Best CQ Settings for Encoding Star Wars Trilogy?

Paul0889 · #1 01-30-2003, 10:48 PM

what were yourr cq settings for attack of the clones?

kwag · #2 01-30-2003, 10:55 PM

I believe the CQ was 78. Using SpaceDust() and TemporalCleaner()

Edit: Those were my latest tests. The sample posted was using FaeryDust and C3D. If I recall correctly

-kwag

Paul0889 · #3 01-30-2003, 10:57 PM

i don't get it. i've used the file size prediction and the same script on a 90 min. movie called empire records. all i can get is a loq cq of 54, which looks very blocky, and nothing above that.

kwag · #4 01-30-2003, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul0889

i don't get it. i've used the file size prediction and the same script on a 90 min. movie called empire records. all i can get is a loq cq of 54, which looks very blocky, and nothing above that.

Here's my latest script for that movie:

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\fluxsmooth.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\GripFit_preview.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\blockbuster.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\legalclip.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\sampler.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\vobsub.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\convolution3d.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\dustv5.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\temporalcleanerold.dll")

Mpeg2Source("K:\ATTACK_OF_THE_CLONES_F1\VIDEO_TS\clones.d2v")
LegalClip() 
GripCrop( source_anamorphic=False, width=528, height=480, overscan=2 ) 
GripSize() 
SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()
GripBorders() 
LegalClip() 

Sampler(length=24) 
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

Here's a little clip, just encoded with the script above, using CQ=78: http://www.kvcd.net/samples/attack-short-cq78.mpg

nicksteel · #5 02-01-2003, 06:36 AM

downloaded decomb.dll

get message that decomb.dll not Avisynth 1.0 plugin

what version of Avisynth should I be using?

kwag · #6 02-01-2003, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicksteel

what version of Avisynth should I be using?

2.07
http://www.sf.net/projects/avisynth2

-kwag

nicksteel · #7 02-01-2003, 08:40 AM

I've tried this script, as well as many on the site with the same results: gray speckles and poor quality ( looks like when you try to display a high res jpg on a low res monitor). All the samples I've downloaded from the site (like attack.mpg) and burned for KVCDx3 528x480 work fine on my DVD player. If I use only TMPGEnc with force film output from DVD2AVI with mpg out and no changes to template, I get a clear copy.

I downloaded decomb.dll, but get TMPGEnc message saying not a AVISYNTH 1.0 dll. So I change to decomblegacy.dll and it runs with same poor quality. I use:

DVDdecrypter
DVD2AVI v1.76
Headac3he v0.23a
TMPGEnc v2.510
bbMPEG v1.24 beta 13
with latest Sansgrip dll's

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul0889

i don't get it. i've used the file size prediction and the same script on a 90 min. movie called empire records. all i can get is a loq cq of 54, which looks very blocky, and nothing above that.

Here's my latest script for that movie:

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\fluxsmooth.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\GripFit_preview.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\blockbuster.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\legalclip.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\sampler.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\vobsub.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\convolution3d.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\dustv5.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\temporalcleanerold.dll")

Mpeg2Source("K:\ATTACK_OF_THE_CLONES_F1\VIDEO_TS\clones.d2v")
LegalClip() 
GripCrop( source_anamorphic=False, width=528, height=480, overscan=2 ) 
GripSize() 
SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()
GripBorders() 
LegalClip() 

Sampler(length=24) 
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

Here's a little clip, just encoded with the script above, using CQ=78: http://www.kvcd.net/samples/attack-short-cq78.mpg

All my tries have the same speckled, poor quality results, so I must have a very basic problem. The films look ok on my monitor, lousy on my CyberHome500 DVD if I use avs files rather than direct TMPGEnc encoding.

Really need some help.

kwag · #8 02-01-2003, 09:48 AM

Hi nicksteel,

Get a newer version of mpeg2dec.dll
You can get one by downloading DVD2SVCD or acp here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2021
It's included in the package.

-kwag

nicksteel · #9 02-01-2003, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

Hi nicksteel,

Get a newer version of mpeg2dec.dll
You can get one by downloading DVD2SVCD or acp here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2021
It's included in the package.

-kwag

Downloaded setup_acp.exe. Copied MPEG2DEC.dll and MPEG2DEC2.dll to my video utilities folder. Which one to use?

Both give "Washed out image". I'm using KVCDx3mpeg1 with CQ78.

Kwag, could I email you a jpg of one frame from preview in TMPGEnc or is there some way to embed one in a message? After weeks of trying, I'm more confused than ever.

kwag · #10 02-01-2003, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicksteel

Kwag, could I email you a jpg of one frame from preview in TMPGEnc or is there some way to embed one in a message? After weeks of trying, I'm more confused than ever.[/color]

Encode a small sample and open it up with Vdub. Then do a copy to clipboard of a frame, paste it on Windows paint, and save it as .jpg. Then E-Mail me that at [ kwag at kvcd dot net ]

-kwag

nicksteel · #11 02-02-2003, 07:17 AM

Thanx. Emailed you one frame.

kwag · #12 02-02-2003, 10:19 AM

Didn't get it nicksteel

-kwag

nicksteel · #13 02-02-2003, 10:46 AM

just sent it again

nicksteel · #14 02-03-2003, 08:37 AM

Downloaded MPEG2DEC3.DLL.

No change, so I need more advice. Processing solely in TMPGEnc with the KVCDx3 template continues to give excellent output.

Does any particular version of AviSynth have to be present? All my other software is supposedly the same as yours.