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As per above:
Q: Is is noticeably different?
A: No, not overly noticeable, especially when capturing lossless in VirtualDub.

Yes, the AIW USB does work with laptops. But laptops of that era can be squirrelly devices. I have a top-of-the-line HP (bought as refurb) that doesn't always want to cooperate with it, and another mid-grade no-name that has no issues. With capture, desktops are always better. The HP issue may be related to it being the original OS install, and it's had 13 years of install/uninstall/update/upgrade. The no-name was wiped some years ago, never used for anything but video and testing USB capture cards in XP.

AIW will always be better quality than ATI 600 USB, but it's not a night-and-day difference.
- The major AIW difference is color/contrast/etc is slightly more accurate, audio is perfect as-is (and with audio preview if set correctly), and then you have ATI MMC for MPEG capturing.
- ATI 600 USB values can be slightly off system to system (all eMPIA-bridge cards seemingly are), simply tweaked with VirtualDub proc amp. Audio needs a quick registry hack/addition to not be too loud (distort). And of course ATI CMC is craptastic (but workable, though without dropped frames counter), and CMC is NTSC only.

Win10 is a lousy OS for capture, as updates seem to break stuff every 6 months. As has been pointed out, Win10 doen't really get mere "updates" as much as it's actually a new OS pushed out twice per year. So it can majorly break things. If your Win10 OS is always updated, always online, then you may suddenly find yourself unable to capture. Workarounds have generally been found, sometimes after a few months, but it's no guarantee that it will always be the case. With Win10, nothing is guaranteed.

If you're not sure what to get, the ATI 600 USB will be a safer choice. And that's all I have available right now anyway.
When you say AIW do you mean the USB variant or the AGP card? As I no longer have my Pentium 4 Dell Dimension, I'd probably have to go with the USB one anyway.
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USB AIW variant, which is somewhat rare anyway (as is the PCI AIW).
For your exact needs, I think the 600 USB is a wise choice.

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where is the best place to get the usb version and shipped to the united kingdom please
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where is the best place to get the usb version and shipped to the united kingdom please
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I will buy you this ATI Tv Wonder 600 usb 2.0 hijacking device if you still have it. Can you give me a PayPal payment address?

The former capture device didn't work for me for a long time that I bought from you so you can give me a discount? I mean nothing bad.
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I have a couple cards again, for whoever is looking. PM me.

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I have a couple cards again, for whoever is looking. PM me.


As you may already I have bought Ati All-In-Wonder capture card 7500agb the United States! I have received it this week, and now I also have parts of the digitization of the computer with a motherboard agb Alan today to build a computer. Sanlyn helped me find a new capture card
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As you may already I have bought Ati All-In-Wonder capture card 7500agb the United States! I have received it this week, and now I also have parts of the digitization of the computer with a motherboard agb Alan today to build a computer. Sanlyn helped me find a new capture card
I'm glad to read that you're getting your capture setup put together.

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I'm not sure this is how to order. Please redirect if I'm in the wrong place.
Do you have an ATI 600 USB I can purchase?
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I'm not sure this is how to order. Please redirect if I'm in the wrong place.
Do you have an ATI 600 USB I can purchase?
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Curious how long a typical transaction can take for the ATI USB 600 cards? I realize you get swamped.
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Curious how long a typical transaction can take for the ATI USB 600 cards? I realize you get swamped.
I sometimes get backed up by a couple of weeks, but I'm shipping a pile of stuff today and again Monday. So if you're expecting something from me, it's in there.

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Do you have any AIW cards still available? I've been lurking for a while and am about to pull the trigger on an AG-1980 from Grant per this forum's recommendations. I'm currently looking into dual booting my system with XP specifically to take advantage of the AIW vs. the 600 card.

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Do you have any AIW cards still available?
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ATI AIW USB is working on Windows 10 system ?
If not, what systems does it work on ?
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ATI AIW USB is working on Windows 10 system ?
If not, what systems does it work on ?
It's my understanding the AIW model only works on XP, you would need one of the 600 models to work on Windows 10. Even then, 10 is not as recommended as Windows 7.
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ATI AIW USB is working on Windows 10 system ?
If not, what systems does it work on ?
AIW requires XP. All models: USB, PCI, AGP, PCIe.

(There actually were some very hackish methods to force AIW on 32-bit Vista/7, but it had stability issues, and would often forget itself after reboots. VirtualDub would work, MMC was hit-or-miss. I did it, then jwillis did it, documented on the forums. I'd not try it.)

ATI 600 USB works best in XP/Vista/7, but it's possible with 8/10. The problem with 8/10 is that updates can screw up capturing. That issue extends to all USB capture cards, not just the ATI. Blame MS, blame GDPR. Video capturing is just not respected by modern OS, it's a legacy task best left to legacy OS.

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AIW requires XP. All models: USB, PCI, AGP, PCIe.
Does it make a difference for the image quality which type of device(USB, PCI, AGP, PCIe) - for example ATI 600 USB - is used to capture the image(from VHS to digital file) ?
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The bus type (AGP, PCI, USB, PCIe) really doesn't effect the image quality, since by they time the data gets to the bus its digital. What does matter is the choice of the device, and whether you are capturing Uncompressed or Compressed. The bus type can't over come short comings of the video capture device while its handling the analog signal.

So only use video capture devices (no matter which bus type) that are recommended. If they are not recommended, there is either a lack of information (not good) or its probably known to be a bad video capture device (not good).

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