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J-Wo 07-23-2003 07:02 PM

Kwag I'll give Beta 4a a whirl but I was still getting the bug with Beta 3 where it would just keep predicting the same CQ (presumably the correct CQ). I'll do another prediction with the same starting CQ to see if I get the bug again.

tigger 07-23-2003 07:34 PM

hi kwag!

beta4 looks fine, best one yet :) hehe...

prediction is fine, will see the result tomorrow (in form of the filesize *g*), will let you know :)

thx again for this great work! :)

bye

kwag 07-23-2003 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoSX
Is it normal that one prediction cycle is taking almost 20 minutes to complete? This with a 140 min. movie. It's going real slooooow....
Using the same script in ToK only takes 3-4 minutes on the first cycle.
This with a XP 2500 Barton. (Just upgraded)

Is that a full screen movie :?:
If it is, and for the length of the movie, probably :!:
But it seems quite a long time :roll:

-kwag

kwag 07-23-2003 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger
hi kwag!

beta4 looks fine, best one yet :) hehe...

prediction is fine, will see the result tomorrow (in form of the filesize *g*), will let you know :)

thx again for this great work! :)

bye

Get BETA 5 ;)

-kwag

kwag 07-23-2003 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Wo
Kwag I'll give Beta 4a a whirl but I was still getting the bug with Beta 3 where it would just keep predicting the same CQ (presumably the correct CQ). I'll do another prediction with the same starting CQ to see if I get the bug again.

Get BETA 5 :!:
That should be gone now.

-kwag

tigger 07-23-2003 08:00 PM

hehe too late :))
i´m encoding now, beta4 needed 4 predictions to find out the cq, looks fine, think it will work fine...

post you the results tomorrow :)
going to bed now ;)

bye :)

kwag 07-23-2003 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger
hehe too late :))
i´m encoding now, beta4 needed 4 predictions to find out the cq, looks fine, think it will work fine...

post you the results tomorrow :)
going to bed now ;)

bye :)

That's fine :)
You should get the same CQ as in BETA 4. The changes were only to correct high CQ values on short movies ;)

-kwag

NismoSX 07-23-2003 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoSX
Is it normal that one prediction cycle is taking almost 20 minutes to complete? This with a 140 min. movie. It's going real slooooow....
Using the same script in ToK only takes 3-4 minutes on the first cycle.
This with a XP 2500 Barton. (Just upgraded)

Is that a full screen movie :?:
If it is, and for the length of the movie, probably :!:
But it seems quite a long time :roll:

Nope, it's a 576 x 320 AVI file. I let it run for 2.5 hour, and it was still prediciting when I decided to cancel. When predicting time exceeds encoding time, then there must be something wrong. :roll:
Really weird. I'll see tomorrow if the Duron 1300 at work is any faster.

totonho03 07-24-2003 12:41 AM

Hello:

I have two issues tha I can not resolve.
1.- I am getting the "illegal stream format" error. Please note that I have ensured that the source range was cleaned, prior to loading the avs file. After setting the kvcd settings @ tmpgenc, and checking the settings, I saved the .tpr as text.
Once Cqmatic started working, it gave me the error message. However, it continued encoding at CQ 90. Which will bring me to my second point:

2.- This is a 4:3 movie, and Tmpgenc was adjusted accordingly, however, the movie appears to be stretched, as viewed in the TMPGenc screen... which more or less is an indication on how it will look in the TV set.
My TMPGenc settings:
Mpeg1
352 X 480
4:3 display23.976 fps (Please note that avi stated that this was a 29.7..fps)
Automatic VBR, CQ 60
max rate: 2000kbps
min rate: 712 kbnos ( 1249X.57).Advance settings:
Interlace
Bottom field first (field b)
4:3 display

It will take 12 hours to complete this kvcd, so......... will check it it again tomorrow a.m. (I may just sto encoding at 9 or 10 a.m. tomorrow)

One thing that I just noticed, while I am very sure that under the video tab, the aspect ratio was 4:3 NCTA, hoewever, after loading the .tpr file is now encoding as 1:1 (VGA). Similarly, in the advanced tab I selected the 4:5 525 lines NTSC, however it is now working under 4:3 display

