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05-24-2004, 09:48 PM
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OK, I have been successful in the past with ripping a DVD and backing up a DVD. I have recently started down a new path with trying to create an SVCD or KVCD using DVD2SVCD.

I read in other forums about a plugin, DVD2KVCD, I think, that would make things happen with one click. My experience on the DVD side of things has taught me that the best resulats can usually be had by manual means. Or so I thought. I had played around with DVD2SVCD very little in the past since my focus was towards backing up a DVD on DVD media and as I understand it, DVD2SVCD's power is in the conversion and creation of DVD footage on CD type media (aka SVCD, KVCD etc).

That said, I am trying to convert a 125 minute DVD to KVCD and put it on one disk. I am using the latest proggy (v1.22 b1) and it always results in 2 image files instead of the desired 1. Obviously, this is due to some settings I am missing. In looking over several guides here and other places, I believe I have set everything proper. In the bitrate section I have set all to 795 Cd size, and a CQ of .94. loaded the KVCD template in the matrix section, output file type of SVCD (since no KVCD selection exists), and lkeft the remainder as defaults. Here is the SVCD info log:

GENERAL INFO
- Source: DVD (NTSC)
- Movie Offset: 1 sec
- CD Overlap seconds: Yes, 2 sec
- Startup delays: Video: 180 ms Audio 1: 180 msAudio 2: 180 ms
- Video format: NTSC
- Length: 02:01:46
- CD Images: 2

IMDB INFO:
Movie title:
User rating:
Directed by:
Writing credits:
Genre:
Tagline:
Plot outline:

VIDEO INFO:
- Encoder: TMPGEnc 2.59.47.155
- Rate Control Mode: Constant quality (CQ)
- Max. bitrate: 2530
- CQ Value 91.14
- Min. bitrate: 300
- Motion search prec.: Highest quality (very slow)
- Field order: No
- DC component prec.: 8 bits
- Output YUV as YCbCr: No
- Floating point DCT: Yes
- No motion search: True
- Soften block noise: No
- iDCT Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX
- NTSC Field Operation: Inverse Telecine, using Donald Grafts Decomb dll
- Deinterlace: None
- Pulldown: Yes, TMPGEnc internal
- Width: 352
- Height: 240
- Matrix:
Intra:
8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
16 19 22 26 27 29 34 37
19 22 26 27 29 34 37 38
22 26 27 31 36 37 38 40
26 27 29 36 39 38 40 48
27 29 34 37 38 40 48 58
29 34 37 38 40 48 58 69
34 37 38 40 48 58 69 79
Non-Intra:
16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30
18 20 22 24 26 28 30 32
20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34
22 24 26 30 32 32 34 36
24 26 28 32 34 34 36 38
26 28 30 32 34 36 38 40
28 30 32 34 36 38 42 42
30 32 34 36 38 40 42 44

AVISYNTH SCRIPT:
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg 2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\INVE RS~1\decomb.dll")
MPEG2Source("J:\MOVIE\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
BicubicResize(352,240,0.0,0.6)


AUDIO INFO:
- Audiostreams: 1
- Audio 1 Language:
- Audio 1 Bitrate: 192
- Audio 1 Sample freq: 48000
- Audio 1 Mode: Stereo
- Audio 1 Besweet: "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "J:\MOVIE\Extracted_audio_1.mpa" -output "J:\MOVIE\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "J:\MOVIE\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -ota( -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )

SUBTITLE INFO:
- Subtitlestreams: 0
- Type:
- Sub. 1 Language:
- Sub. 2 Language:
- Sub. 3 Language:
- Sub. 4 Language:

AUTHORING INFO:
- CD Image program: VCDXBuild
- Entrysvd: No

The 2 images I am getting are great! I only wish it was 1 image. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance...Al
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05-25-2004, 06:30 AM
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try the plugin m8

results are really excellent.

there are a number of filters included with plugin too that make encodes look even better.

and dvd2svcd can still be configured manually after you have set it up with dvd2kvcd plugin.

start dvd2kvcd plugin.

select desired output.

cd size/amount.

which filter/script to use.

whether to create cue/bin images or just mpeg.

dvd2svcd will start and NOW you can configure whatever you like from these basic settings.


my advice would be to do a rip with the plugin leaving everything on the default settings.....then do one which you configure and compare.

cheers
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05-25-2004, 07:09 AM
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In the bitrate section, you should also specify that you only want 1 CD instead of 2... Considering the duration of the movie you're trying to encode, maybe you should try 90 or 99 minutes CD...
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05-25-2004, 07:31 PM
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Thanks, I will give that plugin a go. Maybe that's the answer to all my issues. Thanks to the both of you for the advice, I will post my results when completed.

