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08-01-2002, 02:50 AM
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I been trying to do domestic disturbance at 740x480 dvd rip. I have tried basiclly every setting posible and I still can not get this movie to quit jumping around and audio being insync. I haven't seen a movie this hard to do yet. I used smart ripper dvd2avi then tmpgenc (with almost every setting there is and I can not get it to stop jumping. I use a cdrw to burn practice runs onto, and was wondering maybe since I can only burn at 4X speed, plus being on a cdrw, if maybe that may cause this problem. What ya think? I can burn onto cdrw and have no problems, but I have never tried doing a 740x480 before on a cdrw and maybe this is where I am having problems at? Like I said, I have tried about every setting and even tried at 480x480 and 352x240 and still no luck! I have even tried the standard templates that come with tmpgenc for dvd and svcd and vcd! And still no luck. I have been messing with this for three days now and I am about to give up on this movie. Have you tried doing this movie yet? So the main question is, do you know if 4x speed is maybe too slow for 740x480? Maybe you can try and burn onto a cdrw at 4x speed at 740x480 res. and let me know if maybe it gives you any grief. Also, is 8x speed on a cdr a decent speed to burn at? Or do you feel that may even be too slow for dvd players to playback from a 720x480 res movie?
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08-01-2002, 10:12 AM
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Hi ZeppelinFan,

Your CD-RW media could be the problem. It happens to me too, on some test clips I've done, where the CD-RW shows "sync blocks" and jumps and does all kinds of weird stuff. But this never happens when I burn to a CD-R. Also some other CD-RW brands work ok. For example, I've tried Imation CD-RW's, and they works pretty good. Then I tried a Verbatim brand, and it jumped all over the place!. So check your media.

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08-01-2002, 10:39 AM
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So the main question is, do you know if 4x speed is maybe too slow for 740x480? Maybe you can try and burn onto a cdrw at 4x speed at 740x480 res. and let me know if maybe it gives you any grief. Also, is 8x speed on a cdr a decent speed to burn at? Or do you feel that may even be too slow for dvd players to playback from a 720x480 res movie?
There is no "too slow speed" for burning a vcd. In fact, slower is better.
You can try burn your vcds at 8x, but some standalone dvd players will not like that burn speed, even if it plays ok at your computer...
I think that 4x is OK, but 2x is better. I do all my vcds at 2x, specially with CDRWs.
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08-04-2002, 05:27 AM
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Well, I found out that the cdrw wasn't the problem and neither was the 4x or 8x speeds, thats all fine. But what really semed weird was the i HAD to use the automatic vbr cq vbr setting to do domesatic disturbace. I have always used the cq setting on all my videos. But, to tell ya the truth this is my only second TRUE DVD rip. the rest of the movies was .avis from kazza that i downloaded. So I am sure I am running into new settings/problems. LOL
Also, the only way I could get that movie onto 1 cdr-80 was to either go with a 720x480 cq of 10 automatic vbr cq vbr , or what I ended up doing was encoding it at 352x240 at a automatic vbr cq vbr 80 cq. which it looked crisper and ran smoother then using the 720x480 cq of 10 automatic vbr cq vbr. This movie was really a very hard movie to do and I really still don't understand why it was. It isn't a long movie and it also isn't a very action packed movie as well. The begining of the movie is very hard to encode without it jumping around. And the only thing that actually worked was your kvcd plus template(modified some, so my player could use it). Any other setting used would not work at all. Picture would jump around. I never had this much problem before.

Just curious, how did you come up with that number setting of the gop of 5823? Just seems like a nuber just thrown in there..lol
Well, anyhow figured I would let you know that cdrws are usable and so is 4x and 8x speeds, so maybe you can put that into the faq section. Do you agree with what the other guy said about 2x is the better speed to burn at? My burner only goes up to 8x anyhow and 4x on cdrws. Now I have burnt at 24x at my brothers house and his dvd player played them fine. I never have gotten to try a cd burnt at those speeds here at home so I don't know what my dvd player can handle. I would think that a dvd player would be going at reallllllly fast speed to play a dvd movie. Is this right?
Well, thanx for everything, and take care.
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08-04-2002, 10:36 AM
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I used to only burn everything at 32x and there were about 4 movies that were deformed and had loud squeaks- this could have been a media problem but I always burn at 4x or 8x now and haven't seen this problem yet.

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Well, anyhow figured I would let you know that cdrws are usable and so is 4x and 8x speeds, so maybe you can put that into the faq section. Do you agree with what the other guy said about 2x is the better speed to burn at? My burner only goes up to 8x anyhow and 4x on cdrws. Now I have burnt at 24x at my brothers house and his dvd player played them fine. I never have gotten to try a cd burnt at those speeds here at home so I don't know what my dvd player can handle. I would think that a dvd player would be going at reallllllly fast speed to play a dvd movie. Is this right?
Well, thanx for everything, and take care.
Wel, "the other guy" should be me...
Hi ZeppelinFan, I'm Muaddib

Don't know if I misunderstood you, but just wanna say that the burn speed has no relation with the play speed!
And some DVDs, especially old ones like mine, don't like CDRs burned at high speeds. My tests show that my DVD limit is about 8x..12x, above that I have some problems like rendalunit described. So, just to make sure… I use 4x speed for burning my vcds.
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