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08-18-2003, 05:53 PM
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Fight for Our Rights!!!!!!

Now I'm realy pissed OFF!!!! Blame me if it not allowed to anathematize!

What I saw is realy stupied of MVCD. The on, Jim he's calling him self, has stolen parts of my guide and vmesquita's.

Here the links. It's german, like ever... DVD2MSVCD GUIDE

Forumpost: http://www.molevcd.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2283

So, what we do now? Jim did the template exactly who I discribed it in my Guide Creating Templates for CCE , but he didn't wrote anything about me in his Guide. (Now I understand You, vmesquita complete!!! I'll ever notice You in my Guides, if I take parts out of our Guides or posts in the forum!)

The funniest was: He posted a AVISYNTHScript and called it KVCD-Script in his Guide. What I noticed to was that the Guide has similar style like my guides have...

Think about it!
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now you will understand better my intentions
in the thread of the vmesquita guide my friend Avalon.

i'm with you to fight for yours and the forum rights(place and members)!

count with me!

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08-18-2003, 06:16 PM
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Avalon,

Oh, this is just great... Don't this MVCD guys ever give up stealing stuff and come up with something new? Why in hell do this people can't create something? If they use their time creating instead of stealing, it would be better for everyone!
And the most scary part is the end:

"11. - CopyRight:
CopyRight by Jim. Member of the MVCD-Forum."

I think we should register on MVCD forum and post a link and a date. But of course the cowards would delete the post so that would help a lot. I really have no idea about this, for now I'll just pm Kwag about it so maybe he'll have a good idea about what to do.

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08-18-2003, 07:11 PM
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It's really easy
You see, the history of MVCD and mole has already been written
They will fall by their own weight and practices. When people visit their site, and learn the truth, they eventually leave
But the "followers" to mole and MVCD, who clearly know the reality, are as thieves as him. Period.
So yes, I agree that German fellows should post there, and point them to the real guide that Avalon made. This way, they can see the kind of "rippers" that MVCD hosts.
They have "nothing" original on their site, and I believe they will fade with time, just because of their bad practices.
Oh yeah, and before some of their members come here and say "But now we have our own matrix "
Sure they do, and maybe some day (maybe?) it will be better that KVCDs matrix but their scars are deep, and once you've commited that kind of dirty practices as they've done since the beginning, there's no return

In spanish, we have a saying: "Dime con quien andas, y te dire quien eres"
Which would translate to something like this: "Tell me who you hang out with, and I'll tell you who you are"
I think I made my point

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08-18-2003, 07:48 PM
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Kwag,

You couldn't have been wiser. You are right. Let's concentrate our efforts on improving our methods. When people visit here, they'll realise the truth, and leave the thieves behind or join them.

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PS: We also have this saying in Portuguese.
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@ Kwag, vmesquita, Avalon and all friends:

as i posted a few months ago about mvcd i write
again today .....remains the absolute true again:

the best choice to mvcd is KVCD
who can't build, can "copy" and "paste"!



we Tarzan(KVCD), they "Monkeys"( "M" vcd)

....and i'm Jorge of the jungle!
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08-19-2003, 12:27 AM
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What a bunch of immoral losers these MVCD/Mole ripoff-artists are!!! Won't they ever learn?

MVCD=

Mentally
Vacuous
Copycat
Delinquents

Or, for our Spanish speaking friends:

Mentirosos
Vagabondos
Copiadoras
Diablos

I would urge everyone who knows the real truth behind these MVCD people (and I use that term loosely) to spread the word. When you see someone asking questions about MVCD somewhere, inform them about how MVCD constantly steals ideas from Kwag and the members of KVCD.net (and probably anyone else they can steal from too). If they won't learn to fairly give credit where credit is due, then at least we can do our best to stop them in their deceptive tracks by informing people about their checkered past. Expose mvcd for what it really is...nothing but a cheap, inferior knockoff of KVCD!

How long do you think it will be before we see an "MVCD-Matic" prediction program with a slightly altered GUI? Whooops! ....please forgive me Kwag!.....I'm affraid I may have just given the mole-people "another bright idea" (since they obviously come here for their ideas since they can't think for themselves too well ).

-d&c

P.S. To any of you MVCD thieves who are currently reading this post as you snoop around kvcd.net for more ideas to steal and call your own, please get a life...and maybe you could even try using your own brains and actually contributing something unique and valuable to the world of video conversion! Now wouldn't that be a nice change of pace for you guys?
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08-19-2003, 01:06 AM
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Some Posts out of the Thread of MVCD:

Quote:
der guide setzt auf 2.67 auf...
Guide will work with CCE 2.67... Like in my Guide...

Quote:
Goodyear2001 hat folgendes geschrieben::
Hat leider auch nichts gebracht, ich glaube ich gebe es auf. Habe das Script neu erstellt nun bekomme ich eine andere Meldung wenn ich das Script in den Media Player lade: unexpected "D". Aber D ist die Platte auf der CCE speichern soll. Kann es vielleicht sein das es an Movie Stacker liegt das das Skript nicht funzen will ? Bekoome beim öffnen von Movie Stacker folgende Meldung: Avisynth 2.5.2 detected. Qou can use it, but Movie Stacker only supports 2.0.x versions.

