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Available:
- ATI AIW USB, $95 - only 1 left!
- ATI 600 USB, $85 - only 2 left!
- ATI 600 USB clone, $75 - only 2 left!
- ATI 600 USB quasi-clone, $50 - only 1 left!

These works perfectly.

My cards:
- usually come in the original box
- appear flawless, often new and unused
- were thoroughly tested by me
- have all required parts for analog tape capturing
- and either have driver/software disc, or a download will be provided

In terms of the capturing software:
- Use 600 USB with ATI CMC (MPEG, NTSC) or VirtualDub (AVI, NTSC or PAL).
- Use AIW USB with ATI MMC (MPEG, NTSC or PAL) or VirtualDub (AVI, NTSC or PAL).
- Use clone USB with VirtualDub (AVI, NTSC or PAL)

Additionally, this site has drivers and info for use with Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, and 10.

PM if interested.
Will ship worldwide.


Note: I see a lot of INCOMPLETE cards on Amazon, eBay, etc. Beware. If it's lower than my asking price, it's surely an incomplete kit, and thus useless for your capturing needs. The ATI 600 USB is not simply a bare stick! The "accessories" are not actually accessories, but essential to its function!

Tip: If you need a capture card, and TBC, and VCR, get this instead:
For sale: Complete workflow = JVC S-VHS + TBC + capture card!

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I broke up some workflows, so a few more cards are now available.

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Broke up some more workflows again (sold the TBCs), so few more ATI 600s and some VCRs left.

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Is there any ATI TV Wonder HD 600 USB left?
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Is there any ATI TV Wonder HD 600 USB left?
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How much would be the shipping cost for a ATI AIW USB to Portugal?
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How much would be the shipping cost for a ATI AIW USB to Portugal?
Shipping capture cards to most European countries is almost always $29.
Sometimes a few dollars less, rarely more.

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Do you still have the ATI AIW USB?
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What are the main differences between these 2? I'm absolutely interested in one of the two, whichever is best for my needs.
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What are the main differences between these 2? I'm absolutely interested in one of the two, whichever is best for my needs.
AIW = WinXP required, better chipset
600 = WinXP to Win10, excellent chipset (just that the AIW's Theatre is better video quality)

That's essentially it.

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Hi Lordsmurf, new member here. Been browsing and researching info on the site for a few months and finally registered. I'm looking to buy one of the USB devices. Do you think the difference in chipsets will make a noticeable difference in video quality, make a very slight difference, or make a significant difference? I have a XP desktop all setup, but am considering the convenience of being able to use the USB on difference devices. If the chipset will make a significant enough difference I'll just go with the AIW. Thoughts? And thanks in advance!
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Lordsmurf can correct me if I'm wrong.

The ATI USB2.0N used the ATI Theater 200 chip, and was a 12 bit video encoder.

The ATI 600 USB used the Texas Instruments tvp5150 chip, and was a 9 bit video encoder.

Its not the only thing to consider, but its one absolute.

The former is outstanding.

The latter is better than its competition at the time.

Pioneer DVD recorders finally caught up to 10 bit, only in the last model released in the United States (the DVR-640), the last models released only in Canada finally adopted 12 bit encoders (DVR-550, 560). And they only captured to MPEG2, you could not get the uncompressed video capture. With either of these ATI products you can get raw, uncompressed video if you want or need that.

The ATI USB2.0N can only be used in XP, but that is [not] a downside for many reasons when performing video capture. It does require a separate power supply, and they wear out, but the power supply can easily be replaced. Its a simple 6 volt 1.5 amp wall adapter. (Be sure of the polarity of any replacement power supply plug!) PSM11R-060 Positive Center, Barrel Plug, 2.1mm I.D. x 5.5mm O.D. x 9.5mm [must be 6 volt, not 5, not 9, not 12]

If you have to work with Windows 7,8,10 then the ATI 600 USB, is certainly nothing to sneeze at. Its a very good choice.

Another poorly documented feature of the ATI USB2.0N is that it was Apple Mac Compatible. Elgato EyeTV 3.0 supported the ATI USB2.0N as a supported TV Tuner and capture source. I have used it with my 10.6.8 Snow Leopard edition of OSX. I can't say how far up the lineage it supports it, but EyeTV is still around and still has the TVGuide EPG over internet through Rovi (Jan 2019). In fact I just renewed it a few days ago for another year.

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Hi Lordsmurf, new member here. Been browsing and researching info on the site for a few months and finally registered. I'm looking to buy one of the USB devices. Do you think the difference in chipsets will make a noticeable difference in video quality, make a very slight difference, or make a significant difference? I have a XP desktop all setup, but am considering the convenience of being able to use the USB on difference devices. If the chipset will make a significant enough difference I'll just go with the AIW. Thoughts? And thanks in advance!
Q: Is is noticeably different?
A: No, not overly noticeable, especially when capturing lossless in VirtualDub.

It comes down to this: 600 is excellent, AIW is better.

Of course, questions in video are rarely simple. Capture cards involve more than chipsets alone, and workflow, drivers, and OS must be considered when comparing cards. As with VCRs and TBCs, whenever somebody wants to buy something from me, I usually ask a few initial questions, to verify you're getting exactly what you need for your project. Sometimes the 600 will be better, sometimes a clone, sometimes AIW, sometimes something else.

This is a marketplace post, so I don't want to bog it down too much in the technical.

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I have an old laptop that was near top of the line in 2007 that I can load XP onto. Will there be a noticeable quality difference between using the AIW on my old laptop vs the 600 on a Windows 10 machine with a Core i5-2500K CPU?

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I'm curious on your thoughts on this.
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As per above:
Q: Is is noticeably different?
A: No, not overly noticeable, especially when capturing lossless in VirtualDub.

Yes, the AIW USB does work with laptops. But laptops of that era can be squirrelly devices. I have a top-of-the-line HP (bought as refurb) that doesn't always want to cooperate with it, and another mid-grade no-name that has no issues. With capture, desktops are always better. The HP issue may be related to it being the original OS install, and it's had 13 years of install/uninstall/update/upgrade. The no-name was wiped some years ago, never used for anything but video and testing USB capture cards in XP.

AIW will always be better quality than ATI 600 USB, but it's not a night-and-day difference.
- The major AIW difference is color/contrast/etc is slightly more accurate, audio is perfect as-is (and with audio preview if set correctly), and then you have ATI MMC for MPEG capturing.
- ATI 600 USB values can be slightly off system to system (all eMPIA-bridge cards seemingly are), simply tweaked with VirtualDub proc amp. Audio needs a quick registry hack/addition to not be too loud (distort). And of course ATI CMC is craptastic (but workable, though without dropped frames counter), and CMC is NTSC only.

Win10 is a lousy OS for capture, as updates seem to break stuff every 6 months. As has been pointed out, Win10 doen't really get mere "updates" as much as it's actually a new OS pushed out twice per year. So it can majorly break things. If your Win10 OS is always updated, always online, then you may suddenly find yourself unable to capture. Workarounds have generally been found, sometimes after a few months, but it's no guarantee that it will always be the case. With Win10, nothing is guaranteed.

If you're not sure what to get, the ATI 600 USB will be a safer choice. And that's all I have available right now anyway.

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