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12-01-2003, 05:34 PM
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I'm trying to merge a 2 disc SVCD to a 1 disc SKVCD (DVD2AVI-HeadAC3he - AVS - TMPGenc - BBMpeg).

What would you concider a reasonable CQ value (using the optimal DIVX script V4) for the video ? It looks as if I need to go below 60 (I have a 67 Mb large .mp2 file at 112 Kbps).
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12-01-2003, 07:40 PM
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60 is too low. Generally the range is between 65-70.
With V4 I try to be above 70 by changin the resolution. What about using CVD insteed of SVCD resolution ? (352*576 insteed of 480*576 ?).
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12-02-2003, 06:18 AM
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Yeah, should have thought of that .

Running new encode as we speak....with CVD resolution.......

Maybe even change to MPEG 1 instead of MPEG 2 ?
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12-02-2003, 07:05 AM
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Maybe even change to MPEG 1 instead of MPEG 2 ?
For sure, if your player is abble to handle taht, the results are better.
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12-02-2003, 02:03 PM
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Yep,

I guess I must try MPEG1 352x288 because at CVD MPEG2 I end up with a 822Mb .m2v file (min bitrate at 300 and max at 2000, CQ 70). I did use the second blockbuster line in my script I just noticed....

...keep you posted.

By the way.....is the GOP info in the forums optimal script section correct for animated material ? "For Anime/Cartoon material:
Same as DVD clean material, but shorten the GOP to 12 frames (PAL) or 15 (NTSC)". I remembered it at 14 for NTCS and 15 for PALl ???
Anyway, trying another encode now with 12.
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12-02-2003, 07:33 PM
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The values indicated are correct (yours are wrong). But be carreful, this is for classic anime carton (old disney), not for computer generated ones.

For your movie you can try to lower you min bitrate also.
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12-03-2003, 05:59 PM
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Damn......I have a nice muxed .mpg file now of 782 Mb or so, which looks very promising on PowerDVD so I want to make .bin file with VCD easy and some error message pops up that I've never seen before.

("this .mpg file requires autopadding") + in the log file "mpeg stream will be padded on the fly -- hope that's ok for you!".

Well, the .bin file is 794 Mb so that's good. but what does the error message mean ?

PS: as i normally always use D2S this is my first "manual" KVCD, so please bear with me (I followed the "KVCD from scratch guide")
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12-03-2003, 07:26 PM
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Well, the .bin file is 794 Mb so that's good. but what does the error message mean ?
They are just warning to tell you that some players will have problems to read the video. But this is the same as the warning telling that overburning can dammage your burner : I never see this happen.

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PS: as i normally always use D2S this is my first "manual" KVCD, so please bear with me (I followed the "KVCD from scratch guide")
What did you use for muxing ?

Note: please do not post in this forum if you do not use D2S !
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01-09-2004, 08:50 PM
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how do you do this m8?

i am trying to do the same thing..........put a 2 cd film onto 1 cd.


do you have to join the mpgs together?

or can you load ascript to do both without joining?

thanks
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01-09-2004, 09:17 PM
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Are they MPEG1 or MPEG2 ?
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01-10-2004, 03:58 AM
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The way I do it:

Handle eachr .avi separately and convert to a KVCD .mpg file (MPEG 1 or 2). Than you can just add both .mpg files in VCDeasy. Makes sure there is no pauze between the tracks....

So far I have done maybe 3 MPEG1 KVCD's this way and all have a problem on my standalone with playback speed increasing every 5 seconds.........I'm doing something wrong but cannot find what exactly......
MPEG2 I have done maybe 2 now and they are OK.....

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01-10-2004, 04:37 AM
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Are they MPEG1 or MPEG2 ?

i'm planning on doing both m8
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01-10-2004, 08:14 PM
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In case of 2 mpeg1 :

The begining of the script is
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a=directshowsource("part1.mpg").killaudio()
b=directshowsource("part1.mpg").killaudio()
a++b
The end of the script does not change

In case of mpeg2 : use dvd2avi to make a d2v project loading the 2 mpeg. Then use "mpeg2source("project.d2v") at begining of the script.
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01-11-2004, 05:29 AM
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thanks m8............

i know this might seem cheeky but..................

could you show me what a full script for 2 mpeg1 files would look like?

as i am very new to avs scripts.

thanks
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01-11-2004, 08:56 AM
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If you plan to use D2S, we should stop the thread : it is not possible.

I wan't to be sure that you have noticed that this discussion has nothing to do in thios section of the forum. Did you ?
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01-11-2004, 09:02 AM
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its not a prob m8...........

as long as i know how to load the 2 mpegs in to a proggy i will be sound...........whether it be ToK or acp or even just using cqmatic or tmpgenc on its own.


could you possibly write a very basic list guide for me?

if you just do it step by step and you don't have to go into massive detail.........but i may ask questions

thanks
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01-11-2004, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
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as long as i know how to load the 2 mpegs in to a proggy i will be sound...........whether it be ToK or acp or even just using cqmatic or tmpgenc on its own.
Okay.
So a script for 2 mpeg1 should be (I recommand to use my avi->kvcd script for doing that as mpeg1 and mpeg4 sources have the same artifacts to filter) :
Code:
a=directshowsource("part1.mpg").killaudio()
b=directshowsource("part2.mpg").killaudio()
a++b
BlindPP(cpu=4)
Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max=3,variance=0.1,seed=1)
Convolution3D(1, 6, 12, 6, 8, 2.8, 0)
GripCrop(WIDTH, HEIGHT, overscan=1, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")
Undot()
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)
DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)
#Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max=10,variance=0.3,seed=5623)
GripBorders()
Just change "WIDTH" and "HEIGHT" according to your target resolution.
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02-01-2004, 03:27 PM
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hi

can i use it with avs2 coz i am getting video desync.

i got codec problems with avs254
the script:
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRAM FILES\MOVIESTACKER\Filters\MPEG2Dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRAM FILES\MOVIESTACKER\Filters\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRAM FILES\MOVIESTACKER\Filters\BlockBuster.dll")



directshowsource("F:\sample352X240.mpg").killaudio ()

#b=directshowsource("F:\loveactually\love2.mpg").k illaudio()
#a++b
#BlindPP(cpu=4)


Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max =3,variance=0.1,seed=1)

#Convolution3D(1, 6, 12, 6, 8, 2.8, 0)


GripCrop(352, 240, overscan=2, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")

#Undot()
#TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)
#DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)
#Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_ma x=10,variance=0.3,seed=5623)

GripBorders()

what does blindpp do? i had to disable it coz it was not working
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02-02-2004, 06:03 AM
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No, you can't use the script with avs2.

Avs2 is prehistory. Walk into the future and use 2.5.4.

Directshowsource is bugged in all versions of avs prior to 2.5.3

BTW, You removed everything that actually filter the defaults in your picture BUT you keep the blockbuster one (that _ADD_ noise and work in pair with the convolution line that is just after) AND you resize with overscan=2 that is WAY TOO MUCH for 352*240.

So why do you use a script for that ? Your goal is to screw up your source ?

BlindPP is one of the most important line of the script. And ALL the others are important. I'm not used to give scripts with lines that do nothing .

When something does not work you must solve first the problems and then adapt the script if it does not do what you want to.
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