Goodyear2001



avisynth 2.5x kannste knicken, solltest 2.08 nutzen
Avisynth 2.5x is bad use 2.08... thy don't can use the MA-Script I posted in my Guide ...

Quote:
ScriptClip("nf = YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+ "nf >= SwitchThreshold ? \
unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ) : \
TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")

wenn ich die entfern funktioniert es.
weisst du an was das liegen kann?
when I delete this lines it will work. Can anybody tell my why?
This is stupied. Thy steal and don't now how it works ...

So have a nice day ... I must go to work now.
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08-19-2003, 03:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalon
when I delete this lines it will work. Can anybody tell my why?
This is stupied. Thy steal and don't now how it works ...
ROTFLOL !
If you can translate "because you're an *******" in German and post it into this thread, I think it can help a little
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalon
when I delete this lines it will work. Can anybody tell my why?
This is stupied. Thy steal and don't now how it works ...
ROTFLOL !
If you can translate "because you're an as*hole" in German and post it into this thread, I think it can help a little

yes....


@ Avalon,
put it there too...
why it don't work?
cos mvcd means:

Making
Vanish
Copyright
Device

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08-19-2003, 03:38 PM
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Edit: OK I edit now this post. I had post a link for swearwords in german here, but I got a PM from dazed&confused. So I go over it and delete the link. For everbody who want german swearwords go to www.google.de and enter 'Schimpfwörter'.

Have a nice day
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08-19-2003, 04:05 PM
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AS dialhot woud say ROTFLOL!!!!!!!

I am learning here what my father and/or grandfather never taught me: that is to speak German.
What I find most hilarious is that
Quote:
Piece of sh*t
is not completely completely spelled, but
Quote:
Wichser
is totally and correctly written.....

Thanks Avalon for the lesons

Otto
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08-19-2003, 04:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Somebody of MVCD
ich hab den guide aktualisiert. Das ist ein Plugin Packet. Da sind alle Plugins die man braucht drin.
There is now a Filter Pack. All filter are inside now.

That's exactly my way!!!!!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim of MVCD
ah ich habe grade rausgefunden wie man Templates im CCE benutzt
Also ich muss den Guide noch mal überarbeiten!
I've noticed how to create templates for CCE so I write the guide new...

He had found my Guide for CCE Templates on ---------------

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim of MVCD
Also nochmal:
Erstellt eine neue Text-Datei z.B. film.txt benennt diesen in film.avs um.
Dann öffnet iher film.avs im Windows Texteditor und kopiert das hier

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3483

Und zwar ab dem Abschnitt For DVD and clean material ( for use ONLY with AviSynth 2.5x )
in diese Textdatei.

Dann startet ihr MovieStacker. Auf "ignore" klicken. Also so machen wie im Guide. Wenn ihr dann im Reiter AviSynth Script seit. Kopiert ihr die Zeilen mit "mpeg2source...." und "GripCorp..." in eurer GRADE eben erstelltes Script. Also das wäre in diesem Fall:

DAS IST EIN AUSSCHNITT

## Main section and static filters ###
#
Mpeg2Source("Your_D2V_Source_Here")
#
undot()
Limiter()
asharp(1, 4)
GripCrop(Your_GripCrop_Parameters_Here)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0 )
MergeChroma(blur(MaxTreshold))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))
#
#
He's found out how to edit the GripCrop-settings...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinkinator
MaxTreshold = 1.50
scd_trigger = 30 # Scene change trigger value.
nf = 0 # Current frame.

Mpeg2Source("i:\NB\projekt.d2v")

undot()
Limiter()
asharp(2, 4)
GripCrop(480, 576, overscan=2)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0 )
MergeChroma(blur(MaxTreshold))
MergeLuma(blur(0.2))

ScriptClip("nf = YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+ "nf > 2.5 ? asharp( -(fmin((nf/30), 1)), 0 ) : \
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2) ")

ScriptClip("nf > scd_trigger ? asharp( -2,0) : asharp(0,0) ")

GripBorders()
Limiter()

function fmin(float f1, float f2) {
return (f1<f2) ? f1 : f2
}



mit dem script habe ich gute ergebnisse erzielt, allerdings habe ich tmpgenc benutzt
I think this script is also ours, or not?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim of MVCD
nein das ist schon korrekt so diese Balken rechts und links sind man auf dem Fernseher nicht mehr. Diese Balken dienen dazu das Aspect Ration bei zu behalten, sodass keine Eierköpfe entstehen.
no this is right. This balks right and left, u'll never see them on TV. They're for keeping the aspect ratio to get no Eggheads...

nice description for a gone-gaga-one ...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DVD2MVCD
Hat jemand jetzt ein funktionierendes Script für Avisynth?
Egal was ich bei mir einstelle immer erscheint eine Fehlermeldung
Has somebody a working AVISynthscript now? I've always error messages...