Regards...
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Well, I dl'd the plugin and the latest D2S and gave it a go last night on the test DVD I mentioned above. The first result was 2 cd's, but the quality was great. I changed the parameters in the bitrate section making everything 1 cd and 800mb. When I get home later, I hope to find the project on 1 cd with the same great quality. I will update you.

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05-29-2004, 08:36 PM
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Ok, since my last post, I have tried to encode a KVCD from a 1hr 45min DVD using the plugin for D2S. No joy. I tried several times and it seems that the problem is still the same. The first problem I had was to end up with 1 bin file. After following some instructions from those on this thread, it finally happened. However, the problem now is that the movie is getting cut off about 30min. I first ran the plugin with all defaults. then I ran the plugin with some of my tweaks (about 10 times atm), including changing to a 90min cd. I always end up with the same result! 1 cd with xlnt quality but, just too short. I have no idea what I am doing wrong. I would appreciate some help, please. here is my log:

WNASPI32.DLL 4.5.7.1008
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- 5/29/2004 7:42:47 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.2.2 build 1
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Initializing
blah blah blah
Initializing finished.

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- 5/29/2004 7:42:50 AM
- Free on drive J: 106151.09 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
blah blah blah
Ripping finished. Speed: 14312

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- 5/29/2004 7:47:45 AM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -OM=0 -EXIT -OF=[J:\movie3\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[J:\movie3\VTS_01_1.vob,J:\movie3\VTS_01_2.vob,J:\m ovie3\VTS_01_3.vob,J:\movie3\VTS_01_4.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Hybrid Film activated. IVTC will be applied and will slow down the entire process!
Framerate: 29970
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 5/29/2004 7:48:39 AM
- Free on drive J: 102054.55 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found MPA stream id: 0xC0
Filename: J:\movie3\Extracted_audio_1.mpa
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.


Encoding Audio. Filename: J:\movie3\Extracted_audio_1.mpa
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "J:\movie3\Extracted_audio_1.mpa" -output "J:\movie3\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "J:\movie3\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -ota( -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m d )
Audio conversion of J:\movie3\Extracted_audio_1.mpa finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 5/29/2004 7:59:45 AM
- Free on drive J: 101716.21 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultLastCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 5/29/2004 7:59:56 AM
- Free on drive J: 101714.86 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding J:\movie3\TitlePicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"H:\MY PROGRAMS\tmpgenc\TMPGEnc.exe" "J:\movie3\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding J:\movie3\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"H:\MY PROGRAMS\tmpgenc\TMPGEnc.exe" "J:\movie3\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding J:\movie3\LastCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"H:\MY PROGRAMS\tmpgenc\TMPGEnc.exe" "J:\movie3\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip J:\movie3\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"H:\MY PROGRAMS\tmpgenc\TMPGEnc.exe" "J:\movie3\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip J:\movie3\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
Wanted: 756636924 (738903kb)
Predicted: 794961212 (776329kb) Using CQ Value: 80.00
Calculated next CQ Value: 77.73
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"H:\MY PROGRAMS\tmpgenc\TMPGEnc.exe" "J:\movie3\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip J:\movie3\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
Wanted: 756636924 (738903kb)
Predicted: 733470817 (716280kb) Using CQ Value: 77.73
Calculated next CQ Value: 78.86
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"H:\MY PROGRAMS\tmpgenc\TMPGEnc.exe" "J:\movie3\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip J:\movie3\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
Wanted: 756636924 (738903kb)
Predicted: 762519150 (744648kb) Using CQ Value: 78.86
Calculated final CQ Value: 78.51
- Encoding J:\movie3\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 937122788
AudioSectors: 166007968
VideoPAPO: 11944980
ScanOffsetBytes: 39236
SeqAligningBytes: 2493676
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 756636923.89
Seconds: 6824.65
CalcMPEGStream: 756636923.89
Frames: 163484
CDSize: 900.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 895.00
Using CQ Value: 78.51
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg 2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\INVE RS~1\decomb.dll")
MPEG2Source("J:\movie3\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
nf=0
GripCrop(352, 480+0+0, overscan=1, source_anamorphic=true, dest_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BiCubicResize")
Undot()
Asharp(1, 4)
STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5)
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))
SwitchThreshold = (Width<=352) ? 4 : (Width<=480) ? 3 : 2
ScriptClip("nf = round(YDifferenceToNext())"+chr(13)+ "((nf >= SwitchThreshold) && (nf < 30)) ? unfilter(-(fmin(nf*2,100)),-(fmin(nf*2,100))) : TemporalCleaner(6+nf,11+nf) ")
GripBorders()
function fmin(int f1, int f2) { return (f1<f2) ? f1 : f2 }
function ConvertToYUY2(clip c){ return isYV12(c) ? c : convertToYV12(c) }
ConvertToRGB24()
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"H:\MY PROGRAMS\tmpgenc\TMPGEnc.exe" "J:\movie3\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 5/29/2004 11:35:37 AM
- Free on drive J: 100964.83 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "J:\movie3\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 5/29/2004 11:35:41 AM
- Free on drive J: 100964.69 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "J:\movie3\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 5/29/2004 11:35:45 AM
- Free on drive J: 100964.57 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "J:\movie3\LastCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 5/29/2004 11:35:49 AM
- Free on drive J: 100964.44 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 1
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 1 seconds
Cut point: 895 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "J:\movie3\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 5/29/2004 11:38:45 AM
- Free on drive J: 100080.13 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: J:\movie3\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
6817.056 seconds J:\movie3\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 5/29/2004 11:39:04 AM
- Free on drive J: 100079.94 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 1

