1 - It would be interesting that when opening source file dialog, it shows all supported files at once. Extensions selection drop-down box is not usefull, I think.

Yes, I just dont know how to do it. Really :D But the extension box works, at least for me.
Quote:

2 - It would be interesting also, a Save as default settings button.
I agree. But it's a simple thing that gives a lot of work. I have to read and write configuration for each option...

Quote:

3 - Could you put a Filtering Combo for mpeg1 and mpeg2 sources (like C(X)(S)VCD to K(S)VCD)
B ut the problem is that someone have to come up with the settings... I don't have time to do tests right now... :(

Quote:

Bugs:
MencodeMe set GOP size (keyint) from settings in Target drop-down selection box. Keyint values always are or 15 (KDVD) or 24 (K(S)VCD), no matter what is selected in Framerate drop-down selection box. Let's remember that 15 is for PAL KDVD, 24 is for NTSC K(S)VCD. MencodeMe es missing values of 18 for NTSC KDVD and 25 for PAL K(S)VCD.
It would be better an exclusive drop-down selection box for this setting.
Thanks! I was thinking about a way to select the GOP is a better way, and choose according to framerate is a good idea. :D So each template can define a 23.976 GOP, a 25 fps GOP and a 29.97 gop. :wink:

@Zyphon
The GUI is not supposed to show advanced parameters, because advanced user can always (and without problems) use command-line. :wink:

rendalunit 04-29-2004 04:06 PM

Wow, beautiful work VMesquita! I can't believe I haven't tried this out until now :oops: I also can't believe how fast mencoder is. My encoded file appeared to have some overscan- (maybe 1 block ?) Does it by default do overscan in the KVCD destination? I'm sure that I didn't have overscan in my script- just had the line LanczosResize(352,240) so I think it should be no borders. Thanks

Also great guide R_Correia, that helped me a lot thanx!

kwag 04-29-2004 05:16 PM

Hi Ren,

Use MovieStacker to get your correct resize/overscan, and use those values to put them on Mencoder-ME ;)

-kwag

bigggt 04-29-2004 07:45 PM

Hi just wondering if anyone figured out why a few of us are having trouble with 2 pass stopping after the first pass.

I could have missed it after trying to read all the legal stuff in the other threads here and at doom9

Prodater64 04-29-2004 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt
Hi just wondering if anyone figured out why a few of us are having trouble with 2 pass stopping after the first pass.

I could have missed it after trying to read all the legal stuff in the other threads here and at doom9

Does it happens without any error message?
Have you originals VM versions from begin?
Are you extracted files from winzip window (fine) or drag an dropped to destination folder(wrong)?

vmesquita 04-29-2004 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt
Hi just wondering if anyone figured out why a few of us are having trouble with 2 pass stopping after the first pass.

I could have missed it after trying to read all the legal stuff in the other threads here and at doom9

2pass is currently broken in MencodeMe, I have to check why. :wink:

rendalunit 04-29-2004 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Hi Ren,

Use MovieStacker to get your correct resize/overscan, and use those values to put them on Mencoder-ME ;)

-kwag

hey kwag, there was no problem. WMP just wasn't showing it correctly- it was fine in the other players.

Sorry :oops:

bigggt 04-29-2004 09:09 PM

Thanx vmesquita

@ Prodater64

Quote:

Does it happens without any error message?
NO error message, it just stops like it has finished


Quote:

Have you originals VM versions from begin?
I am very knew to this so i don't know even what VM is :oops: but i have downloaded everything in this thread i think


Quote:

Are you extracted files from winzip window (fine) or drag an dropped to destination folder(wrong)?
I know a few other people are having trouble so i don't think it was me but as vmesquita pointed out to me 2 pass is broken

One thing i don't get is that if 2 pass is broken ,how come not everyone is having this problem :D

Prodater64 04-29-2004 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt
One thing i don't get is that if 2 pass is broken ,how come not everyone is having this problem :D

Other people yes is having this problem. I see requested help about same problem in portugues forum.
My previous questions for you was only "to be sure".
But my 2 pass encoding don't give me any problem.
Maybe related to hardware? Well, I don't know it. Will see what say the boss.

vmesquita 04-30-2004 12:02 AM

Hi everyone!

