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Hi Guys i wanted to Convert my PAL DVD 'Pearl Harbour' and convert it to a 1CD KVCD format.

I read vmesquita excellent guide on using CCE to do the encoding but i heard it is only good for Mpeg2 encodes and not so good at Mpeg1 encodes.

I hear CCE is quicker than TMPGEncoder but is only good for Mpeg2?

My DVD is is 720 x 576 what is be better to just do a KVCD @ 352 x 288 or a SKVCD at a suitable resolution bearing in mind i want a good quality 1CD conversion?.

If i did do a SKVCD what would be the best res to use and how does one go about making suitable resolutions from their source DVD's is there a formula you can use when downsizing res?

PS: Also when i load my movie in MovieStacker the Anamorphic butoon is automatically ticked should i leave it ticked or untick it? It is widescreen


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Pearl Harbor is too long and too "action movie" for putting it on a single CD ! You can try with 352*288 but the CQ will be very low, I fear.

And for the anamorphic, fir sure let it checked ! Widescreen and anamorphic have the same meaning.
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Thanks for your reply Dialhot i just checked the film time in Tok and looked at the Log Tab and found out that the film is some 2 hours and 55 minutes so i guess a 1CD KVCD is very unlikely maybe i should opt for a 2CD Rip instead.

If say i had a 90 Min film what it still be best to do a KVCD or SKVCD?

on the CCE front am i right in saying even the full version of this prog is better suited to Mpeg2 or can it do both? If it can do both will the trial version do Mpeg1 and Mpeg2 also?

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Hi Zyphon,

a time ago I wanted to push the limits and compressed "Pearl Harbor" @ 352x288 / 112kbit Audio to fit on one CD-R80.
I recommend too, not to waste your time by doing this in case of this movie. It fits, ok, but as already said ... to much action lets the CQ falling down extremely at this movie length and contents.
And a very low CQ at 352x288 (which you will obtain in this case, even when using avisynth) is a visual "disaster".
I ended up with 480x576 fitting two CD-R80s.. and quality was ok.

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If say i had a 90 Min film what it still be best to do a KVCD or SKVCD?
90mins is not much, so I would start to do a prediction on 480x576,
BUT .... as we know CQ doesn't only depend on a streams lenght but also on its "contents"! Even when using MA.
Cause, ... its not only the movement which lets the CQ fall down, its also the high frequent changing of bright and dark parts in a scene.
Just for testing .... even on a romantic movie (no action... well it depends ) ... encode your movie, open it using Bitrateviewer.
And maybe in a scene there is a closeup on a Watersurface touched by a very lot of raindrops including sunlight reflections .... you'll see the bitrate will rise up to the sky
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Hi Zyphon,

a time ago I wanted to push the limits and compressed "Pearl Harbor" @ 352x288 / 112kbit Audio to fit on one CD-R80.
I recommend too, not to waste your time by doing this in case of this movie. It fits, ok, but as already said ... to much action lets the CQ falling down extremely at this movie length and contents.
And a very low CQ at 352x288 (which you will obtain in this case, even when using avisynth) is a visual "disaster".
I ended up with 480x576 fitting two CD-R80s.. and quality was ok.
Thanks for your help and advice incredible i really appreciate it.

To be honest i didnt realise its such a long film and i even watched it again last night i guess time flies when you are glued to a movie, it wasnt until Dialhot pointed it out to me and i saw the movie length in Tok that i thought a 1 80Min CD was unrealistic considering especially that this is an action movie as well.

I get confused (Even when using ToK) about SKVCD res. Do i use GripCrop value of 480 x 480 I just dont know.

For example im going convert another of my DVD movies this time 28 Days which is approx 99 mins long.

When i read the back of the box it said that the ratio was 1:1.85. now how would i go about resizing the res so that its in the right proportions and dont end up with people with egg heads?

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Just for testing .... even on a romantic movie (no action... well it depends ) ... encode your movie, open it using Bitrateviewer.
And maybe in a scene there is a closeup on a Watersurface touched by a very lot of raindrops including sunlight reflections .... you'll see the bitrate will rise up to the sky
Do u know where i can download a free bitrate viewer so that i can check to see what my bitrate is doing?
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