New Editorial: HostGator Alternatives, Parts 1-3 (the EIG buyout)
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Do you have any information about LocalCloudHost.com? It has been recommended to me and since I want to take your advice and move away from Hostgator, which is sad because I used to love them; I noticed they weren't as helpful as in the past when I needed help recently. I do use Namecheap for my Domain names.
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Their site seems a bit tacky to me - not well designed, basic, out of the box WHMCS.... |
I'm not sure who recommended localcloudhost.com, but it wasn't a very good suggestion. That "host" has nothing more than an order pages online -- they don't even have a true site.
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Never use a host with a hidden whois. It's likely a kid/amateur (kiddie host) or a foreigner pretending to be in the U.S. Regardless, they're trying to hide, meaning your money goes to an unknown location, and your site is not safe if the host doesn't answer emails or tickets. The domain was created in May 2013 -- just a few months ago. I bet the person that owns it left himself fake feedback, she suggestion you saw/read was just worthless spam. Like the article said, the best true alternatives to all of this is Arvixe, Site5 and Namecheap are true alternatives to Hostgator, Bluehost and the others EIG brands. If none of those appeal to you, tell us your needs, and we can go over it with you to find the best host for your exact needs. Our suggestions are for top quality hosts only, and all of them are at least 4-5+ years old, and very established in the industry. Thanks. :) |
Thank you!
Thank you for your help. I will take your advice and move over to Namecheap.
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What about stablehost.com?
I know that you have recommended stablehost.com in the past. I was wondering if you can give a short update in light of your last editorial? We are looking at their enterprise shared hosting at the moment, leaving hostgator.
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Excellent information. Thank you.
I'm brand new to this forum. What I find paradoxical is that much of your site adverts are from ipage, hostgator... I guess I can't blame you for generating $$ but maybe a reference to that might avoid raised eyebrows? Or am I the only one who noticed! Info here is great!!
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The Hostgator editorial had a specific goal, namely finding good non-EIG hosts with similar offering to HG. Site5, Arvixe and Namecheap fit that description perfectly. Those are top unlimited-host suggestions. Stablehost, of course, does not offer unlimited plans, hence its omission. Leaving HG and using a Stablehost.com Enterprise server will be, to use the cliche, "night and day". :congrats: Quote:
Only people that have visited HG, or have a blank AdSense cookie, will see them. You fall in that category. I saw it right after I visited HG to see the price on something, while writing the editorials. Now I can't make them go away. They follow me all over the internet, anywhere where AdSense is. Ah, then internet... sometimes its so silly. :smack: |
What do you think of LiquidWeb? It was recommended and sounds good from what I've read. I am willing to pay more than I would for HostGator, but not prepared to spend $25+ a month.
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I have 3 websites, all very small traffic. My biggest website is at about 10k visits a month. All are on WP.org. I'm not very techie, but I can manage to do a few simple things in the CPanel. What I really want is good uptime, good customer service when I do have an issue and a company that will help me switch over the sites with as short a downtime as possible since it also means my primary email goes down during the switch.
I really just want affordable hosting that will be good...and shared hosting is probably fine for sites of my size as long as it is with a good company. |
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Depending on what you need, there's many great hosts in the $10 to $20 range... Quote:
To be blunt, Hostgator sucks. It's an EIG brand with lots of issues, and is owned by a fairly shady company. Furthermore, Hostgator was also stupidly overpriced for what little you got. All you need is a better host. Brent here is with Veerotech, and that's definitely a good host. So are Stablehost, Arvixe, Site5, WebhostingBuzz, and quite a few others. All I see you needing is a standard shared host. Nothing more. 10k monthly traffic is not at all large, and you should be fine on a typical shared hosting plan in the $10 range.
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Thanks! I'll spend some time looking at your suggestions tomorrow and will make a switch.
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Best read, ever.
I found this article in a link on someone's sig (on another well known site that deals with hosting). I've been trying to figure out what some very well known providers have become, shall say, "difficult" and this makes it very clear. :congrats: |
Well, well, well. Who would have guessed that? A great article! I myself have been perfectly happy with Monstermegs. Their price is right, customer support is blazing fast (in most cases you get an answer in less than 20 min by email..) and uptime is great. They also lately upgraded all their gear for no additional costs to old customers which is great. If you're looking for a reliable hosting company, check them out!
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For a long time, I was happy with HostGator, and had excellent support from them. Only in the last month have I noticed a deterioration. My account expires soon, so I'm looking for a good host to migrate about 50 sites.