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="J:\movie3\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="J:\movie3\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "J:\movie3\VCDXBU~1.XML"
Image creation finished.

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- 5/29/2004 11:40:44 AM
- Free on drive J: 99183.05 mb
- Conversion done!
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Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Happy holidays!
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05-29-2004, 11:06 PM
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I have no idea what I am doing wrong
You are using DVD2SVCD.
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05-30-2004, 12:06 AM
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Well, I know that...lol.
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05-30-2004, 01:18 AM
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try changing back to 80 min cdr but set output size to 795mb and lower max bitrate a couple of hundred m8.

say to at least 1800-2000 will still give good results.
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Will do, thanks. Ran several tests last nite and started a new one this morning. I have been using the "lite" version up to last nite. Changed over to the 713kb version to see if that is any better solution. As soon as that is done, will use the suggested parameters in the "lite" version.

While writing this, my neighbor came over and "dumped" about 300 (I stopped counting at 200) screeners. While D2S is doing it's thing I am going through the boxes to see what I have inherited. WOW.

Looks like I will be busy for awhile. I hope to get this D2S thing sorted out so that I can use it on these tapes/DVD's. If not, I will need to go back to CCE and my regular methods for encoding these to DVD to get this info out there.

Thanks again, will post my results and progress soon. Happy holidays!
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05-30-2004, 10:38 AM
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my neighbor came over and "dumped" about 300 (I stopped counting at 200) screeners
Excuse me ? Screeners ?
I hope I won't see any mesage of you asking for help to turn them into KVCD.
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05-30-2004, 09:56 PM
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Well, I made those changes and still no joy. However, the encoded file did contain some additional footage. So, I guess I will just do the trial and error thing.

@Dialhot

I didn't know if I should mention that word as it might be one of the forbidden words to use. In any event, if I can't get the hang of this KVCD stuff, I obviously won't be encoding those clips in that format. I will just have to rely on what I do know like CCE, DVD2AVI and TMPGenc to encode those clips. I might just DVD them as well. Still working through cataloging them. Also, still working on this KVCD project as well.

Will keep all up to date. Thanks...Al
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Finally!!!!!

My first KVCD using lite 2.0, D2S as the prediction, KVCD template 352x240x288 lbr. The length of the DVD is 132min. Viewing resolution on a desktop and standalone player is xlnt.

Thanks to dialhot, kyuss, livlander and the kvcd board in general for all those tips.

Now, where did I put all those screeners
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