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11-22-2003, 03:09 PM
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If you want to clip you can use Avisynth.

Letterbox(*, *, *, *) ( But I think you know this)

I think it's faster than TMPGEnc Clipframe.
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@Everyone,

Latest Update.... I tried to preview this same avs script in virtualdub
v 1.4.12 and no line appeared on the right side of the screen. Then
I viewed the same avs script using WMP v 9.00.00.3075 and again
no line appeared. I used the KVCD 352x240 Plus for Tmpgenc
v 2.521.58.169 with min bitrate 416 and max bitrate 2000 and
CQ = 83.4. That's the only settings I used. I'm going to use
another version release of Tmpgenc to see if this corrects the problem.
At least I narrowed the problem to Tmpgenc. BTW, commented ASharp
in the avs script and the problem still remained. Thanks for your
suggestions and comments

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11-22-2003, 05:25 PM
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@All,

Problem Solved....It was GripBorder()!!!! I used MovieStacker without
GripFit and the following avs script solved the problem.

LoadPlugin("G:\DVD BACKUP\1 - DVD2KVCD\3 - MOVIESTACKER\Filters25\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\DVD BACKUP\1 - DVD2KVCD\3 - MOVIESTACKER\Filters25\GripFit_YV12.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\DVD BACKUP\1 - DVD2KVCD\3 - MOVIESTACKER\Filters25\asharp.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\DVD BACKUP\1 - DVD2KVCD\3 - MOVIESTACKER\Filters25\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\DVD BACKUP\1 - DVD2KVCD\3 - MOVIESTACKER\Filters25\UnFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\DVD BACKUP\1 - DVD2KVCD\3 - MOVIESTACKER\Filters25\STMedianFilter.dll")

Mpeg2Source("F:\Temp\movie.d2v")

## Main section and static filters ###
#
undot()
Limiter()
asharp(1, 4)
BilinearResize(336, 222, 0, 2, 720, 476)
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))
#
#

## Linear Motion Adaptive Filtering ##
#
# ( Portions from AviSynth's manual )
# This will apply variable temporalsoften
# and variable blur.
# Both filters are active at all times, and work inversely proportional to the
# activity, measured from current frame to next frame.

ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")

#
#
#
AddBorders(8, 9, 8, 9)
#LetterBox( Your_Values_Here ) # Depends on situation. Use MovieStacker!
Limiter()
ConvertToRGB24()
#
#
## Functions ###

function fmin( int f1, int f2) {
return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2
}

#
####


Thanks for everyone's help

-BP
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11-22-2003, 05:37 PM
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Thats why I personaly very often use the conventional way .....
.. ok, GripFit is a very good routine from SansGrip but as it seems it's using a detection and in some "special" cases it behaves incorrect.
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11-23-2003, 02:10 AM
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@ Jell and Encoder Master

about CQ or CQ_VBR for 320*2xx,
read the Kwag recomendations (post # 9)
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2003:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2228

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@ bp, incredible and Encoder Master

another "strange phenomenon" using gripfit :
read the (my)post Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:37
...incredible,you forgot this?

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....ight=linearity


i posted a long time ago that using griptfit i saw
the "pulsating line to the right(or left) of the screen"
and sometimes on the top too...but can't find "where" is it
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11-23-2003, 02:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Encoder Master
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I copied the image into Photoshop reiszed it to full screen width and to me it seems ok?
Like ever. Inc. was right.
Encoder Master,
can you send to
jltoca@uai.com.br
a few minutes of the movie that you encode
and take the pictures to remove my doubts, please?

...the link to the pictures is not working (...emm.html),
can you post the pictures again?

thanks!
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11-23-2003, 03:28 AM
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Yes jorel I can send you a few seconds. You only have to say if fast scenes or low scenes. This Link have to work:

http://samsonite.webspace4free.biz/DerPatriot.html

When not copy the pic link in the adress line and enter.
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11-23-2003, 06:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jorel
another "strange phenomenon" using gripfit :
read the (my)post Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:37
...incredible,you forgot this?

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....ight=linearity
Yeah man!!!

I also wanted to mention that case but Im not that fast in finding older Threads like you!!! .... BTW: I still got Audioslaves Pics hosted on my webspace

By remembering that case there I figured out very fast that Gripfit was responsable in my past case which I told Black Prince above, so shure I felt personally adressed in here
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Yes jorel I can send you a few seconds. You only have to say if fast scenes or low scenes. This Link have to work:

http://samsonite.webspace4free.biz/DerPatriot.html

When not copy the pic link in the adress line and enter.

the new link is working very fine!

you can send me fast or low scenes.....you choose
thanks!
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11-23-2003, 08:18 AM
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@ EM
How much time takes this movie?????
Did you put it fitting to one CDr-90?
(maybe I was wrong by saying "too much plained details"!)
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incredible,
Encoder Master posted
the answer here ( 168min on 800 MB):

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....er=asc&start=0
post #6

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I should have look closer .............
So nice Job! EM
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I'll send it to you jorel. Look later in your Mailbox.
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11-23-2003, 05:01 PM
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thanks EM,
i got the sample and what i see is:

perfect aspect radio in powerdvd and zoom player!
the matizes are very cool.
what filters are used in the script


removing doubts(i always have):

if the sample have 0:59 seconds with 5,49mb(5.631kb)without audio,
how you put this all (168 minutes) with audio in only one cd?

thanks!
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11-24-2003, 10:01 AM
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Hi jorel...

I made lots of tests these days...
Results are: CQ_VBR seems to be better for VCD resolution. Picture is sharper and backgrounds more stable and mosquito noise is reduced. However in High Action scenes it tends to be EXTREMELY blocky when there's not sufficient Bitrate even with the MA script (it gets blurred AND blocky, horrible picture). That's where CQ shines. For this project (look here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7557 ) I'm going to use CQ as Action Scenes are very important here...
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11-24-2003, 10:30 AM
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Great info Jellygoose! Very helpful indeed...
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11-24-2003, 10:32 AM
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JellyGoose, do you encode in MPEG1 or 2 ?

I use CQ_VBR for all my encoding in VCD since a long time but not for very action movies (I do comedy tv show ) so I never noticed that was so problematic.
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11-24-2003, 10:47 AM
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Hi Dialhot!

I use MPEG-1, and the problem of blocks at high bitrates with CQ_VBR is the only disadvantage I see at that resolution compared to CQ. Other than that it just looks plain better... This is giving me a hard time whether I should use CQ or CQ_VBR... Maybe I'll also give MPEG-2 a try with CQ_VBR...
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11-24-2003, 10:59 AM
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Maybe I'll also give MPEG-2 a try with CQ_VBR...
No need : it is worst than MPEG1 even on low action video
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