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08-21-2002, 09:05 AM
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I recently tried the samples from the templates page with the following results:

film_352x240.mpg --> works nice and fine
film_352x480.mpg --> doesn't work. I got a screen full of green macroblocks and garbled up sound.
KVCD_704x480_PLUS.mpg --> doesn't work, same as 352x480.

The JVC XV-E112 is sold in The Netherlands and it plays the following formats: CD, DVD, MP3, VCD, SVCD.

Someone mentioned to me to remux the 352x480 and the 704x480 to SVCD and then they should play. I will try that later, after I have found out how exactly to do that...

I encoded a small part of a DVD (Saving Private Ryan) using the KVCD-CQ-352x288-_PAL_-PLUS.mcf template and it looked very fine.
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08-21-2002, 12:05 PM
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Hi Haay1971,
If you can't make the 352x480 or 704x480 resolutions work, go for the SKVCD, as your system plays SVCD's. This should work on your system. Did you download the SKVCD sample and tested it?

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08-28-2002, 02:21 AM
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Hi Kwag,

Okey, update here. The KVCD PLUS 352x480 NTSC sample (from your dvd-models page) burned to a CD configured as SVCD non-standard compliant (instead of to a non-standard VCD) did work, but the video was stuttering a bit. When I remuxed that sample to SVCD header and burned to CD as SVCD non-standard compliant, it was perfect.

Same for the SKVCD (NTSC) sample. Burned directly to CD (non-standard SVCD) the video stutters, but if I remux to SVCD header then it plays fine.

<edit> Maybe the stuttering is caused by the file being NTSC and me accidentally having burned it as PAL? That could explain the regular stuttering, when the 23.975 (?) fps film has to catch up to the 25 fps needed for PAL. I will need to test some more here.</edit>

I tried to rip a scene from my new Back to the Future DVD using SKVCD PAL template, but a 6 minutes 40 seconds scene already becomes something like 116 MB, so extrapolating that to a full CD I could fit around 40 minutes on one CD. I know PAL takes up some more space than NTSC, but it couldn't be THAT much, could it?

Alternatively I ripped the whole Back to the Future DVD using the 352x288 PAL KVCD-PLUS template, and it became a file of around 980 MB, so there is definitely space for improvement here, to make it fit nicely on 2 CDs with better picture quality. This rip definitely looks better than standard VCD, so it's already getting acceptable, but I'm not satisfied yet

Next I will try your new KVCDX3 template. Considering my previous experience with the KVCD templates at higher than VCD resolutions, I think I better try the KVCDx3-MPEG-2-PAL template right from the start and burn as SVCD.

-Haay
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08-28-2002, 02:32 PM
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Okay, this is what I did:
I downloaded three of the sample files of the KVCDX3 template
(dolby-game-kvcdx3-mpeg1.mpeg)
(matrix-kvcdx3-mpeg1.mpeg)
(time-machine-kvcdx3-mpeg1.mpeg)

Next I de- and remuxed the files to MPEG-2 Super VideoCD (VBR).
Burned the new files to CD using Nero using SVCD template and non-standard compliant.

And it worked! Files play fine and look great! Very good!!!
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08-28-2002, 02:37 PM
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Thanks Haay1971,
I encoded all the samples ( audio and video ) with TMPEG. That's why so many people are having problems. BBMpeg is a better muxer than TMPEG. So probably just encoding with the templates as they are, and muxing with BBMpeg, fixes all problems. No need to demux/remux. Just encode video stream only with TMPEG, and audio with an external encoder ( headac3he, etc ), and mux both streams.

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01-22-2003, 05:46 PM
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So probably just encoding with the templates as they are, and muxing with BBMpeg, fixes all problems. No need to demux/remux. Just encode video stream only with TMPEG, and audio with an external encoder ( headac3he, etc ), and mux both streams.
Kwag,

Thats exlatly what I did with my DVD rip (TheSumOfAllFears)

I used KVCDx3 MPEG1 templete on TMPEGNce, I used FitCD with some basic filters, I encoded my AC3 with headac3he, Then I mux my video and audio with BBMpeg as VCD. Then I burned it with Nero as VCD.

The Movie looked perfect when playback on my DVD ROM with Power DVD
But when I played it on my JVC 300bk I got the Green Flashing Screen, fastforward playback, mestup auido, all scrambled up.

I then went back tried to mux my original video(from TMPEG) and Audio
with BBmpeg as SVCD, The resulting file was an MPEG And the weired thing was that WMP and ROP would only play the Audio of the Movie.

So I though Its imposible to Mux a MPEG1 as SVCD, I stil dont know why that happend

Any ways i decided to simply Burned the previous Mux MPEG1 with Nero as SVCD. But I Got The Same Results. An other CD WASTED, I'm going to do more testing with a CD-RW

By the Way I Havn't tried the De-Multiplex and Multiplex strategy that Haay1971 mentioned, IF That Works for my JVC I Guess That's the Way To GO

One Question to Haay1971: Do You have to change the Sreem Type of the KVCD Templtes to MPEG2, OR YOU JUST LEAVE IT ALONE

IF I SKIPPED IMMPORTANT INFORMATION "PLEASE REPLAY"
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01-27-2003, 03:59 PM
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Okey I guess I'm Just Beign Ignored

I'm doing a lot testing know, Because I Just bought one of the Fucked Up JVC's that Doesn't play some of the Dope ass And Amazing Tepletes off Kwag, especially the (60 minute Near DVD Quality 704x480).

All I want IS to find a way to Play this templetes on Those JVC's.

I know you can Encode as MPEG2 and it will Work, But quality changes A lot, MPEG2's look darker, On dark Sences You can berly tell whats Happening.

And the Re Muxing Strategy Doesn't work if you first Mux with bbMPEG,

I'm Keepeing a dataShit off Every Test, This Datashit containts the Options I used From DVD2AVI to MUXING ETC.

If any Body Foud the A Good Solution Pleas Tell ME,

Even Though I know this Post is Going to Be Ignoerd TOO.
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01-27-2003, 11:35 PM
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I know JVC says it supports VCD and SVCD and 352x240 mpeg1 works...

Has anyone tried a 480x480 mpeg1 ?
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