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Forum: Audio Conversion 10-01-2004, 03:18 AM
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Posted By kwag
Great :D BTW, new release of Vorbis :cool: ...

Great :D

BTW, new release of Vorbis :cool:
http://www.vorbis.com/news.psp

-kwag
Forum: Audio Conversion 10-01-2004, 03:13 AM
Replies: 119
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Posted By kwag
BTW, I just bought this last night:...

BTW, I just bought this last night: http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-700%20Series the iFP-790 (256MB model), and it plays my OGGs sweeeeeet :cool:
Only problem, which I already...
Forum: Audio Conversion 10-01-2004, 03:05 AM
Replies: 119
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Posted By kwag
Nope. Don't do that. There's a bug in LAME :!: ...

Nope. Don't do that.
There's a bug in LAME :!:
Don't use a q lower than 2.
Check hydrogenaudio forums. I can't remember the link right now, but it's there.

-kwag
Forum: Audio Conversion 10-01-2004, 02:55 AM
Replies: 119
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Posted By kwag
Me too :mrgreen: Yep. For sure. It's limited to...

Me too :mrgreen: Yep. For sure. It's limited to 128Kbps min
Version 3.96.1
BTW, my latest (and probably last settings) are now.
-vbr-new -q 2 -V 2 ;)
You get full range from 32Kbps to 320Kbps,...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-17-2004, 08:58 PM
Replies: 119
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Posted By kwag
It's very easy to test it yourself :) Just...

It's very easy to test it yourself :)
Just extract your favorite audio CD track to WAV, and type:

lame --alt-preset standard mywavefile.wav
Note the file size.

Then try this:

lame...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-17-2004, 07:48 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Hi Guys, Well, I have to say that I found...

Hi Guys,

Well, I have to say that I found something better than MP3's "--alt-preset standard" :D

It's "--vbr-new"

Here's what happens. When you encode with "--alt-preset standard", you are...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-12-2004, 03:10 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
@muaddib (and all!), I just ran several...

@muaddib (and all!),

I just ran several tests, using the song "Survivor - I Can't Hold Back", and indeed, using ABX function I am able to tell "someting" is not the same, even with Q = 4.0 in...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-09-2004, 10:38 AM
Replies: 119
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Posted By kwag
Foobar2000 is really the bomb 8O I hadn't seen...

Foobar2000 is really the bomb 8O
I hadn't seen all the options it had :!:
I like Winamp too, but I think I'll be using foobar from now on.
Thanks muaddib ;)

-kwag
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-08-2004, 11:47 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
You mean the Ogg :?: But its only a container,...

You mean the Ogg :?:
But its only a container, and there's already the Theora video project, that is also wrapped in Ogg :)
http://www.theora.org/
And:
http://www.speex.org/
It seems to me Ogg...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-08-2004, 10:34 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Hi Boulder, Why can't you trust the samples...

Hi Boulder,

Why can't you trust the samples provided by vorbis :?:
They provide the original uncompressed WAV for all samples :!:
Then for every sample, they provide the .ogg, .wma and .mp3 for...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-07-2004, 10:31 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Ok, so I think Nero's AAC encoder and Vorbis are...

Ok, so I think Nero's AAC encoder and Vorbis are the top of the crop :)
All other Codecs are dust in the wind :!:
Now let's do some 40Kbps tests with some complex music, and see how they both stack...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-07-2004, 10:08 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Hi muaddib, Look at your file, and you'll...

Hi muaddib,

Look at your file, and you'll see that it's encoded at 22Khz :)
Same thing happened to me :!:
And there are no high frequency details on that AAC file, compared to the Vorbis sample,...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-06-2004, 04:22 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Yeah :!: :D

Yeah :!: :D
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-06-2004, 02:50 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
@Rui, Here's a list of current hardware...

@Rui,

Here's a list of current hardware players with vorbis support :)
http://www.ogghelp.com/ogg/hardware.cfm

-kwag
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-06-2004, 02:41 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Sorry jorel :oops: Wrong file name :? Try it...

Sorry jorel :oops:
Wrong file name :?
Try it again :!:

-kwag
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-06-2004, 01:06 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Here we go: ...

Here we go:

http://www.kvcd.net/test-faac.aac
http://www.kvcd.net/test-psytel.aac

And again (same as in prevoius posts) the ogg file:
http://www.kvcd.net/test-ogg-40kbps.ogg

And the...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-06-2004, 12:32 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Why the hell dir Nero downsample :?: :x ...

Why the hell dir Nero downsample :?: :x
There's NO option to do that :!:
I'm going to encode the AAC sample with FAAC and with PsyTel encoders.

Stay tunned ...

-kwag
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-05-2004, 10:47 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Unless I did something wrong, but I think I...

Unless I did something wrong, but I think I didn't :!:
It's plain and simple thing.
I just went to Nero, clicked on Extras/File Encoding/Add file and then selected the output file format to be...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-05-2004, 05:15 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
AAC Low Bitrate Test

I really don't know what weed those who did the test (AAC) at Hydrogen audio were smoking, but my results are EXTREMELY different :!:

I can't encode at 32Kbps with Ogg, because the command line...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-04-2004, 11:28 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
How about some 30 second WAV cuts jorel :?: ...

How about some 30 second WAV cuts jorel :?:
The ones with "strings" and high frequencies are the best to test, because on low frequencies, just about all Codecs do a good job. It's on the high...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-04-2004, 01:47 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Here's another site with more comparisons. The...

Here's another site with more comparisons.
The uncompressed test file is VERY complex in frequency spectrum, so it's a good source for encodings: http://www.xciv.org/~meta/audio-shootout/

-kwag
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-04-2004, 10:05 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Hi muaddib, Great tests :D I'll do some...

Hi muaddib,

Great tests :D
I'll do some more testing on more mixed music material.
I do think that low bitrate Oggs reproduces higher frequencies much better than MP3s.
But as you say, maybe...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-03-2004, 08:46 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Hi guys :D I had to do my own exhaustive...

Hi guys :D

I had to do my own exhaustive test, instead of taking someone elses word for it.
So here it is,
I cut a 30 second WAV, extracted from a very complex musical CD.

Here are the files,...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-03-2004, 06:02 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Where the hell you get that jorel :lol: Ok,...

Where the hell you get that jorel :lol:

Ok, here's the real test, comparing original WAV file to a 45Kbps Ogg.

WAV: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/listen/Marc_Nelson_14_minus_one.wav
Ogg:...
Forum: Audio Conversion 09-03-2004, 01:26 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 8,046
Posted By kwag
Hi muaddib, Try Ogg with -q 0 (~64Kbps), and...

Hi muaddib,

Try Ogg with -q 0 (~64Kbps), and let me know if you can hear a difference from a WAV to the Ogg ;)
Edit: Make sure you encode with oggenc.exe version 1.0.1 :!:

-kwag
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