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tigger 07-25-2003 10:13 PM

hi kwag, here´s one log from me, hope you can help :)

http://www.kvcd.net
CQMatic Version 1.0 RC-2
Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003.
All rights reserved.

Ready!
Project: C:\--== DVD RIPPING ==--\Band Of Brothers 10 Teile\Teil 4\bob.tpr

Creating: CQMatic.tpr


Execute.
Movie Time: 58
Average Bitrate: 1764
Prediction Only mode
Executing Prediction Phase...
Using CQ of 55.00
Encoder started...
Encoder end.
File size difference = -16642530.000000
Last CQ = 55.000000
Current CQ = 90.000000
CQ difference = 35.000000
Using CQ of 90.00
Encoder started...
Encoder end.
File size difference = -16642530.000000
CQ ABOVE watermark. CQ set to 90.0
Using CQ of 90.00
CQMatic complete!

like said before, after 1st pass, jumping to 90 :(

kwag 07-25-2003 10:25 PM

@tigger,

Post your .tpr file.
That's where the problem is.

-kwag

tigger 07-26-2003 12:55 AM

kwag, here it comes :)

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Job.MPEG.WizardCategoryName = ''
Job.MPEG.WizardSubFormatName = ''
Job.MPEG.WizardCaption = ''
Job.MPEG.WizardDescription = ''
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Job.MPEG.WizardAutoCalcVideoBitRate = False
Job.MPEG.WizardAutoChooseList.EnableVideoSize = False
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MinVideoBitRate = 0
Width = 240
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Job.MPEG.Audio.ChannelMode = 1
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Job.MPEG.Audio.CantUseMono = False
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Job.MPEG.Audio.BitRate_ReadOnly = False
Job.MPEG.Audio.CalcCRC = False
Job.MPEG.Audio.CalcCRC_ReadOnly = False
Job.MPEG.Audio.OriginalFlag = False
Job.MPEG.Audio.OriginalFlag_ReadOnly = False
Job.MPEG.Audio.CopyrightFlag = False
Job.MPEG.Audio.CopyrightFlag_ReadOnly = False
Job.MPEG.Audio.PrivateFlag = False
Job.MPEG.Audio.PrivateFlag_ReadOnly = False
Job.MPEG.Audio.EmphasisType = 0
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Job.MPEG.System.StreamType_ReadOnly = False
Job.MPEG.System.EnableCommentText = True
Job.MPEG.System.CommentText = 'MVCD V2.5'
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Video.SourceRange.StartTime = 0
Video.SourceRange.EndTime = -1
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kwag 07-26-2003 01:23 AM

Hi tigger,

I think this 'C:\--== DVD RIPPING ==--\Band Of Brothers 10 Teile\Teil 4\bob4.d' + '2v' is what is screwing everything :!:

Also, this:
Job.OutputFileName = 'C:\--== DVD RIPPING ==--\Band Of Brothers 10 Teile\Teil 4\bob4.m' + '1v'


Could you put your movie on a regular named folder,without the --== stuff :?:

So that it looks like this:
c:\DVD_RIPPS\Band Of Brothers 10 Teile\Teil 4\bob4.d2v :idea:

-kwag

tigger 07-26-2003 01:29 AM

ok!
i will try it!

i testet release 2, with 120min movie, i used max=2500, min=0.57*avg bitrate, and the video file is still getting a little bit too big, now ca. 20 mb, should be 780 ca, now its 801 ?
what else could i change?

kwag 07-26-2003 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger
ok!
i will try it!

i testet release 2, with 120min movie, i used max=2500, min=0.57*avg bitrate, and the video file is still getting a little bit too big, now ca. 20 mb, should be 780 ca, now its 801 ?
what else could i change?

Set MAX = 2,000Kbps.

-kwag

tigger 07-26-2003 06:22 AM

trying it now, with a 107 min movie.

max bitrate = 2000
min = 0.57 x avg bitrate = 518

predicted cq = 66,31

well lets see *G*

Razorblade2000 07-30-2003 06:39 AM

"For encode mode, 3:2 pulldown can not be used if the framerate is not 29.976 or 30 fps"

Source:
Avi @ 23,976 fps


Script:
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\GripFit_YV12.dll")
AviSource("H:\someavi\someavi.avi", false)
ConverttoYV12()
BlindPP()
GripCrop(528, 480, overscan=2, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
GripBorders()

Template used:
KVCDx3 MPEG2 NTSC

EDIT: MPEG1 works

J-Wo 07-30-2003 08:25 AM

Kwag: I'm testing release 1.0 with CQ_VBR, and I have my min/max bitrate set to 0.57*avg and 2000 respectively. However as soon as cqmatic does its CF sample, it raises the max to 3000 and it stays there throughout the prediction/encoding cycles. However if I encode at CQ this problem does not occur. The reason I was trying CQ_VBR was a previous post where you said Blockbuster was ineffective with CQ, but right now I'll run some tests and see if I concur on my own movies!

