KVCD: File Size Too Big for CD-R? (837mb)

[khusru]

my file size is still too big, im encoding 12 monkeys, i cut off the credits so its just on 2 hours, i used calcumatic, worked out the average bit rate to be 705, started cqmatic, let it run tmpg and got a file that was 837mb big, what am i doing wrong?

this is the templae i am using

kvcdx3 mpeg 2 576x528, when it was encoding on the bottom of the tmpg screen it had the cq number which was still 60, is this not supposed to change??

[khusru]

heres my log from cqmatic

http://www.kvcd.net
CQMatic Version 1.2.06
Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003.
All rights reserved.
Time: 11:27:00 Date: 01/12/2004
Ready!
Project: C:\Documents and Settings\Khusru Miah.HOMEPC1\My Documents\video\12 monkeys\test.tpr

Creating: CQMatic.tpr


Project resolution: 528x576
Execute.
Movie Time: 120
Average Bitrate: 715
Full Encode mode
Executing Prediction Phase...
Process started at 11:27:53
On 01/12/2004
CQ set for prediction
Setting up initial sampling.
Using CQ of 60.00
Prediction cycle #1
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.03 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -10982400.000000
Low fence: 60.000000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 60.00
Current CQ = 75.00
CQ difference = 15.000000
Using CQ of 75.00
Prediction cycle #2
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.02 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -10982400.000000
Low fence: 75.000000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 75.00
Current CQ = 82.50
CQ difference = 7.500000
Using CQ of 82.50
Prediction cycle #3
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.03 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -10982400.000000
Low fence: 82.500000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 82.50
Current CQ = 86.25
CQ difference = 3.750000
Using CQ of 86.25
Prediction cycle #4
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.02 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -10982400.000000
Low fence: 86.250000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 86.25
Current CQ = 88.13
CQ difference = 1.875000
Using CQ of 88.13
Prediction cycle #5
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.02 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -10982400.000000
Low fence: 88.125000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 88.13
Current CQ = 89.06
CQ difference = 0.937500
Using CQ of 89.06
Prediction cycle #6
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.02 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -10982400.000000
Low fence: 89.062500
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 89.06
Current CQ = 89.53
CQ difference = 0.468750
Using CQ of 89.53
Prediction cycle #7
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.02 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -10982400.000000
Low fence: 89.531250
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 89.53
Current CQ = 89.77
CQ difference = 0.234375
Using CQ of 89.77
Prediction cycle #8
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.02 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -10982400.000000
Low fence: 89.765625
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 89.77
Current CQ = 89.88
CQ difference = 0.117188
Final CQ value is 89.77
Encoding set to Full encode.
Full encode start...
CQMatic complete!
Total minutes of process: 0.17
Process ended at 11:28:03
On 01/12/2004

[Dialhot]

Quote:

Originally Posted by khusru

heres my log from cqmatic

All the size a negatives, that means that CQMatic faisl. And the problem is there :

Quote:

Project: C:\Documents and Settings\Khusru Miah.HOMEPC1\My Documents\video\12 monkeys\test.tpr

This path is FAR TOO LONG !
All paths and filenames involved in the process must be very shorts.
Put everything in C:\KVCD for instance.

Second : the time process for each setp is so short that I'm sure TMPGENC fails also. That means that you did not reset the cut editing nor the source range.

[mistermickster]

Basic steps:-

1. Open TMPGEnc.
2. Press Ctrl-N & OK or click File->New->OK.
3. Load your favourite template.
4. Load the unlock template and make any setting changes you require.
5. Load your script/source file.
6. Save as 'text' project file (make sure paths and filenames are short and contain no spaces).
7. Open CalcuMatic to get Average bitrate.
8. Open CQMatic.
9. Locate your TMPGEnc project.
10. Enter movie length in minutes, and average bitrate.
11. Select your prediction method (X1 or X3).
12. Hit Execute.

There you have it, process in a nutshell. If you make sure the items in bold are adhered to you shouldn't have a problem.

[khusru]

the time process is short on the log because its the one i did afterwards just to show the log, what do u mean by resetting the source range and cut editing????

thanks for all ur help il follow ur guide

[Dialhot]

Open tmpgenc, open you project (the one that cause you problem). Go to settings, advanced, Source range. Do not worry if there is a error window that pop-ups, just confirm.
Click on "Default", then "Cut editing" and there click on "Reset cut editing" if it is not greyed.
Then click oK, UNCHECK the "source range" box and click OK.
Save the project as text project. That's all.

YOU MUST DO THIS EACH TIME before saving the tpr file that you want to give to CQMatic.

[CheronAph]

What are the settings for?

[Dialhot]

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheronAph

What are the settings for?

Can you explain a little more what you want to know ? Which setting are you talking about ?

[CheronAph]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot

Open tmpgenc, open you project (the one that cause you problem). Go to settings, advanced, Source range. Do not worry if there is a error window that pop-ups, just confirm.
Click on "Default", then "Cut editing" and there click on "Reset cut editing" if it is not greyed.
Then click oK, UNCHECK the "source range" box and click OK.
Save the project as text project. That's all.

These settings.

[Dialhot]

Cut editing can be use to cut of certain parts of the source (commercials for instance).
Source range setting is to set a start and end point to the encoding process when you want for instance remove the opening and end credits.

CQMatic needs to use these settings to take a 2 mintue sample within the film (in fact in takes 120 sample of one second each). That is why we must reset all previous settings before saving the project.

[khusru]

How can i still cut off say the end credits if these settings are reset???

thanks for all the help dialhot

[mistermickster]

You do it in DVD2AVI

Setting start and end points before saving the project.