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a) You're welcome
b) also do check if your Standalone DVD Player also supports DVD-RW playback!
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a) You're welcome
b) also do check if your Standalone DVD Player also supports DVD-RW playback!
It does I like to sometimes use d DVD-RW to make sure my DVD-Lab compilations work o.k.
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Come on VM, we are three guys in same page with hanging problems. Could you give us further help?
What information do you need?
Ok, good news: I tested and I was able to reproduce the problem with mpeg1. Mencode-ME hung at 26%. Now let's see if I can track why.

Edit: I also noticed that with MPEG1 the average bitrate is not followed... Wierd.
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@vm,

Black Prince wrote:
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Great release MEncoderME v0.2

I had some minor problems:

1) program hung up system at 85% of 2nd pass

2) there was no log file to track the progress up to the crash

3) the partial .mpv file created (208MB) was great when viewed
with wmp, but it seemed MEncoder added cropping to the avs
MA script and the result was to much Height was cropped.
I have been having mixed success and now realize MEncoder
is a very complex encoder. I have changed my script to reflect
the parm settings for a mpeg-1 KVCD (352X240) and the results
are very bad (i.e. picture quality blocky, gibbs effects, etc.)
I'm using a batch file now and here's my script:

KVCD.bat
@ECHO on
::
::
set xx_path=f:\temp
set in_avi=kvcd.avi
set out_m1v=kvcd.m1v
::
::
mencoder -include MC.ini -lavcopts keyint=24 %xx_path%\%in_avi% -o %xx_path%\%out_m1v%
pause


MC.INI
of=rawvideo=1
ovc=lavc=1
nosound=1
noskip=1
sws=2
vf=yuvcsp,crop=720:480,scale=352:240:0:0:60,unshar p=l3x3:0.6,hqdn3d=3:6:8,unsharp=l3x3:-0.7:c3x3:-1.5,noise=2uh,expand=352:240:-1:-1:1
lavcopts=vcodec=mpeg1video:vrc_buf_size=327reme= 2recmp=2:vrc_maxrate=2000:vbitrate=781:autoaspec t=1:keyint=24:vstrict=-1:scplx_mask=0.3:vqblur=0:mbqmin=1:vqmin=1:mbqmin= 1:lmin=1:intra_matrix=8,9,12,22,26,27,29,34,9,10,1 4,26,27,29,34,37,12,14,18,27,29,34,37,38,22,26,27, 31,36,37,38,40,26,27,29,36,39,38,40,48,27,29,34,37 ,38,40,48,58,29,34,37,38,40,48,58,69,34,37,38,40,4 8,58,69,79:inter_matrix=16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,18 ,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,22,2 4,26,30,32,32,34,36,24,26,28,32,34,34,36,38,26,28, 30,32,34,36,38,40,28,30,32,34,36,38,42,42,30,32,34 ,36,38,40,42,44
ofps=23.976
fps=23.976


I don't understand the filter settings and many other settings in mc.ini
file. If anyone can spot some changes to create a better mpeg-1
video quality please feel free to comment.

Lastly, it would be helpful to have a sticky for optimal scripts just as
KVCD forum has for mpeg-1 and mpeg-2 encodes. This started out
as a newbie GUI post and has now become a GUI for experts

-BP
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@BP
Looks like I missed your last post. Let's see:
Quote:
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1) program hung up system at 85% of 2nd pass
Try the new 0.21, this should be fixed now.
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2) there was no log file to track the progress up to the crash
Good point... The problem is that mencoder keeps rewritting a progress line while encoding. If I rewrite this line all the time, encoding would slow down, and if I just keep writting this line without erasing, logfile would be huge... I am not sure what is worse.

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3) the partial .mpv file created (208MB) was great when viewed
with wmp, but it seemed MEncoder added cropping to the avs
MA script and the result was to much Height was cropped.
You must use the MakeAVIS filter combo when using Avisynth, otherwise MEncodeMe will do its own calculations and resize.
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Lastly, it would be helpful to have a sticky for optimal scripts just as
KVCD forum has for mpeg-1 and mpeg-2 encodes.
The idea of the GUi is exactly provide optimal settings "in a box", and let everyone share templates like they share scripts. If it's better to use mencoder directly with batch scripts... Well, maybe this GUI was not a good idea.
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This started out
as a newbie GUI post and has now become a GUI for experts
Yes, maybe there's no reason for this GUI to exist anymore....