MencodeME 0.23 is out. Read the changelog in the first message of the thread. :D

http://www.jltoca.uaivip.com.br/files/MencodeME023.zip

kwag 04-30-2004 12:27 AM

Downloading :!:

Edit: Beautiful :!: :mrgreen:
Thanks for the VBV changes on MPEG-1 :cool:

Thanks :)
-kwag

rds_correia 04-30-2004 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt
... i don't know even what VM is :oops:

Hehe :lol: just a short way of calling VMesquita :wink:
Big nicknames are all being shortened by us like me for instance rds.
Don't worry. In no time we'll be using Mencode-ME v1.0 with everything we need like in Tmpgenc/CCE.
Also we have to see that Mencoder is still under heavy development.
That means sometimes in order to add new features they brake other already implemented features.
We have to be patient with the Mplayer team :)
In the end they'll deliver an excellent product :D
Cheers guys

audioslave 04-30-2004 08:29 AM

Thank you very much for this 2 pass fix, vmesquita! :)
I have one question:
How can I correct the buffer underrun that occurs every time I'm starting an encode? It happens at "Pos: 0.1, 3f".

EDIT: Where can I download "subfont.ttf"?

vmesquita 04-30-2004 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audioslave
How can I correct the buffer underrun that occurs every time I'm starting an encode? It happens at "Pos: 0.1, 3f".

I think this error is normal, it can't be fixed because mencoder is complaining that the buffer is not full enougth but it can't be because the movie just started to be encoded.
Quote:

EDIT: Where can I download "subfont.ttf"?
Fonts are here:
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
But please note: you don't need fonts to use image based subtitles (i.e., DVD subtitles) and also there's a bug in mencoder subtitle routine that makes "the old subtitle only go away when the a new sub come in the same position if subs are applied in black borders."

EDIT
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Downloading

Edit: Beautiful
Thanks for the VBV changes on MPEG-1

Actually I changed the VBV settings for all resolutions in both MPEG1/MPEG2 according to your recommendations... I hope it's fine.

kaper 04-30-2004 11:03 AM

Hi, this is my first post. I've been doing kvcd for a couple of months, getting some decent results. Its taken quite a lot of trying and testing to figure out all the settings I need etc. However it doesn't seem so much about watching movies as it is about the process of making the kvcd and getting the highest quality possible. Having said all that I don't consider the time I've spent to be a waste as it has been a ton of fun and I've learned a lot. I came across the mencoder gui by VM a few days ago, been trying it out seems to have a lot of potential, nice and fast. One porblem I have been wondering about is the small file size I get when doing 352x240. I'm not sure how a 2 pass will end up, I'm in the middle of a second pass right now and this is the first time I've gotten to the second pass as it was just fixed with the recent release. Is there some way to remedy this issue if it continues for me? I notice if I do 702x480 it ends up closer to expected so I don't really know what to do. I noticed blackprince mentioned the same issue and that some error was mentioned, however I see no errors of that type when I encode. The other issue I was wondering about is in the second pass the fps drop to about 6 or 7 while in the first pass I get around 30, just wondering if anyone else has this happen. Well, thats all, thank you for the gui VM and all the info everyone, I'm still learning about filters etc but you've all made it a lot easier to get started without knowing too much. Kaper. :D

bigggt 04-30-2004 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds
Hehe just a short way of calling VMesquita

You know thats what i guessed because i know i have seen it before but just didn't want to look like a fool ,oh well too late for that
:drink:

Thanks for the new Version VM(see sometimes i can learn quick :wink: )

Prodater64 04-30-2004 02:13 PM

Even vbv fix, still got same previous error.

black prince 04-30-2004 03:27 PM

@vm,

VBV = 327 for VCD is still causing errors. I increased it to 917 and
errors stopped. :wink: Avs MA script gives me the dtc error and without
this script errors go away :?: I used this script:

Quote:

LoadPlugin("c:\DVD BACKUP\4 - MOVIESTACKER\Filters25\MPEG2Dec3.dll")

Mpeg2Source("F:\Temp\movie.d2v")

LanczosResize(352, 240, 8, 0, 704, 480)
AddBorders(0, 1, 0, -1)
I haven't tried ren's suggestion to play the .mpv with a player
other than WMP, but will soon. I get what seems to be a
crop of 1 for top and bottom of a fullscreen movie. File
size is lower again with calculated bitrate (588mb vs 775mb).
Of coures the speed is great. 28fps encoding took 83 minutes
which with Tmpgenc took 6 hrs. 8)

-BP

rendalunit 04-30-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black prince
Of coures the speed is great. 28fps encoding took 83 minutes
which with Tmpgenc took 6 hrs. 8)

-BP

Yeah, I'm totally blown away by the speed and the quality. I've done two movies with kdvd half d-1 and they look fantastic in PowerDVD. I noticed the video file won't play until it's muxed with audio. This encoder and GUI has renewed my interest in the hobby.

kwag 04-30-2004 05:58 PM

I'm with you ren :D
Today, I encoded "Payback" (again!), and look at the result at 704x480, at only 1-pass 8O
Total movie size is 808,019KB (with audio)
Sample: http://www.kvcd.net/payback.mpg.cut.59.mpg
Great work vmesquita :cool:

-kwag


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