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06-13-2005, 08:50 AM
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Hi,

I just come from this poll :
http://www.cdfreaks.com/poll/26

and near half of the people voted for a manufacturer I don't even know.
Can someone tell me under which brand(s) they are sold ?
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06-13-2005, 11:57 AM
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TY is just about the best there is, that's very much true. You'll just have to watch out for the fake TY discs - when the price is very cheap, you can be sure it's a fake.

Verbatim is one brand which has TY's in some discs.

See here: http://www.os-mediatrade.de/ (they sell genuine TY's)
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06-13-2005, 12:07 PM
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TY is just about the best there is, that's very much true. You'll just have to watch out for the fake TY discs - when the price is very cheap, you can be sure it's a fake.

Verbatim is one brand which has TY's in some discs.

See here: http://www.os-mediatrade.de/ (they sell genuine TY's)
It's amazing that I never read about this manufacturer before.
Thanks Boulder.

Edit: I browse a couple of online site and they all write "These are authentic Taiyo Yuden (made in Japan, media code TYG02)"
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06-13-2005, 03:28 PM
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I've heard of this manufacturer and imho the genuine Disc's are the best. I use Disc's with their dye.
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06-13-2005, 03:41 PM
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For information, what can be considered (in europe) as a good price for such discs ?
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06-14-2005, 03:21 AM
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Taiyo Yuden is (was) also a distributor for TDK.

According to the IDs:
Yuden's
TTD (TDK)
MCC (Mitsubishi) like Verbatims
Ritek G04

do have a nice Quality.
But MCC did on the Verbatim DVD-R 8x a bad job. As the Dye is recognisably worse than on the 4x versions.

Normally here in germany the prices fo very good medias are about 17-24€ for a Cake Box containing 25pc.


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06-14-2005, 03:45 AM
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Here in the U.k the prices usually are:

Ritek DVD+R 8x, £9.99 for a tub of 50

Ritek DVD-R 4x, £6.99 fora tub of 50
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06-14-2005, 04:39 AM
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Ritek DVD+R 8x, £9.99 for a tub of 50
Ritek DVD-R 4x, £6.99 fora tub of 50
That's exactly what puzzles me !
Guenuine TY are sold near 0.8-1€/disc. That is more than £20 a 50pcs cakebox. So I wonder about the quality of these Ritek.

Do someone know a link where I can check which disc ID is a TY (guenuine or EOM) or not ?
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06-14-2005, 04:47 AM
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A good Online CD/DVD Media Distributor does mention those IDs on each Media product page. I would keep hands off from Distris which doesnt mention IDs.
Anyhow .... Fakes are not only Brand-Labeled, also Brand ID faked

This one is german BUT you can choose french blabla
http://www.dvdrohlinge24.com/catalog...hp/language/fr

And I found silver blanks Taiyo Yuden in 100pc. boxes for 68,73 € (0,69 € each): http://www.dvdrohlinge24.com/catalog...2A/language/fr

I think shipping is no issue?!

I also have no Problems using RITEK G04 as I always no exceed 4x speed when burning using my Pioneer Burner:
http://www.dvdrohlinge24.com/catalog...01/language/fr
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06-14-2005, 05:31 AM
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This one is german BUT you can choose french blabla
http://www.dvdrohlinge24.com/catalog...hp/language/fr
I bought my last disc from there
But you surely did a mistake then has you said Ritek G04 are TY but you can find them on dvdrohlinge for 17.5€ / 50pcs
http://www.dvdrohlinge24.com/catalog...roducts_id/701

BTW, I saw last week discs with a blue dye (not the commun purple or deep purple). Does anyone tried some like that ?
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06-14-2005, 06:30 AM
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I wouldn't touch RiDiscs, they are Grade B in Ritek's books.
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06-14-2005, 06:42 AM
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I meant that I never had Problems with the Manufacturer Ritek G04 (the ID, like Taiyo Yuden).

17,50€ for 50pcs is very cheap.
EDIT: Boulder just mentioned why

People do often report bad issues on cheaper DVD Medias AFTER! they labeled their disks. Thats something I would never do anymore, exept direct printing on the printable surface.
Till spring last year I did label my disks so they look like a very good safe backup. And then the experiences:

- Labeled using inkjetprinted labels, directly putted after outgoing of the inkjetprinter
= after 2 Days ca. 80% SAP read failures!!!

- Labeled using inkjetprinted labels, waiting 1 Day after prinitng so the lables are "desert" dry
= after ca. 5 Days ca. 60% SAP read failures!!!

- Labeled using Colorlasercopier Labels, dry printed by a CANON CLC 1130
= after ca. 2 Months ca. 40% SAP read failures!!!

- NO labeling (or printing directly on the printing surface)
= NO problems at all.

So these paper-Labels seem to arch those Medias so the Laser can't focus the right points on the Media anymore.

I did begin to put my old backups into warm water incl. a bit of dish liquid *and after 1 Day the old paper label did "fall" off
After drying and cleaning the Media surfaces I testet them again in the SAP and ..... probems solved!
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06-14-2005, 11:11 AM
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Also any "printable" discs don't appear to be as good as non-printable ones. This is not just my opinion but many others' as well.
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Quote:
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Also any "printable" discs don't appear to be as good as non-printable ones. This is not just my opinion but many others' as well.
I agree with you on that one, I have found this to be true also.
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Good to know, .... I have about 10surfaceprinted ones at home. Thats due I tried one of these Media direct printing devices .... but I wasnt shure if I gonna buy one.
Till that time all my backups are just burned on non-printable Medias.
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