Are you sure about DreamHost? They seem to be ok, support-wise, but the proprietary panel they use would take getting used to. |
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If you want to continue using unlimited-style hosts, you'd have a much better experience with Arvixe and Site5, or WebhostingBuzz. If "unlimited" doesn't really matter, then there's quite a few other good hosts to pick from, such as Stablehost, Stream101 or Veerotech. For 50 accounts, you should use reseller hosting. Are you currently using reseller hosting at Hostgator? For resellers, Site5 and Veerotech are two of my favorites. Both have excellent support. If you have any more specific requirements, I can help there too. Just let me know what you're after. :) |
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Stream101 has a limit of 40 domains for shared hosting. For the reseller hosting, they charge about twice the going rate for static IP. Veerotech.com looks ok for shared hosting. Something to compare to certifiedhosting. It's not immediately obvious from Stablehost's site if I can get a static IP with shared hosting. Monstermegs.com also looks like it has what I need, and is roughly the same price with their current 40% discount. (I suspect there will always be sales and rumors of sales, and the price of bandwidth and storage is going down pretty steadily anyway) I had a friend who reported that WebhostingBuzz would not allow a PHP script to send emails, which is basically a show-stopper for me. I can understand that they would like to eliminate spam, but that is a bit like using a tennis racket to kill mosquitoes; both ineffective and harmful. Site5 looks pretty good. The $12/month plan looks a lot like reseller hosting (separate cPanel per domain). I might go on that one month-to-month ($14) for a while to see if it really works for me. |
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Reseller hosting is not about traffic, but rather separation of domains for security. If any 1 of your 50 sites get hacked, then the entire account usually gets hacked. You'd potentially lose 50 sites at once. Not good!
The "addon" domain system used by cPanel is very dangerous for anything but HTML-only sites. Are your site HTML only? If you're using anything like WordPress or Joomla, it's a huge risk. cPanel accounts are the same Linux account, and thus all "addon" domains have the same permissions. Separate cPanel accounts have separate permissions. And you can only create separate accounts by using a "reseller" cPanel plan. Understand that terms "reseller" and "addon" are made up by cPanel. The "reseller" is nothing more than a multi-domain account. You don't have to resell anything. Most hosts offer (and charge for) an IP, and require justification like SSL certs. We're in the age of IPv4 depletion. The new average rate is $3 monthly. Few are cheaper, and some are more expensive. It all depends on what datacenter they're using, and the bulk discounts they have in place (if any can be had from the DC, that is). The price of storage has gone up since 2011 -- not down. It's been fairly stagnant for the past 2 years now. Ever since that Thailand flood some years ago, prices have been on average 10-20% higher than they were pre-flood. It used to be 50% or more higher! So "fallen" is relative. Bandwidth is coming down in price, yes, but slowly. It will plateau here soon unless ISPs start to invest more funds into bandwidth carriage -- both business and residential. That includes backbone-only carriers, what few are left (ISPs have been buying backbones for the past few years). I know some nice new pipes are coming in Asia, and will lower their prices, but that does nothing for North America. Your friend probably had something else wrong with his script. WebhostingBuzz has no issues with that. The only "problem" is that it needs to use SMTP. Almost all mail scripts implement this, and have for years. And then hosts are now disallowing php mail (sendmail, etc), and requiring the script to locally SMTP authorize itself. Any host not doing it now either (A) will soon, or (B) find their servers on DNSBL/RBL mail blacklists. Then you'll really have problems! Veerotech is more than a shared host. It's an excellent reseller host. Lots of higher-end hardware and commercial software runs their platform. It's much better than average. The Site5 "MultiAdmin" (or "+Turbo") setup does work quite well. Have you ever seen it? See the images below. The resources (resources points) on +Turbo accounts is lower than reseller, but if the account is not using that much as you suggest, then it will be fine. It's really nothing more than a custom reseller system -- except for one user (as per ToS), not reselling to other users. Hope that helps. :) ____________ This account is not heavily used right now, but it's good to show what to expect. In the excellent "Backstage" custom control panel, you can access all your billing, support and servers. It's nice. In Backstage, you access the multi-admin and pick your primary account. Attachment 3703 Once in the MultiAdmin, you can choose your individual sites admins. It's not that different from reseller accounts, but your not using WHM (cPanel). This is where you access, add or delete more cPanel accounts. Attachment 3704 After selecting the admin you want, you're in cPanel. Yes, this is cPanel with a custom skin/theme. It's nicely integrated to Backstage. Attachment 3705 I've used them for a while now, so if you have questions, just ask. :congrats: |
Well, I knew I had a lot to learn on this journey, but I did not realize how potentially deadly my ignorance was...
OTOH, here is an exchange with a salesperson at CertifiedHosting: Quote:
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