kwag 07-30-2003 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Wo
Kwag: I'm testing release 1.0 with CQ_VBR, and I have my min/max bitrate set to 0.57*avg and 2000 respectively. However as soon as cqmatic does its CF sample, it raises the max to 3000

Hi J-Wo,

I'm taking a look at that today. First thing on the list ;)

-kwag

kwag 07-30-2003 11:15 AM

@J-Wo and @vhelp (which reported the bug last night :cool: )

Fixed in 1.01:
When source is MPEG-2, and set to 3:2 Pulldown, first compression phase would bomb.
http://www.kvcd.net/CQMatic-1.01Release.exe

Thanks guys :D

-kwag

J-Wo 07-30-2003 03:31 PM

Kwag I don't think my problem is the same as the one reported by vhelp. 1.01release is still resetting the max bitrate to 3000 when using CQ_VBR and keeps it there throughout prediction and encode cycles, leading to inaccurate results.

kwag 07-30-2003 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Wo
Kwag I don't think my problem is the same as the one reported by vhelp. 1.01release is still resetting the max bitrate to 3000 when using CQ_VBR and keeps it there throughout prediction and encode cycles, leading to inaccurate results.

I didn't look at that :oops:
I fixed the 3:2 pulldown, and I completely forgot about the MAX bitrate in CQ_VBR :oops:
Looking into it right now :!:

-kwag

J-Wo 07-30-2003 04:57 PM

Thanks Kwag. I've gone back to RC-5 in the meantime and am trying to mess around with min/max bitrates. As of yet I've been getting highly inaccurate results with AVI files, so I want to see if playing with this values might help things or not.

kwag 07-30-2003 06:37 PM

Go grab it J-Wo ;)
http://www.kvcd.net/CQMatic-1.02Release.exe

-kwag

SodGawd 08-03-2003 02:42 PM

CQMatic
 
I have Version 1.05.. I have a strange one here... I load up my d2v straight into TMPGe 2.520, clear the source range/clip editing. I then save the text tpr. Load into CQMatic 1.05. I enter my settings: 73 mins and 1732 avg bitrate. I just wanna do a prediction. So I set that.

When I execute, TMPGE starts up.. after the initial compress check, I see that it is predicting using the whole movie and not a "sample;" all 131,000 frames. I must have done something incorrect. Suggestions?

vhelp 08-04-2003 11:12 PM

CQM 1.1.0 PRE 2 - 2 flicks and I'm out..
 
Hi,

Using TMPG v2.520 ...

With the newest release of CQM 1.1.0 PRE 2, I'm getting that nasty bug,
of TMPG flickering twice (maybe thrice)

Ok, here is my theory ...
When I first complete a successfull prediction and close down CQM, if I start
a new project, say I was re-calculating bitrates and proceeded to input
the new values in TMPG and then re-saved project as .txt file, when I go
back into CQM and select [Prediction] buttin, TMPG flickers twice and CQM
closes down (finishes, that is)

I'm thinking (theory) that when CQM completes a successfull prediction,
it is leaving something behind in TMPG.

But, if CQM does not complete successfully, a prediction (say I quit out of
CQM before completion) all is well w/ TMPG (AFAIK) and I can do another
CQM project w/ success.

Hope that makes some sense,
-vhelp

EDIT: - - Given the above, if I click the [Full Encode] button, TMPG
issues the error message: "Illegal stream format"

audi2honda 08-04-2003 11:20 PM

Re: CQM 1.1.0 PRE 2 - 2 flicks and I'm out..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vhelp
Hi,

Using TMPG v2.520 ...

With the newest release of CQM 1.1.0 PRE 2, I'm getting that nasty bug,
of TMPG flickering twice (maybe thrice)

Ok, here is my theory ...
When I first complete a successfull prediction and close down CQM, if I start
a new project, say I was re-calculating bitrates and proceeded to input
the new values in TMPG and then re-saved project as .txt file, when I go
back into CQM and select [Prediction] buttin, TMPG flickers twice and CQM
closes down (finishes, that is)

I'm thinking (theory) that when CQM completes a successfull prediction,
it is leaving something behind in TMPG.

But, if CQM does not complete successfully, a prediction (say I quit out of
CQM before completion) all is well w/ TMPG (AFAIK) and I can do another
CQM project w/ success.

Hope that makes some sense,
-vhelp

EDIT: - - Given the above, if I click the [Full Encode] button, TMPG
issues the error message: "Illegal stream format"

YOu need to clear the source range. Delete cut editing and click the default button. Then uncheck the box. It's in Avalons guide posted in a sticky on this forum.

vhelp 08-04-2003 11:24 PM

@ audi2honda,

Quote:

YOu need to clear the source range. Delete cut editing and click the default button. Then uncheck the box. It's in Avalons guide posted in a sticky on this forum.
Ahh, why should I have to resort to this EVERY time I successfully predict
w/ CQM ??

Oh well, anther issue for Kwag to deal with I guess.

Thanks for the suggest.. I'll try that right away :wink:
-vhelp

vhelp 08-04-2003 11:47 PM

Oh, forgot to make mention.. it's working now. :)

Thanks again.
-vhelp


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