KVCD: I can use Classic VBR, Right?

[DJ_Izumi]

While I'm experianced with Mpeg encoding, I've never touched the GOP and left Tmpgenc at it's default.

Everything I read speaks of using a CQ setting, well I don't like the guess work that is involved in CQ. I can just use a classic 2 pass VBR... right?

[Dialhot]

If you plan do do like you always did (using VBr, do not touch the GOP nor the matrix....) just continue with SVCD.

If you plan to have the best that KVCD can give to you, you have to do all we do, including using CQ mode.

And between the two, you can do whatever you want, of course, but do not complain about the quality of the result.

[muhali3]

yeah , i did some tests a while ago with 2-pass VBR and then with CQ. The 2-pass VBR output had very bad quality when compared to CQ.

If you search the forum, there is a thread that has pics comparing the two.
I just forgot where it is

[kwag]

This is the thread: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2073
( And it's a Loooong thread! )

-kwag

[kwag]

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Originally Posted by DJ_Izumi

While I'm experianced with Mpeg encoding, I've never touched the GOP and left Tmpgenc at it's default.

Then you get "Standard" quality results. Not optimal, as we do.

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Everything I read speaks of using a CQ setting, well I don't like the guess work that is involved in CQ.

You have several choices: ToK, acp, CQMatic and manual prediction. All are discussed in this site.

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I can just use a classic 2 pass VBR... right?

Sure, but you get sub quality, compared to KVCD

-kwag

[Encoder Master]

CQ encode from frame to frame and set the optimal bitrate for this but 2-pass doesen't and it's too long.

[incredible]

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Originally Posted by muhali3

The VBR output had very bad quality when compared to CQ.

They're both doing their job in VBR

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Originally Posted by Encoder Master

CQ encode from frame to frame ...

Both do encode mpeg "from frame to frame"!
Read the thread mentioned by KWAG a few postings above there you can see what's going on.

PS: By the way, ... you still have your ad-sig applied, ... you're playing with peoples sensibilities in here Its enough to receive such ad's day by day as Spam-Emails... don't you think so too Encoder Master?

[Encoder Master]

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PS: By the way, ... you still have your ad-sig applied, ... you're playing with peoples sensibilities in here Its enough to receive such ad's day by day as Spam-Emails... don't you think so too Encoder Master?

I don't know what you mean. Write in german.

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Both do encode mpeg "from frame to frame"!
Read the thread mentioned by KWAG a few postings above there you can see what's going on.

I think you know what I mean. It set the bitrate better than 2-pass.

[Dialhot]

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Originally Posted by Encoder Master

I don't know what you mean. Write in german.

But Kwag can speak english and will understand. I'll ask him to fix the problem as it seems you take us for fools.

[Encoder Master]

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you take us for fools

No

[incredible]

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Originally Posted by Encoder Master

I think you know what I mean. It set the bitrate better than 2-pass.

Well this now goes far away from topic and its not my intention to be offensive but ....

I do know what you intend to say but! A forum does not only exist just to offer dialogues between two persons and therefore to "clean up" their different point of views. A Forum and especial it's threads are like a "refering manual Book" for people outside of the actual discussion. And that's why there will be arguments from others if you say something wrong or something spoken too generally and not specific if its needed.

PS: If you don't understand something go to www.google.de and use "Sprachtools"(Languagetools) this will give you an understandable translation. Cause in this area of the forum the rule is to keep the english language and thats why I don't answer you in german, sorry ...

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I think you know what I mean. It set the bitrate better than 2-pass.

As I said .... read the thread posted above, at least in a german translation.

[kwag]

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-kwag