Thanks Totonho

Krassi 07-24-2003 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totonho03
1.- I am getting the "illegal stream format" error. Please note that I have ensured that the source range was cleaned, prior to loading the avs file. After setting the kvcd settings @ tmpgenc, and checking the settings, I saved the .tpr as text.
Once Cqmatic started working, it gave me the error message. However, it continued encoding at CQ 90. Which will bring me to my second point:

Hi Totonho,
please try doube-clicking on Source Range and confirm the error messages. Renew start and end frame and leave the window. Then uncheck it again and save your project.

tigger 07-24-2003 01:26 AM

hmm

cqmatic did a fine job on calculating the cq, but the filesize was too short,

instead of being 687 mb for the videostream, the file was 508 mb :(

testing beta 5...

Krassi 07-24-2003 01:39 AM

Beta 5 seems to have squashed the bug.
Haven't had the same error with looping :D
I' ll test Beta 5 right now with a short movie.

tigger 07-24-2003 01:45 AM

testing now also :)
hope beta5 is solving my problem here :)
lets pray :P :P :P

kwag 07-24-2003 04:17 AM

I just looked at my result from "K-Pax", done with BETA 5, and the file size was also ~-20MB, perfectly consistent with my previous encode of "Boondock Saints".
I'm doing a long one now (K19), to see if it matches the same final ratio.

-kwag

Krassi 07-24-2003 05:08 AM

I can't believe it. The bug seems to exist also in beta 5:
Start-CQ:55, 23 mins movie, 833-2000, Script without filters.

After many predictions CQMatic gave 3 times 51.84, then lowered to 51.83 and now its repeating this value :cry: . Can this be a PAL issue :?:

Krassi 07-24-2003 05:21 AM

Another one i've just had:
Because i had problems with the starting CQ of 55 and 60, i lowered it to 50. After one prediction, it encoded directly. Same with starting-CQ of 40 8O .

Sorry Kwag bothering you with so many bugs :roll: :!:

kwag 07-24-2003 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krassi
Another one i've just had:
Because i had problems with the starting CQ of 55 and 60, i lowered it to 50. After one prediction, it encoded directly. Same with starting-CQ of 40 8O .

Sorry Kwag bothering you with so many bugs :roll: :!:

Not at all :!: bother as many times as needeed :!:
That's the way things get fixed :)
Why isn't that I can't reproduce that here :twisted:
So you mean that when you started at 40 and 50, it found the CQ in one try :?:
But it was about the same CQ to encode, but not 40 or 50 right :?:
Let me look again at the source. This can't be a PAL issue. It's a kwag(bug) issue :lol:
This might be a stupid question, but I have to ask: You are sure you are running the BETA 5 executable :?: It does show "Beta 5" when you run CQMatic, because it happened to me the other day, that I was running an older version, thinking it was the latest :roll:

-kwag

Krassi 07-24-2003 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Not at all :!: bother as many times as needeed :!:
That's the way things get fixed :)

:D
Quote:

Why isn't that I can't reproduce that here :twisted:
PAL-maybe...
Quote:

So you mean that when you started at 40 and 50, it found the CQ in one try :?:
Yep.
Quote:

But it was about the same CQ to encode, but not 40 or 50 right :?:
Not sure what you mean. First time it was 50, second 40. Thats what surprised me. Now i've started from 20 and its around 24 now...
Quote:

Let me look again at the source. This can't be a PAL issue. It's a kwag(bug) issue :lol:
:mrgreen:
Quote:

This might be a stupid question, but I have to ask: You are sure you are running the BETA 5 executable :?: It does show "Beta 5" when you run CQMatic, because it happened to me the other day, that I was running an older version, thinking it was the latest :roll:
Yep. Using Beta 5.

Krassi 07-24-2003 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krassi
Now i've started from 20 and its around 24 now...

And now its stucked to 23.93 :evil:

kwag 07-24-2003 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krassi
Quote:

Originally Posted by Krassi
Now i've started from 20 and its around 24 now...

And now its stucked to 23.93 :evil:

8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
Anyone else with this problem :?:
What is your TMPEG version ( not that it should matter, if the program is running :!: )
What Windows version are you using :?:
Sorry to bother ( :lol: ) but I'd like to narrow things down :D

-kwag


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