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When I encode using the PAL KVCDx3 mpeg-1 & 2 the widescreen sizes are different:

MPEG-1
MPEG-2

surely if I used the same widescreen setting (16:9 625 line [PAL]) for both they would both be the same size?

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When I encode using the PAL KVCDx3 mpeg-1 & 2 the widescreen sizes are different:

MPEG-1
MPEG-2

surely if I used the same widescreen setting (16:9 625 line [PAL]) for both they would both be the same size?

AndyB
Hi Andy,
Check that the MPEG-2 PAL template you have is dated September 1, 2001 timestamp 10:25AM. Some changes were made to that template, so if your version is older, re-download. The .zip file was also updated. That was the last date of any changes made to the templates.

And BTW: Those JPegs of LOTR look GREAT!

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I've got 3rd sep on the time stamp but I will do a redownload of them as soon as I have posted this.

Thanx to get that quality look at my lotr sticky post in the tmpgenc forum.

Edit: Just downloaded and extracted the templates and the dates in the zip matched the ones I already had.
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Hey andybno1!

Look like it's a resize problem...
Check the resize parameters in the avs script, to see if they are the same for both samples.
The second image appears to have a wrong aspect ratio.
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I agree with you muaddib,

the mpeg2 looks like the aspect ratio is wrong- that's what my mpegs look like when I don't check 'anamorphic' in FitCd source- when I should.

it looks like it's vertically stretched.

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well I can tell you its not the avs script as I never used one, when I have I just get a invalid video format so I never bother.
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well I can tell you its not the avs script as I never used one, when I have I just get a invalid video format so I never bother.
So the problem must be the source aspect ratio and/or video arrange method... make sure they are the same. Stay with the one that you use with the first image. It seems that this one has the right AR.
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but the mpeg-1 when played is smaller than the screen grab, I'll do a sample later today as right now I need to get some sleep as its quite early in the morning (3:45am) I'm only up this late because I was downloading something.
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well I can tell you its not the avs script as I never used one, when I have I just get a invalid video format so I never bother.
So the problem must be the source aspect ratio and/or video arrange method... make sure they are the same. Stay with the one that you use with the first image. It seems that this one has the right AR.
Actually, I believe that you are wrong. If you were to view these images on a regular television, the first one would look ver "squashed" becuase with the resolution at what is it, the the MPEG will not be an exact fit on a TV. When viewed on a TV the balck borders would squish the image and make it smaller. If you were to view the second image on a regular TV, The already stretched image would be squashed back down to look normal. I hope I explained this clearly enough.

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So the problem must be the source aspect ratio and/or video arrange method... make sure they are the same. Stay with the one that you use with the first image. It seems that this one has the right AR.

Actually, I believe that you are wrong. If you were to view these images on a regular television, the first one would look ver "squashed" becuase with the resolution at what is it, the the MPEG will not be an exact fit on a TV. When viewed on a TV the balck borders would squish the image and make it smaller. If you were to view the second image on a regular TV, The already stretched image would be squashed back down to look normal. I hope I explained this clearly enough.

Good Luck,
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yeah its squished when I view it on my pc as well. I have the samples of the mpeg-1 and mpeg-2 kvcdx3 template but no where to upload to any suggestions they are 4.47mb and 5.72mb.

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Actually, I believe that you are wrong. If you were to view these images on a regular television, the first one would look ver "squashed" becuase with the resolution at what is it, the the MPEG will not be an exact fit on a TV. When viewed on a TV the balck borders would squish the image and make it smaller. If you were to view the second image on a regular TV, The already stretched image would be squashed back down to look normal. I hope I explained this clearly enough.

Good Luck,
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I had this problem you described once before. I'm not quite sure, but looks like you are trying to play PAL resolution in a NTSC TV, so the image will be squashed.
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09-06-2002, 04:49 AM
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I had this problem you described once before. I'm not quite sure, but looks like you are trying to play PAL resolution in a NTSC TV, so the image will be squashed.
nope everything in my room is PAL seeing as I live in the UK
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nope everything in my room is PAL seeing as I live in the UK
Well, I can't think in anything else...
Did you encode another 2 samples with the same source aspect ratio and video arrange method?
If yes, how they came out?
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I have two samples using the kvcdx3 templates, but nowhere to upload to show what they are like.

no the lord of the rings was the first movie I have tried with the kvcx3 templates.
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ok, here is a sample of what I get. Its only a second because for some reason my the server doesn't want to upload the whole file just one second. I noticed its the same widescreen as the ntsc one.

its left click to download the file, as its on a anti leech server.

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