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05-18-2004, 07:45 PM
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Hi guys, I was wondering how I would go about squeezing two or three movies on to one DVDr using PackShot.

What I wanted to know really is about how to predict the correct bitrate to fit them all on, what would I need to change the average bitrate?

Is this possible at all?

Until the batch processing comes out I just wanted to give it a go manually.

Thanks in advance for any help given.
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Hi Zyphon,

Use CalcuMatic, and add ~25MB overhead (per movie) for muxing.
That's it

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Thanks for the info Karl.

So would my best bet be to rip the two or so movies and then make one big D2V project out of the whole lot and use Calcumatic to find the average bitrate?

The reason I say d2v is that Calcumatic doesnt accept VOB files directly.

What im after is trying to put my Back To The Future 12&3 box-set onto one DVDr.
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You don't need to make a .d2v
Add the total play time of all three movies, enter that manually into CalcuMatic. Select "Custom" size, and enter 4200 (for safety mux margin).
Now click on "Calculate"..
Encode with the given average value

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Thanks Karl for clearing that up for me I shall now put that info to good use.
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Or wait for the next version of CalcuMatic, which will that automatically
(Should be out some time today)

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Or wait for the next version of CalcuMatic, which will that automatically
(Should be out some time today)

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That's what I've kept forgeting to ask Kwag!
Make Calcumatic Mencoder compliant.
Man, I can't wait to download it.
You say today: USA today or Europe today (timezones and timezones and more timezones )
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Someone plan to make a mencoder version of Moviestacker ?
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Or wait for the next version of CalcuMatic, which will that automatically
(Should be out some time today)

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Kwag, you're a developer or magician
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Someone plan to make a mencoder version of Moviestacker ?
great ...maybe Vinícius, Kwag and ink ......and the prog will be called....


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great ...maybe Vinícius, Kwag and ink ......and the prog will be called....


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Or wait for the next version of CalcuMatic, which will that automatically
(Should be out some time today)

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Excellent Karl, thank you so much a great update to this excellent tool, yet another tool to ease the headaches out of encoding.

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Someone plan to make a mencoder version of Moviestacker ?
That is an excellent idea Phil, I hope this can be a reality one day.

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great ...maybe Vinícius, Kwag and ink ......and the prog will be called....


VIKING
Lol, that sound like an excellent name for the Ultimate tool jorel.
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Telepathy
I already talked to muaddib about that, about 4 days ago

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Someone plan to make a mencoder version of Moviestacker ?
Im on it, well first for Packshots internal resizing so individual AVI sizes would be supported (mpeg4) and if that works also beside this there could be released a nice little pocket size calculator as stand alone aplication....
the only problem is the Overscan calculation! Means to integrate "resized" overscan into a first crop and then scale function.... with a little string window where the right parameters for the commandline will be outputted.
I talked to VM as his nice DivxResize avs function is a nice template for programming! But then using "overlayed" overscan

... but easier and MORE logic would be first size and then crop!
And if there is defenitely NO issue with mencoder to first resize and then crop there will be no problem ...

The root of my calculations:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~f76998/video/co...nversion_table
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One more question relating to this topic guys.

At the moment I dont have a large enough HDD to rip 3 movies at once (Will be getting a bigger one soon).

So what I was thinking was, use Calcumatic with the playing time added up of all 3 movies find the average bitrate and then enter that into PackShot.

Then rip one movie and enter the VOB into PS and the bitrate given by Calumatic and then rip the next movie and do the same again and so on.

Will this work?
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So what I was thinking was, use Calcumatic with the playing time added up of all 3 movies find the average bitrate and then enter that into PackShot.
Yes, but do it like this:
Select "Custom" in CalcuMatic, and enter 4300 - 75 = 4225 (three video streams, each will have ~25MB mux overhead), leaving the "No Mux Overhead" as is.
Enter the total time in minutes/seconds and select the audio bitrate. Click on Calculate, and take your average bitrate. That's it

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Lovely thank you very much much for tip Karl, hopefully I can fit all 3 on one dvd.
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