@All
MEncodeME 0.21 is out, read the Changelog.

EDIT: Latest mencoder build added
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Thanks for your work in MEncoder-Me 0.21.

Another and easy question

Quote:
Originally Posted by VMesquita
a)Open DVDDecrypter, go to Tools/Settings/IFO Mode and change file splitting to none. This way DVDDecrypter will create a BIG VOB with the hole move, instead os splitting in 1GB pieces.
I can use the BIG VOB with classical method DVD2AVI+script Avisynth+TMPGEnc? Or I need splitting VOB files?

Thanks

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there is a need for this gui, there will alway be a need for this gui and all the other guis you make in future.

you are a legend
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VMesquita, ...

I just had a look into the folder of your newest MencoderME.

Thats a very good concept using filters and encoding lines separately, congrats!

Im at work now so I did let run MencoderME.exe on a "VirtualPC/Win2000" system on my MAC, means just to see your new layout of the interface. Very good!

I also did have a look into the target templates:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Half-KDVD.conf
2240
of=rawvideo=1
ovc=lavc=1
nosound=1
noskip=1
sws=9
lavcopts=vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_eq=tex:vmax_b_frame s=2:
vrc_maxrate=9800:aspect=%%ASPECT%%:keyint=15:
vrc_buf_size=1835reme=2recmp=2:vstrict=-1:
autoaspect=1:scplx_mask=0.3:vqblur=0:mbqmin=1:
vqmin=1:mbqmin=1:lmin=1:intra_matrix=8,9,12,22,26, 27,29,34,
9,10,14,26,27,29,34,37,12,14,18,27,29,34,37,38,22, 26,27,31,36,
37,38,40,26,27,29,36,39,38,40,48,27,29,34,37,38,40 ,48,58,29,34,
37,38,40,48,58,69,34,37,38,40,48,58,69,79:
inter_matrix=16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,18,20,22,24,2 6,28,30,32,20,
22,24,26,28,30,32,34,22,24,26,30,32,32,34,36,24,26 ,28,32,34,34,
36,38,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,28,30,32,34,36,38,42 ,42,30,32,34,
36,38,40,42,44
ofps=%%FPS%%
fps=%%FPS%%
And ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by KDVD Full.conf
4482
of=rawvideo=1
ovc=lavc=1
nosound=1
noskip=1
sws=9
lavcopts=vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_eq=tex:vmax_b_frame s=2:
vrc_maxrate=9800:aspect=%%ASPECT%%:keyint=15:
vrc_buf_size=1835reme=2recmp=2:vstrict=-1:
autoaspect=1:scplx_mask=0.3:vqblur=0:mbqmin=1:
vqmin=1:mbqmin=1:lmin=1:intra_matrix=8,9,12,22,26, 27,29,34,
9,10,14,26,27,29,34,37,12,14,18,27,29,34,37,38,22, 26,27,31,36,
37,38,40,26,27,29,36,39,38,40,48,27,29,34,37,38,40 ,48,58,29,34,
37,38,40,48,58,69,34,37,38,40,48,58,69,79:
inter_matrix=16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,18,20,22,24,2 6,28,30,32,20,
22,24,26,28,30,32,34,22,24,26,30,32,32,34,36,24,26 ,28,32,34,34,
36,38,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,28,30,32,34,36,38,42 ,42,30,32,34,
36,38,40,42,44
ofps=%%FPS%%
fps=%%FPS%%
Is there a another difference then the final MB value above, as I dont see another diff.?

Cause if encoding one movie to one DVD-R (for mega out of hell quality freaks) by using lmin=1 in my tests I could only get to 2000kbit avg maximal .. no matter if 2pass or 1pass.

Even I did set lmin=0.1 the max. possible avg was reached at approx. 3500kbit.