He is a noob... and this is good so...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TiKay
wenn ich die registry datei (das template für cce) ausführe kommt bei mir folgender fehler:
C:\DOWNLO~1\MVCD2~1.REG kann nicht importiert werden: Fehler beim Zugriff auf die Registrierung.

Kann man das Template vielleicht manuell in die registry einbinden?
if I install the registry-file I got this error-message: C:\DOWNLO~1\MVCD2~1.REG can't be registred. Error at setup registry.

Can I add the template to the REG manually?

Heavy problems installing "Their" templates...

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I think they should ask us ... no let them die in their own grave ... they don't get it into their minds, even if we try it to explain them how it works ... I won't do this ... Somebody?
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08-19-2003, 04:47 PM
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@totonho03 The word #S#H#I#T# is impossible in this board (THX kwag) but I can write Sch####e many times I want to do it...



I can teach everyone!!! I was once a Judo-Teacher in a dojo...

Edit: I think it is better so without swearwords in the threads...
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08-19-2003, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
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I think they should ask us ... no let them die in their own grave ... they don't get it into their minds, even if we try it to explain them how it works ... I won't do this ... Somebody?
Yes. Somebody should let them know
Too many people going to MVCD's site, and they don't really know how it (really) started and where it's roots (KVCD?) came from

-kwag
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08-19-2003, 05:08 PM
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OK I think I go to MVCD an do this now...

done:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalon @ MVCD (This is realy [b
ME[/b])]Erst einmal schöne Kopie von MEINER und vmesquita's Anleitung!!!

Wir sind richtig sauer: Thread darüber in unserem Forum

@Jim: Was denkst Du Dir eigentlich unsere Anleitungen zu kopieren? Zwar komm ich aus England, bin aber in Deutschland aufgewachsen. Natürlich sind meine Anleitungen teilweise auch in Deutsch zu haben, aber es sind meine und von KVCD.Net geduldet, weil ich ein hohes Tier in KVCD.net bin.

@ Alle: Die CCE Templates und das MA-Script wurden im KVCD.net und nicht hier entwickelt! Somit versteh ich auch Eure doofen Probleme mit dem Script, weil Ihr sie nicht geschrieben habt und mit diesen somit nicht klar kommt.
Tolle Belobigungen bekommst Du da, Jim. Deine Anleitung ist mies. Richtig mies.

OK, Ich hab nun Dampf abgelassen. Somit macht weiter mit der Shice. Es ist Euer Bier! Wer sich dagegen professionell mit CCE und MPEG2 beschäfftigen will ist herzlich auf www.kvcd.net und --- eingeladen. Beide Seiten haben Foren, in denen die Fragen richtig beantwortet werden, weil WIR DIE ENTWICKLER SIND!!!!

BTW: Jim häng endlich Credits von KVCD.NET, AVALON und vmesquita an USERE Anleitung.

CU on KVCD.NET

Edit: Ich hab den Post editiert, weil ich ne Runde drüber geschalfen hatte. Sorry für die Schimpfwörter...
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Translate it with google or so... I'm now to tired!!!!

Link to MVCD: http://www.molevcd.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19472#19472
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08-19-2003, 06:39 PM
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Thanks Avalon.

Link for Altavista English translation (not very good but better than not understand at all):

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...p=de_en&tt=url

I didn't understand waht did Lucike FZ meant in his reply.

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Nothing! There was once a Translator of DVDShrink with the same name...
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this shoult be named: someone at MVCD is stealing CCE Templates..
Quote:
Kwag@KVCD hat folgendes geschrieben::
Yes. Somebody should let them know
Too many people going to MVCD's site, and they don't really know how it (really) started and where it's roots (KVCD?) came from


@ Avalon / Kwag
Sorry 4 this, we can not controll both boards to look, if someone copies a Guide form one board to the other. Next time, please write me or the supporter/Admin of the thread a PN and it will be closed as soon as possible.
Auf Grund der Beschwerde geschlossen
und zu Kwags Bemerkung:
Nicht alles ist automatisch bei KVCD geklaut
Ich gebs auf, mich darüber zu ärgern, die 2.5er MVCD Templates haben nichts aber auch gar nichts mit KVCD zu tun, außer daß VBR benutzt wird, und das ist nicht geistiges Eigentum von kwag.
Sorry, aber da versucht man die Hand zu reichen und wird immer wieder angegriffen
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@Roc: Ok Roc. Ich hab den Titel geändert. Natürlich ist die MVCD 2.5ex Eure Creation und ich hab auch schon manche MVCDs erstellt. Ich hab nichts gegen Dich. Wieso sonst hätte ich nen Link zu Deiner Seite auf meiner Page?

Du bist so die Fusion von KVCD.net und MVCD. Das finde ich toll. Natürlich will ich jedem meine Hand reichen. Vielleicht helf ich auch Jim es auf die Reihe zu bekommen, nur wenn er aber einsieht, dass es eigentlich mein Werk und vmesquita's ist.

Mach weiter so Roc!
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