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No Dust :?: :!: 8O You're treading on blasphemy my friend! :lol: But I'll take your word for it Kwag and give it a shot. :wink: Boy, just when you think you know something, some wiseguy comes along and rewrites the whole darn book... :P Thanks, -d&c |
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"Boy, just when you think you know something, some wiseguy comes along and rewrites the whole darn book... " i think that 50,50 for unilter is "too much". 8O try a sample with 20,20 or 30,30.... i posted in "somewhere over the rainbow" :roll: (in avisynth thread,some sample scripts i think...) a few months ago that unfilter and temporalsmoother was the best filters for me used in my samples! my first kvcd 352x240 mpeg1 lbr was using this filters, and the colors are better than the news encodes. but we are trying to do the best,than i change the filters but, when my son is watching monsters sa encoded with this filters, i see fantastic brilliant colors....! :wink: |
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BTW, I know you're an Avisynth 2.0x kinda guy Kwag, but I'd REALLLLLLY appreciate it if someone could maybe reply to your read-only sticky topic with the equivalent 2.5x scripts. Now that you'd dropped SpaceDust I'd think you'd see some real speed increases by switching avisynth versions. But I just got too damned confused with all the ConvertToYUV2 crap and other stuff. |
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temporalsmoother(1,2) mergechroma(blur(1.58 )) mergeluma(blur(0.2)) Take care of that, and it's part of the trick :) Look at the sample :wink: -kwag |
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Kwag posted:
"temporalsmoother(1,2) mergechroma(blur(1.58 )) mergeluma(blur(0.2)) Take care of that, and it's part of the trick :) Look at the sample :wink: " ok,Kwag! :D and i'm reading the comments on 2.5 too....is working better now. :D waiting your results! :!: |
wow, 8O 8O 8O
the sample looks awesome i´ve some testings to do 8) |
I encoded a sample of the Movie "Spygame" using this script and CQ 63
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Mpeg2Source("E:\spygame\spygameproj.d2v") The I used Kwag's script with the same CQ Code:
Mpeg2Source("E:\spygame\spygameproj.d2v") The difference between the first and the second script is 2,4 MB. With Kwag's script, the picture is a bit sharper with the same CQ.But with the same CQ you won't be able to get the Movie on 1 CD.So you have to decrease the CQ and that will also decrease the Quality.That's why I will still use the first script. |
i just made a sample with kwag´s newest script from a movie, which lasts 95 minutes. the result was the sharpest video i´ve ever seen with kvcd and the sample-size is only 10.9MB.
that´s unbelievable 8O 8O 8O 8O great script http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif PS: i made this sample with ToK filesize prediction for 1 CD |
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The temporal filters do decrease the file size, but they also spoil the image when used that heavily :!: I have compared the results on my HDTV, and I won't go back to those temporal filters, unless I have a dirty (badly authored) source or VHS, capture, etc. -kwag |
Kwag, it's just unbelieveable.With your new script, I get better results with CQ 52 than with CQ 63 and the old script. :ole:
But I have one Question: Can I retain the sharpness, If add DctFilter(1,1,1,1,1,.5,.5,0) and increase mergeluma(blur(0.2)) to mergeluma(blur(0.7))???Or will it be too blurry??? |
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Also, I think that beyond 0.5 on luma, it starts to blurr the picture too much. Part of the trick was to use a sharpener with heavy value to enhance details (beyond recognition :lol:), then apply the blurr to kill the artificial artifacts. This works good, and I think that with the current value of unfilter and chroma/luma merge, the picture looks very natural and is not over enhanced. So right now: Code:
unfilter(50,50) -kwag |
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Just finished an encoding of a TV captured avi, only Unfilter(20,20) plus Bilinear resize gave me an amazing result in less than an hour. Previously i did the same avi with the script u posted on "Optimal scripts" , the one for VHS_Captures, the encoding time was 4.5hours and the result was blocky picture full of artifacts... Seems Unfilter does a good job even with non-aggresive values... |
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What about this:
Increase mergeluma(blur(0.2)) to mergeluma(blur(0.7)) and Unfilter(70,70) to compensate it. |
OK,Kwag.
Now I tried this one Code:
Mpeg2Source("E:\spygame\spygameproj.d2v") |
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I did an encode last night of a ~90 minute movie with the x3 template (544x480). I also included some extras that came out to ~105MB muxed, so after all the extras + the movie's audio, my target for video was 607MB. I used the script below, and after prediction, ended up with a CQ of only 51.3! 8O : Code:
Telecide() Surprisingly, the resulting movie was very watchable, although I'm not certain whether I'd consider it one of my better encodes. Right now, I'm thinking that to get a 2-hour encode onto 1 disc with the new optimal script (@ 29.97fps and 544x480 as my player requires), it's definetly going to take some further optimization of the Unfilter and MergeLuma levels, and probably even some additional smoothing as well. :cry: :? With the old methods (using Space, and TC or C3D), fitting ~2-hours onto 1 disc wasn't normally a problem, and I was pretty happy with the results at the time. I'm thinking I may have to use the old script with heavier filtering for 2-hour movies and the new "optimal script" for ~90 minute films. I hope I'm wrong...as always, only testing will tell I guess. :roll: Man, do I hate testing! :evil: :lol: If anyone figures out the new general lowest-acceptable CQ, or an optimally tweaked version of the current script for use on a Standard, non-HDTV television, please post your results. Thanks, -d&c |
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