Also a fixed Keyintervall of 15 is used ... for PAL perfect, but for NTSC ...

BUT.... as I dont want to keep you working working working alone, I will do some tests this evening tweaking the DVD-Target Templates (I do not have experiences on doing KVCD or KSVCD using mencoder) and do PN you the ones ... then you can have a look into it and if you like it you can integrate it.
Is that an idea?
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04-23-2004, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fozzieb
there is a need for this gui, there will alway be a need for this gui and all the other guis you make in future.

you are a legend
I agree with you 110% on this fozzieb for newbs like me Encoding using MEncoder without this GUI would be a mine-field I hope vmesquita keeps up his good work with this and carries on to improve it.

Thanks vm.

I do have 1 question about VOBs if I was to extract it as one large VOB as stated in the beginning of this thread im worried about the FAT32 partition my hdd has not being able to support files over 4Gb. Will I be affected by this?

If so maybe its time i upgraded a partition to NTFS.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maurus
I can use the BIG VOB with classical method DVD2AVI+script Avisynth+TMPGEnc? Or I need splitting VOB files?
I never tried, but in theory, you can.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fozzieb
there is a need for this gui, there will alway be a need for this gui and all the other guis you make in future.

you are a legend
Thanks man, those were really great words!

Quote:
Originally Posted by incredible
Im at work now so I did let run MencoderME.exe on a "VirtualPC/Win2000" system on my MAC
MencodeME is multiplataform and it should be possible to nativelly compile it in MacOS enviroment. Unfortunatelly I never saw a Mac in my life and I don't have access to one... And if I had I probably would take some time to understand how it works (should be like freebsd?).
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Thats a very good concept using filters and encoding lines separately, congrats!
Yes, I thought one thing didn't had anything to do with the other, so I splitted the templates.
Quote:
Is there a another difference then the final MB value above, as I dont see another diff.?
No, there isn't.
Quote:
BUT.... as I dont want to keep you working working working alone, I will do some tests this evening tweaking the DVD-Target Templates (I do not have experiences on doing KVCD or KSVCD using mencoder) and do PN you the ones ... then you can have a look into it and if you like it you can integrate it.
Is that an idea?
Yes, a very good one. Unfortunatelly, I barelly have time to code the GUI right now, so improving the templates is impossible to me. But I would gladly integrate your improved templates. Please do so!
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Also a fixed Keyintervall of 15 is used ... for PAL perfect, but for NTSC ...
I know. The thing is, I don't think GOP should be in the GUI (because it can be automatically selected according to the target), but still haven't figured out the best way to integrate GOP setting in templates.

Quote:
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I do have 1 question about VOBs if I was to extract it as one large VOB as stated in the beginning of this thread im worried about the FAT32 partition my hdd has not being able to support files over 4Gb. Will I be affected by this?

If so maybe its time i upgraded a partition to NTFS
There's no way to select more than 1 VOB. So you need NTFS. But don't worry, if you are in WindowsXP you can upgrade easily. Just don't regret later (I don't see why you would), because you can't go from NTFS to FAT32.

EDIT:
@Inc
Try the new "Fast 704" filter combo, it only crops 16 pixels to go from 720 to 704, as you asked me.
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I do have 1 question about VOBs if I was to extract it as one large VOB
as stated in the beginning of this thread im worried about the FAT32 partition
my hdd has not being able to support files over 4Gb.
Will I be affected by this?

If so maybe its time i upgraded a partition to NTFS.
if you don't want to change for ntfs ,
in dvddecrypter/ifo mode/options you can adjust " file spliliting " to 4Gb max size!
i'm still using fat32 and works!
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if you don't want to change for ntfs ,
in dvddecrypter/ifo mode/options you can adjust " file spliliting " to 4Gb max size!
i'm still using fat32 and works!
Yes, but this will produce probably 2 VOBs and you'll have to encode one at a time. It's beter than many 1 Gb VOBs but still not the best solution.
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@vmesquita and jorel

Thanks for the info guys.

I am going to buy a 160Gig hard drive soon so i might just make a 20 gig NTFS filesystem for my Movie Rips and keep the main Windows partition FAT32 that way I get best of both Worlds.

