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08-12-2005, 04:12 AM
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The next version (v2) of FairUse Wizard (a GPL'd standalone DVD backup tool) will be able to encode by using ffVFW.

Check it out !!!
FairUse Wizard 2 - Release Candidate 2 3ad @ Afonic's forum
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Thanks for the info, I never heard of this tool before. I shall do some research on it.
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No need to make so much noise about that !
(at least, no need to double post...)

I t is not because a new tool use ffvfw that this last one will become a decent encoder. And it is definitely not.

Note: FU is GPL ? Since when ? I never saw any sources from it. do you have ?
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08-12-2005, 08:50 AM
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Note: FU is GPL ? Since when ? I never saw any sources from it. do you have ?
That is a very good point Phil.

Also I take it this is a DVD to XviD/DivX. If so then for me it is no good besides I would use Gordian Knot (and the Auto) or avi.NET both produce excellent quality, I would test out this tool but I really don't do DVD to DivX conversions anymore since I heard about KVCD and also since I bought my DVD burner.

I may run some tests though to see what the quality is like with this tool.
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08-12-2005, 09:13 AM
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Also I take it this is a DVD to XviD/DivX. If so then for me it is no good besides I would use Gordian Knot (and the Auto) or avi.NET both produce excellent quality, I would test out this tool but I really don't do DVD to DivX conversions anymore since I heard about KVCD and also since I bought my DVD burner.
As said in the other thread (that is why a double post is a bad isdea ), the tool now opens to new codecs, including On2 VP7 and ffvfw. So it is no more a Divx/Xvid only.
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Note: FU is GPL ? Since when ? I never saw any sources from it. do you have ?
Imho, GPL doesnt force the programmer to offer a downloadlink beside the regular binary download. The sources also can be offered via mail when people ask for it.
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Imho, GPL doesnt force the programmer to offer a downloadlink beside the regular binary download. The sources also can be offered via mail when people ask for it.
Just change a little my sentence then : I never saw anyone talking about FU sources. Either peole never seen them, or no-one is interrested in what is behind the ripping format used for instance.
Because in case you don't know, FU use it's own ripp format. And this is very painfull when you have to ripp it once on your HD because of ArCOS protection (for instance).
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08-13-2005, 02:15 AM
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Err... source code here (v1.2)

(really small, but it's on 'download' page)

Sorry for "double" post, but the main one is this.

It would be great to let FU backup DVD to (K)VCD/DVD...
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So it is no more a Divx/Xvid only.
I guess they finally saw the light

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It would be great to let FU backup DVD to (K)VCD/DVD...
Just patch it with the Notch matrix

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Just patch it with the Notch matrix

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Do you think this will work then Karl?

This sounds interesting if it could be done then I wouldn't mind experimenting with it.
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08-13-2005, 04:47 AM
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Just patch it with the Notch matrix
Err.. FU can only outputs to AVI, OGM and MKV.

I think it needs an hack...
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Hmm. I wonder if it could be hacked then?
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08-13-2005, 06:07 AM
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Err.. FU can only outputs to AVI, OGM and MKV.
That's what I suspected

There is no "important news" for us at all then, and I suggest to close or even remove that thread.
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There is no "important news" for us at all.
Agree.

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then, and I suggest to close or even remove that thread.
Maybe we must to be not so drastic.
DVD>XVID/DIVX/OGM/MKV>DVD is a bad option, but not DVD>XVID/DIVX/OGM/MKV
Lastly DivX 6 does support chapters also, isn't it?
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That's what I suspected

There is no "important news" for us at all then
Agreed also, we are here after all to learn of ways to make KVCD either manually or by various tools.

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and I suggest to close or even remove that thread.
This may be a bit drastic, as if its meant to be a DVD to XVID/DIVX/OGM/MKV tool then I can't see how any of the 'warez kiddies' would go to the trouble of ripping a DVD then converting it to XVID/DIVX and then to KVCD.

It is just another tool for backing up legit owned DVD's. Of course any tool that does this can be abused by the not so genuine users out there.
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08-13-2005, 08:20 AM
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That's what I suspected
So ? I really can't understand this kind of approach.
Is not the sources moddable ?

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There is no "important news" for us at all then, and I suggest to close or even remove that thread.
... can you be a bit more constructive ?
FU uses VirualDubMod as engine and, as said, is GPL.
The "important news" (for ffdshow users... if you aren't why are you posting here ?) is that FU is the 1st DVD2'anyffvfwcodec' open source standalone backup tool.

I strongly belive that IS important

And yes, i wanna see it grow better and better (for example by supporting MPG output). This is a news/promoting campign 3ad, of course, but could benefit the whole community (due to open source nature).
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08-13-2005, 11:22 AM
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The "important news" (for ffdshow users... if you aren't why are you posting here ?)
I am KVCD/KDVD maker. If you are not, why are you posting here ?
This is a kvcd/kdvd site with a subforum talking about ffvfw, isn't it ? Not a general speaking about ffvfw.

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is that FU is the 1st DVD2'anyffvfwcodec' open source standalone backup tool. I strongly belive that IS important
That is a big news right, but there is nothing to do with the toppic of the site. That's all I wanted to say. BTW I didn't think that the first one (and so, the only one).

But you don't go until the end of my previous post : this is not because FU use ffvfw that this make ffvfw a good MPEG encoder.
Modding FU to produce mpg insteed ov avi/mkv won't enhance that.

Note: I forgot to thanks you for the sources.
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08-13-2005, 01:14 PM
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I am KVCD/KDVD maker. If you are not, why are you posting here ?
I like KVCDs too, but i found very boring to make them in 'sandard' method (rip, dgindex, avisynth, tmpeg, etc, etc...)
FU could do the job in few clicks (and is open source).
So why not inviting KVCD/DVD fan/supporters/developers to take a look at a so interesting application ? Where's my mistake ?

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This is a kvcd/kdvd site with a subforum talking about ffvfw, isn't it ? Not a general speaking about ffvfw.
...due to ffvfw MPEG1&2 encoding ability, i suppose...

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That is a big news right, but there is nothing to do with the toppic of the site. That's all I wanted to say.
I understand but i disagree.

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BTW I didn't think that the first one (and so, the only one).
Well, akaik FU is the ONLY open source backup tool that can encode directly from DVD. And now can encode by ffvfw.
If you know another one, please post the link just right now.

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But you don't go until the end of my previous post : this is not because FU use ffvfw that this make ffvfw a good MPEG encoder.
Wanna remember you that ffvfw is open source, so it can benefit from any other open source encoder.

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Modding FU to produce mpg insteed ov avi/mkv won't enhance that.
Do you mean that this forum section is useless ?

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Note: I forgot to thanks you for the sources.
Not at all. Sharing knowledge is my religion
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08-13-2005, 01:54 PM
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I am KVCD/KDVD maker. If you are not, why are you posting here ?
I like KVCDs too, but i found very boring to make them in 'sandard' method (rip, dgindex, avisynth, tmpeg, etc, etc...)
FU could do the job in few clicks (and is open source).
So why not inviting KVCD/DVD fan/supporters/developers to take a look at a so interesting application ? Where's my mistake ?
This is an interesting idea.

Maybe it could be developed to produce KVCD also.
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