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10-21-2002, 03:41 PM
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Kwag,

I still want to tackle this problem only because the little ones really love this movie.

My goal is to have a VCD 2.0 with the full Disney's Tarzan with best video and sound at 29.97 fps. Should be possible regardless even if the DVD doesn't do VCD@23.976.

DVD2AV1 displays

Aspect Ratio..........16:9
Frame Rate...........23.976
Video Type...........Film 99%
Frame Type..........Progressive


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First method:
Force film in DVD2AVI. View in TMPGenc with KVCDx Plus 352X480 with 3:2 pulldown. If I understand about the 3:2 pulldown, it shows on my TV as 29.97 at the quality of 23.97 non-interlaced.

Problem: On playback in PowerDVD, wherever there is motion, I see interlacing. I don't know where to go from here.
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Second Method:
Turn off force film in DVD2AVI. View in TMPGenc wih same template. Interlacing is present of course.

Problem: I can't get ITVC in TMPGenc to work. I 've also tried using decomb filters or maybe I'm doing them wrong. Help! I've fallen and I can't get up!
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Now, I know I am doing something wrong but I'm only a one-man army at home doing this as a hobby so I turn to you guys for guidance. I can't find anyone who is doing VCD/SVCD. Everyone I know says they get theirs from people who get them from other people. I don't have anyone in the immediate area to just help me out. Funny, thing though. Everyone wants to be interested in my findings so that I would end up as the support guy that everyone would turn if they decide to do it for themselves.

Anyway, the story of my DVD copy adventures...every forward step I take, I take two steps back.
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@2COOL,

You don't deinterlace it because it's not interlaced. If DVD2AVI says frame type- interlaced then you need to deinterlace it if you're using any of the KVCD templates (but not the SKVCD or KDVD because they're mpeg-2).

Also since your player doesn't support 23.97 fps then you need to uncheck force film in DVD2AVI and encode at 29.97 in TMPGEnc. I don't see the reason for 29.97 -> 23.97 (force film) then -> 29.97 again??

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10-21-2002, 06:02 PM
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I though I did this before but hey I'll start again.

Turn force film off and get Tarzan.dvs@29.97. Load into TMPenc, choose template, and change framerate to 29.97. Do a test m1v and view in PowerDVD. Okkaayy...that's care of that problem.

Now I really want to test if this will fit on 1 cd.

So in fitCD...
1. open source Tarzan.d2v
2. set destination to VCD
3. file size prediction activated
4. save as Tarzan.avs

Here's where I a brick wall pops up out of nowhere in the middle of the road. I have already stated this in a previous post and it's always happening. If I open Tarzan.avs in TMPGenc, I immediately get the blue screen of death. If I open just Tarzan.dv2, no problem.

Every avs file I inputted in TMPGenc using a 23.976 d2v source were flawless. Every d2v I have inputted in TMPGenc, whether 23.976 or 29.97, were flawless. But I can't get an avs with a 29.97 source to work. Hmmmmm...

Any inputs anyone?
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10-21-2002, 06:11 PM
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Hey 2COOL,

2COOL wrote:
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Here's where I a brick wall pops up out of nowhere in the middle of the road. I have already stated this in a previous post and it's always happening. If I open Tarzan.avs in TMPGenc, I immediately get the blue screen of death. If I open just Tarzan.dv2, no problem.
You need to get the latest version of MPEG2DEC and replace what you
have: When d2v works, but avs gives you the blue/green screen then
it's usually mpeg2dec.dll.

-black prince
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10-21-2002, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by black prince

You need to get the latest version of MPEG2DEC and replace what you
have: When d2v works, but avs gives you the blue/green screen then
it's usually mpeg2dec.dll.
I have already downloaded the dll many a times. Perhaps, I still have a corrupted one. Before, I do that, I did get that 29.97 source avs to work.

All my previous avs scripts were set to 1 cd. If I set that to 2 or more, TMPGenc can open it up. Here's the next problem. All my M1vs have ghosting. What's up with that

I'll try to get another mpeg2dec.dll. By the way, where did you get yours?
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Started from the real square one...

I decided to overhaul all the programs and the shtuff that goes with them.

TMPGenc Plus 2.58
DVD2AV1 1.76
fitCD 1.0.5
AVIsynth 2
mpeg2dec.dll

Welllll? .....I can open avs's @ 29.97 source now. I hope it holds. Personally, I don't think it was my mpeg2dec.dll but I do have different one now. Can't tell, my previous and new were 180kb. I also did another non-force Tarzan.d2v. I'm going to bet that I had a corrupted d2v.

I still have the green displays in TMPGenc though. My highest priority VFAPI Plug-ins are my Avisynth/VirtualDub script reader v0.1 and below that is my DVD2AVI Project File Reader 1.76+.

I've taken a big step forward and so far so good!
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