Jus did "A BUGS LIFE" gold edition: which is 95 mins long,
but also has the widescreen version on the same disc so its just over 3 hrs long. Basicly I did a 3hr & 10 minute movie with menus,extras & all english audio & all subtitles in 6 hrs (converted to VOB's & all)
All with DVD-Rebuilder 0.54 + CCE 2.67 & the "KVCD Notch Matrix"
let me tell u the quality is that unmatched by any transcoder i've ever seen ( & i've tryed em all)

I did a test on this movie with deen before undot & it looks worse that way
using a brand new flat screen 19 inch monitor & geforce 3 video card I came to this conclusion & I'll stick to my original findings & say to
all "Always put undot b4 deen"
try it you'll see.
this was script for DVD-Rebuilder ...

Undot()
Deen()
LetterBox(16, 16, 16, 16)

Did anyone else give rebuilder a shot??

OT in...!
bugs life gold edition with widescreen and 95 minutes long!?!? :o
i don't knew that...monday i will find it! :D i love "this type" of bugs!
OT out..!

The Untouchable,
like i wrote i don't saw differences in my short sample and long tests as you did, are always better.....if anyone more could do more tests will be great! :wink:
but tell us...what was worse using deen before undot? :?
hey, i need to test DVD-Rebuilder !

SORRY BUT IT IS ILLEGAL TO BACKUP DVD AND DISTRIBUTE THEM.BACKUPS SHOULD BE ONLY MADE FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY.READ THE THREAD DISCLAIMER.

In canada it's perfectly legal to make a backup for private viewing
(as long as you dont sell them) !!

But not to offer it to your nephew :!:
Private is private and generally stands for "inner family circle". But you have the right to backup them to let your nephew watch them AT YOUR HOME insteed of using the original DVD. That's what (and why) I started KVCD in fact :-)

... :P 8)

BTW : I'm currently using DVDRebuilder and the results are promising.

I'm doing Titanic, that is the perfect "client" for that : 3h long, no extras on the DVD (so no space lost), a lot of underwater scenes (of course ;-)), a lovely naked lady.. hum... that's not important indeed :-p

The quality is below what I have with Q mode generally but if the tool can do all the job in one click, then I will live with that little loss in quality. Doing a DVD with 2 language an 1 subtitle takes me generally all day long (DVD2AVI + Subrip + AC3Machine + CCE + DVD-Lab) ! Here the job should be performed in 5-6 hours and the original menu is supposed to be still present :-)

Just have to wait :-)

Note: they are a lot of option to setup manually before to do the first encode. Be carrefull if you try it !

Thing is it'll take about 5-6 hours on an "Athlon XP / P4"
But that is for a 3 hour movie
I did forrest which is 2 h & 15 mins i think & it took only 4 hrs & 45 mins
But the main idea is time & i step (click)
Besta luck to ya phil !!
C U in 5 hrs 8)

quality is beautiful for me ... better than alotta other encodes i have done in the past tho
But you aswell as I know it's actually CCE thats doing the encoding.

That will take a little longer as I encode at speed 0.70 and the job is performed in 2pass ( I forgot that :-))

I hope you set these option correctly :
- uncheck "convertoToYUY2"
- check "disable deinterlace" (except if you DVD was really interlaced)
- used "advanced avs script" option to set "Deen()/Undot()" as filter to be used in all script

With that all seems to be correct. The only drawback is the encoding cell by cell that prevent to know of much time is still expected before the end :-)

You talked about recoder, that's not the same ! For sure with a need in compression about 49.5% like I need for this movie, no recoder can do the job (recoder = dvdshrink or DVD2One for instance).
But quality is clearly below Q mode in CCE. And that is mainly due to this "cell by cell" way of processing : the 2pass bitrate optimization can't be performed on the whole movie as it is supposed to be :-(.

I just hope that subtitles will be in synch as that is the part that give me real pain in the ass generally.

I also do it at 2pass

But converttoyuv2 was left checked at default oops?
& I checked mpeg2source idct ect ect oops?

That's not so important. There is an opened point to know if it's better to let the system to perform the space color conversion or if it's better to have avisynth to do it before to feed the encoder. Noone really had the time to perform complete tests on that :-)

Lol. Also there is not importance : idct=7 speeds up things on P4 as it uses SSE2 intruction. No diff in quality, just speed. I use it also.

Sh%t phil I screwed up man, I thought that once I turn "disable interlace" on that it would stay on. But now I messed up, it goes back to off by default automaticly, I failed to see that & backed up 3 of my movies already which aren't interlaced
SO NOW ... due to me ecoding a non interlaced source as interlaced ...
is this bad or make things slower or pic worse or does it make the dvd not play right on certain players? please do answer
thankx 8)

Also I dont have a p4 its an amd athlon xp so is this also bad if i use mpeg2source icdt?

Not necessary : I thing that the tool trus DVD2AVI analisys. It's often wrong but not anytime. So with a little luck your DVD were encoded correctly.

If there weren't interlaced, but encoded as if they were, the result is clearly unwatchable ! Any movement of the camera will make you sick !
That's how I saw that my current job was done interlaced : I checked the first m2v once it was encoded and... :puke:

No, you won't have the speed benefit of idct=7, that's all.

hmmm well i've done 3 movies that were NOT interlaced
& encoded them as INTERLACED but they all look fine
why are your copys unwatchable & mine are clear ?

You are NTSC and am I PAL perhaps ?
I mean that NTSC has 2 fps that correspond generally to interlaced (29.970) or progressive (23.976). In Pal we use 25 for both and that surely make things a lot more noticiable.

(OT: for your widescreen DVD problem in other thread, DVDRebuild also indicate 4:3 in the main window when the DVD is not anamorphic, like the one I'm currently doing)

so does this mean i should redo them?
do u think power dvd 4.0 automaticly deinterlaces & that i just havent sen it for that reason?
they looked fine on the tv

TV are ALWAYS interlaced, even if the DVD is progressive (standalone does the interlacing).
If they look fine, why bother ?

what part of dvd2avi shouldent be trusted?
here it says progressive (in dvd2avi)
but looks interlaced (in the pic from dvd2avi)

Trust your eyes.
In my case taht was the opposite (detected as interlaced but in reality progressive).
But VERY FEW DVD are interlaced. Generally they are material issued from TV (live performance or TV shows). But blockbuster movies are almost all progressive.

in that case ... i only screwed up on 2 because bruce almighty turns out to be interlaces but detected in dvd2avi as progressive