Thanks also jorel for that tip I shall give that a try in the meantime.
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I tried the last version for coding 1cd - KVCD (AVI FC / 480x576 / 2 pass VBR / 25 fps @ 950 Kbps), but the encoder won't start: it stops on

SwScaler: BICUBIC scaler, from Planar YV12 to Planar YV12 using MMX2

Anyway, i can press Stop (this means that is NOT crashed). No errors with other Filtering Combos. Tested on both P4 & AthlonXP with same result.

So, where's the problem ?
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...160Gig hard drive soon so i might just make a 20 gig NTFS filesystem for my Movie Rips and keep the main Windows partition FAT32
Thanks also jorel for that tip I shall give that a try in the meantime.
if i right understood your idea,
means that i can use another partition with ntfs
and save a big .vob there using the 98se in c:
it will work please, confirm!
i never had think in that possibility!
now i'm thankful too!
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I tried the last version for coding 1cd - KVCD (AVI FC / 480x576 / 2 pass VBR / 25 fps @ 950 Kbps), but the encoder won't start: it stops on

SwScaler: BICUBIC scaler, from Planar YV12 to Planar YV12 using MMX2

Anyway, i can press Stop (this means that is NOT crashed). No errors with other Filtering Combos. Tested on both P4 & AthlonXP with same result.

So, where's the problem ?
Could you please post the complete logfile? Also, please test with a different source to see if the problem is not the source.
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Quote:
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...160Gig hard drive soon so i might just make a 20 gig NTFS filesystem for my Movie Rips and keep the main Windows partition FAT32
Thanks also jorel for that tip I shall give that a try in the meantime.
if i right understood your idea,
means that i can use another partition with ntfs
and save a big .vob there using the 98se in c:
it will work please, confirm!
i never had think in that possibility!
now i'm thankful too!
Hi jorel, afaik you can have a NTFS partition and FAT32 on Win XP.

I found >This< site with some info on the NTFS format I hope that can clear things up for you.
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but i use 98se, for this reason i ask and the link (thanks) don't answer this!

can i use 98se and another partition with ntfs to save big .vobs/ .avis ?


@all.....excuse my off topic!
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a) I think porting to other Systems should be not hasitating you/us.

b) You never saw a MAC .. uops, .. then you missed something

c) YEP! I saw that pure 720 to 704 just cropping template, ... thats exact the way I did change in my own Templates for the GUI.

Well mostly I still using .Bat files for starting the encoding as I need it to perform batch encodings, like last night 3 animes on one DVD-R (Toystory1, Tstory2, MonsterAG) inc. 1 audiotrack 5.1 256kbit each.
My special "godchild is visiting me edition" *lol*
But for shure I do also many tests using your GUI.

I also did integrate the besweet (latest updated ac3enc support build) command parameters so I get in one .bat file all jobs done

Yaz did tell in the mencoder compile thread that d2v also could directly via VFAPI be supported by the codecs.conf! (if I understood that right)... cause if yes, we can really drop that makeavis and doing further filtering totally in Mencoder! As DVD2AVI outputs everything we need: d2v and the AC3's.

Quote:
Originally Posted by yaz in the "How to Compile Mencoder"-Thread
- u can serve d2v directly, as dvd2avidg has it's own vfapi. so, if u want to filter within mencoder, u don't need makeavis at all.
the bests
we should figure out this.

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but i use 98se, for this reason i ask and the link (thanks) don't answer this!

can i use 98se and another partition with ntfs to save big .vobs/ .avis ?


@all.....excuse my off topic!
@all ... Sorry for the off-topic also but Im just going answer my friend jorel's question.

Afaik Windows 98SE can access NTFS drives in Win XP if you share it on a network but im not sure about if you have a NTFS partition along with a FAT32 partition.

I found >This< Tool for making a NTFS drive for Win98 but I think it makes the drive read only which really is no good.

I did some web searching and I found >This< site which tells you have to have your NTFS formatted HDD fully accessible to Windows 98.

I hope this helps buddy.
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